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14 May 2014   #1641
kado897

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I can't but they are showing with a size. I guess that Macrium will tell us that they are really empty.


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14 May 2014   #1642
BJB

Windows 7 Pro 64 bit
 
 

Mine shows at 3.6GB so it matters whether it contains data or not. Think I'll take a normal image, then delete the page file and hiberfile using a boot disk and then take another image. My money is on them not taking up any meaningful space.
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14 May 2014   #1643
kado897

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14 May 2014   #1644
BJB

Windows 7 Pro 64 bit
 
 

Seems to be so - the test I carried out, firstly with the page file in and secondly with it removed, there was a difference of just 164MB in the image files. Windows wasn't booted in between the tests (to prevent it from recreating the page file) so the only difference between the two was the deletion of the page file.
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14 May 2014   #1645
grant56

Win 7 X64
 
 

very easy, just mount the image in explorer and look at it with a hex editor or any file lister.

As for the answer given at Macrium, it's very confusing to say the least.

I believe them, but what is the data that is showing up when the file is examined? It seems to have the same 'header' from one backup to the next, so its consistent. All kinds of data that sure looks like swapfile to me.

Is it data from other files on the backup or what? I'd have expected to see blanks if the file was truly empty, but maybe there's something about this I don't quite get.
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14 May 2014   #1646
Britton30
Microsoft MVP

Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1
 
 

I would guess the pagfile.sys and hiberfill.sys are placeholders and need since they are system files. Probably like an new but formatted drive has several MB of used space for the file system.
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15 May 2014   #1647
kado897

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A description of what a sparse file is. Sparse file - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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15 May 2014   #1648
Britton30
Microsoft MVP

Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1
 
 

Thanks Keith, it explains why they would appear to have data in them.
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15 May 2014   #1649
grant56

Win 7 X64
 
 

"When reading sparse files, the file system transparently converts metadata representing empty blocks into "real" blocks filled with zero bytes at runtime. The application is unaware of this conversion."

Still doesnt make sense to me. Not seeing zeros . Sorry. Maybe my system is doing something odd here.
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15 May 2014   #1650
Britton30
Microsoft MVP

Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1
 
 

How are you opening pagfile.sys?
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