| Windows 7: Can I Reliably Count On W7 Restore Points? |
25 Nov 2009
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#1 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (pre-installed by Dell) Portland, Oregon |
Can I Reliably Count On W7 Restore Points? For the three years I used XP, I desperately needed to use it's restore points to fix a serious problem. In both cases it failed miserably. I would pick a restore point, and XP would start to copy files like everything was OK, and then reboot. Just about the time the desktop started loading, I would get "restore failed", with no explanation. Researching the Internet showed it might be my antivirus and/or firewall interfering. I turned both off and it still failed. Never did figure out why. Because of that, I bought DriveClone as an alternate, and it worked everytime I used it.
Fast forward to new Dell computer with Windows 7. Decided to try a Windows 7 restore point and I'm met with the error message attached. Nooo . . . not again. Disabled Zonealarm and Sunbelt VIPRE through msconfig, booted up and verified they weren't running. Tried the restore point again, and again it failed with the same message.
FINALLY, I tried accessing the restore point from Windows 7's "System Recovery" console (F8). Success! I've tried it a couple more times since with success, as long as I invoke it from F8 during boot up. Call me naive, but I didn't initially realize you could access that from F8. Seems odd to me that the error message doesn't tell you about this option.
Can I really really count on Windows 7's restore points to be more reliable then XP was? Yes, I do complete image backups on occasion, but don't always remember to do them often enough, and they might require going back farther in time then I would prefer. | My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell XPS 9000 (purchased Oct 09) OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (pre-installed by Dell) CPU Intel i7-920 (quad) 2.66GHz Memory 12GB Tri-Channel DDR3 Graphics Card nVidia GeForce GTS 240 Sound Card Soundblaster X-Fi Xtreme Audio Keyboard Dell USB Consumer Multimedia Mouse Dell Studio Optical Hard Drives 1TB 7200RPM SATA |
25 Nov 2009
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#2 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 + x86 + Windows 8 x64 Newport, South Wales, UK |
First a disclaimer  Nothing can ever be 100% reliable
Windows 7 restore points are generally much more reliable than windows XP, and I have heard far fewer failure reports than with XP.
With you particular experience the fact that the restore worked from the recovery console (windows not running) after failing when inside windows would point to some blocking application - sometimes even items disabled in MSconfig will still load drivers or services - this may be happening in your case | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Real World Computing (Me + a little help from Acer) OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 + x86 + Windows 8 x64 CPU AMD Phenom II X6 1035T 2.6 GHz Motherboard Aspire M3400 Memory 4Gb PC10600 DDR3 1333 MHz Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 315 512MB Sound Card OnBoard - Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Philips 32" HDTV, (HDMI) + 26" TV (VGA) Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 @60Hz + 1360 x 768 @60Hz Keyboard Microsoft Wireless 800 or Stock Acer, (depends where I sit) Mouse Microsoft Wireless 800 or Stock Acer, (depends where I sit) PSU Stock (400W) Case Acer M3400 Cooling Stock Hard Drives 500 GB Seagate ST3500418AS SATA II
1 TB Hitachi HDS5C1010CLA382 SATAII
1 TB Samsung Spinpoint F1 HD103SI SATA II (external)
Plus various other (client ) HDDs as needed Internet Speed Temporaray 3G Dongle Antivirus Avast Browser Chrome Other Info USB Capture + Webcam(s) Bamboo Digitizer tablet
Also run Acer AspireOne 530h Netbook, Dual Core Atom + 1GB (Win7 Ult x86) Plus various test systems for new projects |
25 Nov 2009
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#3 | | Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, clean install, upgrade disc CT |

Quote: Originally Posted by terryoregon For the three years I used XP, I desperately needed to use it's restore points to fix a serious problem. In both cases it failed miserably. I would pick a restore point, and XP would start to copy files like everything was OK, and then reboot. Just about the time the desktop started loading, I would get "restore failed", with no explanation. Researching the Internet showed it might be my antivirus and/or firewall interfering. I turned both off and it still failed. Never did figure out why. Because of that, I bought DriveClone as an alternate, and it worked everytime I used it.
Fast forward to new Dell computer with Windows 7. Decided to try a Windows 7 restore point and I'm met with the error message attached. Nooo . . . not again. Disabled Zonealarm and Sunbelt VIPRE through msconfig, booted up and verified they weren't running. Tried the restore point again, and again it failed with the same message.
FINALLY, I tried accessing the restore point from Windows 7's "System Recovery" console (F8). Success! I've tried it a couple more times since with success, as long as I invoke it from F8 during boot up. Call me naive, but I didn't initially realize you could access that from F8. Seems odd to me that the error message doesn't tell you about this option.
