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Windows 7: Image your system with free Macrium

13 Nov 2013   #1281

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[QUOTE=alan10;2594272]
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by eldinv View Post
You do NOT need to use Windows to find your specific backup file.
Just Launch the Macrium GUI and it will show you the backup files in whatever partition/folder you choose.


They don't appear in the when I browser the location where all my images are located, only the other two images.

I was talking about running the Macrium Reflect Application and selecting files from that.

I do not understand what you meant by "They don't appear in the when I browser the location where all my images are located". When you say browser are you referring to Windows Explorer ?

Via Windows Explorer I can select two different image backup files and whilst holding down the Shift key either :-
Double click; OR
use the right click option "Explore Image".
Either way I am given TWO, NOT ONE, Backup selection menus similar to your screen shot,
excepting that what you show as a single pop-up with two separate backup dates and backup ID's,
is presented to me in a pair of pop-ups, one pop-up for each backup date and ID.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by eldinv View Post
I can't search the log because that Macrium, the one used to create the image, was on my drive previous to my wiping it clean with CopyWipe.

When I double the big image it tells me the image is part of a multi-part image.

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I get exactly the same error message if I change the backup extension from MRIMG to BIN.

I strongly suspect that if I deleted or uninstalled Macrium Reflect, or if I lost it by using CopyWipe,
Then all I would get are error messages - Neither Windows nor the MRIMG backup would have the intelligence to browse or restore a backup file.

To browse or restore a backup file you need Macrium to be installed, or to be running a Macrium Boot Rescue CD.




I think we are getting mixed up, maybe because I used the word browser instead of browse.

When I open the Macrium program and point it to the folders where my images are located, it cannot locate the last backup (image) I created.





I'm added screenshots, to try and help, but I guess its not helping.


When I right click and explore on the bigger image, again I repeat it says:



and if I do the same on the smaller image, it says:




I mentioned I wipe the disk using CopyWipe, since then I have re-imaged to image # 2 and obviously reinstalled Macrium. How else how I run the program to try and explore the files. I couldn't ask Windows to do anything with some random file without re-installing the program. I only mentioned the Wiping procedure, because, I cannot go back to trace the original file names of the two images.

I've been away from this thread for some time now, I don't know if there is some feud war going on about whether Windows backup/imaging is better than Macrium or not, but this is a Macrium thread and we have chosen to use this program.

Even if I cannot resolve the and lose all the data because a mistake I made, I still stand behind Macrium. Its saved my life many times and its effortless to use. This headache I created and if I can't undo do then I guess I'm stuck.


PS.

SIW2

Is their some documentation I can read about this RoboRestore?


Image file path >> Means to locate the images >> Correct?

When I point at the images ... I tried both images ... I get the same errors as above, same as if I was trying to explore the images.

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13 Nov 2013   #1282

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
LF is right. Macrium recovery does not care from where the image comes as long as you can properly point to it. This is not Windows imaging where moving an image would be fatal.
I save my images to an internel HDD and then move them to an external HDD...
That's pretty much what I do. I image my C: drive to a folder on my data drive, then I make a couple of clones of the data drive. I have restored from those clones as well as from the data drive. I don't know if the free version of Reflect has this feature or not (I use the Pro version) but I have mine set up so I can do a restore during the boot up sequence directly from the computer without using a rescue disk or USB stick (although I also have the stick just in case).
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13 Nov 2013   #1283
mjf

Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
This is not Windows imaging where moving an image would be fatal.
This is not true Wolfgang. I do it all the time and reimage successfully. The caveats are:
1) Only make single images and do not use difference images. I would strongly recommend it anyway for Windows imaging.
2) Do not cross partition boundaries.

So in an appropriate folder I have multiple images named WindowsImageBackup_xx_xx_xx. I use x as a date related number. Move the image back to the root as WindowsImageBackup and you are good to go.
With Macrium you can just browse to the folder in a system restore.
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14 Nov 2013   #1284
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Thanks Michael for setting the record straight. I must have been confusing things.
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14 Nov 2013   #1285

Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit SP1 x64
 
 

[QUOTE=mjf;2594420]
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by alan10 View Post
I'll clarify. I am talking about one of (NOT incremental or differential) images - (made by Windows imaging and Macrium free. Macrium free is what the sticky is about).
Singling out my comment as a doozy (doozie your spelling) makes an unnecessary comment. Let me make it simple. There appear to be some concerns with Macrium cloning. If so then this a good place to document them.
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I use a professional version with a licence awarded as a result of my having assisted Macrium with Beta testing of series 5.
So far as I am concerned 99.9% of my experience with creating and restoring Macrium Backups should be relevant to the use of Macrium Free series 5.

Sorry that you got confused, I was NOT criticizing your comment about images.

Confusion was caused by your post no.1273 where you asked the question
"What's the doozie? "
and then in the same post followed this with a comment.

In my single post I both answered your specific question with an Internet Link with a definition of doozie,
and then also as a separate issue I added my thoughts upon your comment.

I was NOT calling your comment a doozie.

The ONLY thing I have ever called a doozie in this topic was in the post #1263,
where I answered your request for information upon potential problems arising from the use of Clone instead of Image,
and I gave you a DOOZIE of an example where clone backups had been religiously created on a Flash Drive by a user who had no idea how to use it when his system failed.
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14 Nov 2013   #1286

Win 7 Pro 64 bit
 
 

I would certainly recommend soon after installing your PC and getting it to a condition you like making an image AND THEN restoring it to check that it restores. I have a couple of images, one with the key software configfured but a while since I installed Windows, the other a recent one. Having tested the earlier one I know if the recent fails, the old one will still image itself OK. I once made a clone as well and tried to restore from that but the restoration failed so I had to use one of the other images. Not sure why that happened, but it put me off making clones (not to mention the huge storage space required for more than one) when I know images do what they need to.

For the same reason I use (free) Macrium rather than Windows backup - a couple of years ago I used the built in Windows 7 backup and when I had to reinstall after a failed Windows update it refused to reinstall from the image. Once bitten forever shy asnd I determined never to use Windows backup again.

Can I throw in two random questions please. If my hard drive fails so I get a new harddrive but a different make or model, would a simple restoration of the Macrium image onto it work or would I have to reinstall Windows (I'm using an SSD for my operating system disk by the way; all my personal files are on a second drive that I backup separately).

And if I upgraded my system by adding say a new motherboard or new graphics card, but kept the same processor and hard drive, will I be able to boot straight up into Windows and will earlier images be restorable? Or do I have to reinstall Windows even though the hard disk is unchanged? Somewhere the Macrium website mentioned something called Redeploy in the paid for version - is it what it's for, and is it worth getting the paid-for version just for that feature (on the grounds that if my machine is ever stolen or a vital piece of hardware fails, if the image made by the free version is useless in that situation, it sort of defeats the point of having imaging software).
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14 Nov 2013   #1287

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Vista x64 / 7 X64
 
 

You would need something to fix restoring to different hardware. See here: Make Windows 7 bootable after motherboard swap

It works perfectly.
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14 Nov 2013   #1288
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Quote:
If my hard drive fails so I get a new harddrive but a different make or model, would a simple restoration of the Macrium image onto it work
A simple restore works. Macrium does not 'register' from which disk the image came.

But new hardware is a problem - especially mobo - because your system would not have the drivers for that.
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14 Nov 2013   #1289

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Diddlededum View Post
I would certainly recommend soon after installing your PC and getting it to a condition you like making an image AND THEN restoring it to check that it restores. I have a couple of images, one with the key software configfured but a while since I installed Windows, the other a recent one. Having tested the earlier one I know if the recent fails, the old one will still image itself OK...
Testing an image is a good idea but there is a better way to go about it when using Macrium Reflect. Create a test partition on an internal drive or use an external drive. Copy some easily checked data, such as a few photos, onto that partition or drive. Image it, saving the image somewhere convenient other than the partition or drive being imaged. After the image is made, delete the data. Use the recovery disk or USB stick you made earlier to recover the partition or drive, using the image you just made. This will assure you that the recovery media is working and that you are doing things correctly.

