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02 Jan 2013
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#711 | | Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1 Hertfordshire |
One hour is about right for 85GB if the backup device is USB2 attached. | My System Specs |
| Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Hewlett-Packard/G62-107SA Notebook OS Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1 CPU Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU M 330 @ 2.13GHz Motherboard Hewlett-Packard 1425 Memory 8 GB DDR3 Graphics Card Intel(R) HD Graphics Sound Card Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Builtin Screen Resolution 1366 x 768 x 32 bits (4294967296 colors) @ 60 Hz Mouse Microsoft Bluetooth Notebook Mouse 5000 Hard Drives 250 GB SATA Hard Disk Drive 7200 rpm
2TB Seagate GoFlex USB 2 Drive
1TB Iomega Prestige USB 2 Drive
1.5TB Iomega Prestige USB 2 Drive (Samsung)
1TB Iomega NAS. Internet Speed 60 Mbs download 3 Mbs upload Antivirus Norton 360 Browser Chrome |
02 Jan 2013
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#712 | | Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 Florida in winter, Black Forest/Germany |
Keith, if I understood that right, they were imaging to an internal 5400RPM HDD. But 1 hour may still be right because of all the traffic on the Sata bus and the slow disks. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops OS Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 CPU from 1.6GHz Duo to i7 Monitor(s) Displays 2x HP w2207 Keyboard with trackball - no mices Mouse Trackball mice Hard Drives 5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals Internet Speed DSL 6000 |
02 Jan 2013
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#713 | | Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1 Hertfordshire |
You may be right Wolfgang. I don't have any experience of SATA to SATA internal drives. The USB2 drives I use are limited by the USB transfer rate. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Hewlett-Packard/G62-107SA Notebook OS Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1 CPU Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU M 330 @ 2.13GHz Motherboard Hewlett-Packard 1425 Memory 8 GB DDR3 Graphics Card Intel(R) HD Graphics Sound Card Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Builtin Screen Resolution 1366 x 768 x 32 bits (4294967296 colors) @ 60 Hz Mouse Microsoft Bluetooth Notebook Mouse 5000 Hard Drives 250 GB SATA Hard Disk Drive 7200 rpm
2TB Seagate GoFlex USB 2 Drive
1TB Iomega Prestige USB 2 Drive
1.5TB Iomega Prestige USB 2 Drive (Samsung)
1TB Iomega NAS. Internet Speed 60 Mbs download 3 Mbs upload Antivirus Norton 360 Browser Chrome |
02 Jan 2013
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#714 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 San Francisco |

Quote: Originally Posted by whs Appr. 1 hour for 85GBs sounds a bit slow. But I cannot really tell. All my systems are on SSDs and I image to eSata or USB3 attached fast spinners. That takes less than 10 minutes for appr. 30GB (my data is on another partition).
But the time it takes to make an image should not really matter a lot because you can run it in the background and do other things in the meantime. The recovery process took 2hrs 48mins. That is way too long. 
Quote: Originally Posted by alan10 Not enough information.
Is 85 GB the size of the *.mrimg image backup file ?
How does that size compare with the Acronis *.tib image backup files ?
By "Recovery Process" do you mean you are using the Macrium Reflect WinPE Boot Rescue CD to RESTORE the system drive ?
N.B. Macrium and Acronis use different terminology,
but they have similar capabilities by different names.
The backup :-
can ignore free space with all its deleted files and is faster ;
OR it can include all Free space with all its deleted files and takes much longer. – mrimg file is 58.4GB
– in Acronis I can choose compression ratio
– Yes, I am using the WinPE Rescue ISO burned to CD that whs was nice enough to share
Somehow I'm thinking I did not ignore free space and deleted files, but my mrimg file is only 58.4GB and with the WinPE recovery disc I did not notice any recovery options. 
Quote: Originally Posted by kado897 You may be right Wolfgang. I don't have any experience of SATA to SATA internal drives. The USB2 drives I use are limited by the USB transfer rate. 
Quote: Originally Posted by kado897 One hour is about right for 85GB if the backup device is USB2 attached. Here's the funny thing, it was actually faster when I used a 1TB external USB 3.0 drive for recovery (took ~47mins) and the drive was connected to a USB 2.0 port because the laptop does not have USB 3.0 so transfer speed was limited by bus.
Don't know why SATA to SATA is slower, very weird… | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Less is more OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 CPU Core i7 2600k (4.6GHz) Motherboard ASUS P8Z68 Deluxe (3603) