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Windows 7: Something I do not understand about System Restore?


21 Nov 2009   #1

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Something I do not understand about System Restore?

I have read and commented on so many problems. To me, many times, the best and easiest way is just to do a system restore and if that does not work a system image. A few minutes late,r another poster, sometimes several, post a more complicated, less definate, method of correcting the problem. Why do others here prefer not to use either system restore or system image. In fact I have seen very few, if any, postings suggesting these two methods of problem resolution. Any comments?

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21 Nov 2009   #2

Vista Ult 64 bit Seven Ult RTM x64
 
 

Hi Richard,

Many here are enthusiasts and are interested in finding out what the problem is. Sys. Restore may fix it, but it gives no answers. Same with sfc /scannow. Also to give the poster other options.

Gary
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21 Nov 2009   #3

Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 32 bit/Windows 8.1 64bit
 
 

As far as System Image, the problem there could be that the poster hasn't made one, so that rules out that method of troubleshooting.

System Restore will not help if it's personal documents that have screwed up, I believe the purpose of System Restore is to correct the damage that may be done to the System Files.

You asked for comments and those are mine, whether they are right or wrong is another matter
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21 Nov 2009   #4

Windows 7 Pro & Vista Home Premium
 
 

I'm a mad down loader.

So before I install a program, I create a restore point, play around with the program and if I don't like It, I use system restore to remove.

It';s much better than just uninstalling as many files and registry entries are left behind after the uninstall
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21 Nov 2009   #5

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by reghakr View Post
I'm a mad down loader.

So before I install a program, I create a restore point, play around with the program and if I don't like It, I use system restore to remove.

It';s much better than just uninstalling as many files and registry entries are left behind after the uninstall
I also am a mad downloader but I never use system restore,I use Revo Uninstaller Freeware - Uninstall Software, Remove Programs, Solve uninstall problems instead,it gets all the reg files associated with the app/program you are uninstalling,if you choose advanced,easy to use.
Although I did use system restore a couple of times on my old XP system,but I enjoy the challenge of solving the problems I seem to be creating quite often for myself.
I look at system restore as a last ditch method to solve a problem,if it can be solved that way.It's almost like cheating,I'm kidding of course.
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21 Nov 2009   #6

Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit
 
 

Going to have to rethink my opinion of system restore...I remember in XP, never not exaggerating never had any real success in solving problems with system restore, and I believe I remember that certain types of malware found a home among restore points, I believe that some antimalware programs even recommend turning off system restore before using there product and then turn it back on after a successful cleaning. Just yesterday on one of these forums I suggested a user use system restore and he or she (don't remember) reported back that he was unable to successfully load a restore point. In view of your reporting how you have used it and your success, I think I will do some personal testing and see if my confidence can be restored.
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21 Nov 2009   #7

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@ patwhatsthat I never had XP, but my Brother did. His system restore is completely different from what we have in 7. In XP, you had a choice to roll back to only 5 periods, many times it was not possible to roll back far enough to solve a problem, and there was no image restore, which could be used in conjuction with System Restore in the event of a Virus.
I have used SR about 3 times already, in the course of the few weeks that I have had 7 (Oct 25). First time, my gadgets got hosed, SR came to the rescue. The second time, my task manager just came up with no files, SR came to the rescue. Finally the third time was when I wanted to make a system image on a CD, well it did not work, I had to stop the process at the power source (yea, I pulled the plug). When I rebooted, things were messed up, but not SR and it came to the rescue.
I cannot argue about malware and SR, but I know it is really good to have and in the event of a big problem the big guns come out, system image, that I have in a separate location, away from harm. Take care

Finally, thanks to all that have given me their opinions, so far.
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21 Nov 2009   #8

Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit
 
 

Got to say, you couldn't be more right about imaging. I used to be an Acronis Madman, but now with the system imaging built into Windows 7, I have to say I probably won't be purchasing Acronis again. I took an image from my primary machine on an external usb, sneeker expressed it over to my second Windows 7 machine, mounted the vhd and I could browse and open all my data. Love it. Still not 100% on system restore, like I said will do some testing, maybe hose my secondary machine with WinAntiVirus2009 and see how good system restore is.
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21 Nov 2009   #9

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 (Retail)
 
 

I've had great success using system restore in 7 and have found it to be very reliable. But, of course, it is definitely not a substitute for maintaining a good system of backups which for me includes regularly making both clones as well as compressed image backups, both using Acronis TIH 2010.

But system restore is very quick and simple to use and in many, if not most cases, it will repair a wide variety of system issues assuming one has a restore point available from a time before the problem occurred and assuming the problem is not caused by malware.
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22 Nov 2009   #10

Windows 7 Pro & Vista Home Premium
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Newt View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by reghakr View Post
I'm a mad down loader.

So before I install a program, I create a restore point, play around with the program and if I don't like It, I use system restore to remove.

It';s much better than just uninstalling as many files and registry entries are left behind after the uninstall
I also am a mad downloader but I never use system restore,I use Revo Uninstaller Freeware - Uninstall Software, Remove Programs, Solve uninstall problems instead,it gets all the reg files associated with the app/program you are uninstalling,if you choose advanced,easy to use.
Although I did use system restore a couple of times on my old XP system,but I enjoy the challenge of solving the problems I seem to be creating quite often for myself.
I look at system restore as a last ditch method to solve a problem,if it can be solved that way.It's almost like cheating,I'm kidding of course.
I also use RevoUninstaller also, but there are even a few registry entries and files ]leftover, Sys ten Restore guarantees all these entries are gone,

My favorite program is called regshot. I start it before the install, use the program a lot and if it;s not to my liking I use RevoUinstaller and then run regshot again to make sure all registry entries are gone,m Most shareware leaves something in th e registry so you can't install their program a second time

You can download It here if you don't already have it:
RegShot 1.8.2

I go to Giveaway of the Day - free licensed software daily. Today: WinX DVD Ripper Platinum - WinX DVD Ripper Platinum is the fastest DVD ripping software to convert DVDs to popular video and audio formats, including ... every day to see what they have to offer and I always use Reg shot to capture the registry fillies and export them in case of a system crash or to manually install on another machine.
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