Rather than testing your latest image as you suggested, when making the image, set it to verify the image after making it. That will ensure the image is valid without risking anything you have on the drive the image came from. Verifying takes almost as long as making the image but, by letting Reflect do it automatically at the end of making the image, you can just set it and forget it until Reflect alerts you the process is complete.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Diddlededum View Post
...I once made a clone as well and tried to restore from that but the restoration failed so I had to use one of the other images. Not sure why that happened, but it put me off making clones (not to mention the huge storage space required for more than one) when I know images do what they need to...
The amount of space required by a clone is a downside but clones do have their upsides and uses. Normally, they are not the best choice for backups, images being the preferred choice. I use clones to backup my data drives so I can just plug one into my computer and use it as is if a data drive completely dies.

I ran into a situation last Sunday when something went wonky with my data drive (my fault, I'll spare you the details) and I tried to clone the data to another drive so I could reformat the wonky drive (I could access my data on the wonky drive but it was unstable and kept dropping out). The clone failed, stating drive errors as the cause. Fortunately, I had a second identical clone drive with data from a backup last Friday night on it and the only data I had added/changed since then was in two folders so I copied those folders from the wonky drive to another internal drive, then reformatted the wonky drive. I then cloned the data from the good clone back to the reformatted drive and copied the two folders to the reformatted drive. I didn't lose a thing.

When cloning, I have Macrium Reflect set to verify the source drive is error free so, if a clone is going to fail due to drive errors, I find out within minutes instead of hours. That saved me a lot of grief last Sunday even though it gave me a bit of a scare.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Diddlededum View Post
...For the same reason I use (free) Macrium rather than Windows backup - a couple of years ago I used the built in Windows 7 backup and when I had to reinstall after a failed Windows update it refused to reinstall from the image. Once bitten forever shy asnd I determined never to use Windows backup again...
I've seen that same complaint many times about Windows backup. I also feel Macrium Reflect is easier to use and is more versatile.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Diddlededum View Post
...Can I throw in two random questions please. If my hard drive fails so I get a new harddrive but a different make or model, would a simple restoration of the Macrium image onto it work or would I have to reinstall Windows (I'm using an SSD for my operating system disk by the way; all my personal files are on a second drive that I backup separately)...
Generally, imaging from one disk to another will work just fine, even if the disks are different make and model. In the case of your SSD, saving an image of the SSD to a HDD then restoring back to the SSD is no problem. Moving DATA and/or an OS from a HDD to a SSD via is a bit trickier since they use different "cylinder" alignment but there is at least on tutorial here on how to do so successfully.

You are wise to keep your data and OS backed up separately.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Diddlededum View Post
...And if I upgraded my system by adding say a new motherboard or new graphics card, but kept the same processor and hard drive, will I be able to boot straight up into Windows and will earlier images be restorable? Or do I have to reinstall Windows even though the hard disk is unchanged? Somewhere the Macrium website mentioned something called Redeploy in the paid for version - is it what it's for, and is it worth getting the paid-for version just for that feature (on the grounds that if my machine is ever stolen or a vital piece of hardware fails, if the image made by the free version is useless in that situation, it sort of defeats the point of having imaging software).
I don't feel that Redeploy is worth paying for by itself but, from what I've read, it does work. There are ways to get a drive from a previous system to work with a new MOBO (I think there is at least one tutorial here on how to do that) but, generally, it's better to do a clean install. A new graphics card will just need a new driver so no worries there. I did get the Pro version because I was already getting the other paid version for other reasons and it wasn't that much more to get the Pro version
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14 Nov 2013   #1290

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
You would need something to fix restoring to different hardware. See here: Make Windows 7 bootable after motherboard swap

It works perfectly.
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
Quote:
If my hard drive fails so I get a new harddrive but a different make or model, would a simple restoration of the Macrium image onto it work
A simple restore works. Macrium does not 'register' from which disk the image came.

But new hardware is a problem - especially mobo - because your system would not have the drivers for that.
The Pro version of Reflect has a feature called Redeploy that will supply the necessary drivers.
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