Can I really really count on Windows 7's restore points to be more reliable then XP was? Yes, I do complete image backups on occasion, but don't always remember to do them often enough, and they might require going back farther in time then I would prefer. The prior poster is 100% correct, especially with his warning that nothing is 100% reliable. It has been my experience, and that of many posts that I have seen, that when back up fails, it is usually while backing up. When this occurs the operator is made aware of the problem. If all seems to have gone well, the back up has been made correctly. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell XPS 420 OS Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, clean install, upgrade disc CPU Intel Core2 processsor Q8200(2.33Ghz 1333FSB) Quad Core Tech Motherboard Dell Memory 6 gb Graphics Card ATI Radeon 256MB HD3650 Sound Card Intergrated 7.1 Channel Audio Monitor(s) Displays Dell SP2009W 20" Keyboard Dell USB Keyboard Mouse Dell Premium Optical USB Cooling Fan Hard Drives 640 GB Serial ATA Hard drive Internet Speed DSL 2.85 |
26 Nov 2009
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Quote: Originally Posted by terryoregon Can I really really count on Windows 7's restore points to be more reliable then XP was? No. This has been a problem across windows versions and remains a problem. | My System Specs | | OS Win7 ultimate CPU i5 750 running at 4.0Ghz (20x200mhz) Motherboard MSI P55-GD80 Memory 2 x 2GB G.Skill Ripjaws DDR2 2000 Graphics Card 2 x Sapphire 100255U Silent 4670 Monitor(s) Displays 1 x 37" Vizio 120HZ LCD, 3 x 20" Samsung 204B Screen Resolution 1 at 1280x768, 3 at 1280x960 Keyboard Adesson MCK-86 mini Mouse Belkin 5-button USB PSU SilverStone Nightjar ST45NF 450Watt Fanless Case no case, horizontal mount on custom platform Cooling Thermalright IFX-14, 2 x 140mm LED fans at 7v Hard Drives 1TB Seagate ST31000333AS Internet Speed 30mbs down Other Info Bose Companion 2 Series II PC speakers |
27 Nov 2009
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#5 | | Windows 7 ultimate 64 bit / XP Home sp3 Gulf Coast Texas |
Well I use restore points all the time. Like before I install a new piece of software, I'll create a restore point. If I don't like the application I will use CCleaner to remove it, and the previous restore point to restore my system. Never had any problems as of yet. I'm sure you will get conflicting opinions on this topic, but to me as long as you create restore points within a reasonable time frame keeping them current, you'll have a better chance of sucess with them. Fabe | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self Built OS Windows 7 ultimate 64 bit / XP Home sp3 CPU intel Core 2 Duo E8400 3.0ghz Motherboard Asus P5ND bios 1401 Memory 8 gigs 1066 OCZ Fata1ty Graphics Card EVGA GTX 580 Call of Duty Black Ops Edition Sound Card Creative Soundblaster Audigy 2zs Monitor(s) Displays Asus 24in LCD's 2MS X2 Screen Resolution 1920x1080p @60Hz Keyboard Logitech Bluetooth Wireless MX5000 Mouse Logitech Bluetooth Wireless MX1000 PSU OCZ 700W GameXtreme Case NZXT Apollo Cooling Corsair H50 CPU/120mm x3 /60mm x2 /Corsair Dominator Ram Hard Drives WD Caviar 500 Black/ WD Caviar 200 Blue Internet Speed Download 19.83 Upload 0.97 Other Info Logitech Z2300 Speakers/ Bose Noise Cancelling Headphones/Avermedia PCI-e Hybrid TV Bravo/Epson NX415 all in one/ 4 Port Powered USB Hub/ LG 10x Bluray Burner /TSST Corp DVDRW External |
27 Nov 2009
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#6 | | Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit |
I have used system restore probably 50 times since it became available. It failed to complete perhaps twice, so that is probably a 95% success rate. I wouldn't call that high enough to "really really count on", and that figure is probably below a properly used imaging program. Nevertheless, I appreciate it and will continue to use it as needed. It is certainly quicker than imaging and can bypass a lot of troubleshooting.
I have used it only once on Windows 7, successfully. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Ignatz Special; 4 speed manual gearbox; factory air conditioning; one of one OS Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit CPU Intel Sandy Bridge i5-2500, not overclocked Motherboard Gigabyte H67A-UD3H-B3, full ATX Memory 4 GB Crucial DDR3-1333 Graphics Card none; graphics are integrated on CPU Sound Card onboard: Realtek ALC892; external: USB Behringer UF0-202 Monitor(s) Displays NEC 90GX2-BK 19" LCD Screen Resolution 800 x 640 Keyboard Leopold Tenkeyless with Cherry Blue switches, USB Mouse Logitech or Microsoft optical wired; either USB or PS 2 PSU Seasonic SS-560KM, modular Case Antec Solo II Cooling CPU: Scythe Big Shuriken; Case: Scythe Slipstream 800 & 500 Hard Drives System: Intel 320 Series SSD, 80 GB;
Data: Samsung Spinpoint 103SJ, 1 TB;
Backup: WD Caviar Green WD15EADS-00P8B0, 1.5TB Other Info Power consumption of this system, including monitor: 68 watts at idle; 144 watts at full load Can I Reliably Count On W7 Restore Points? problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:18 AM. | |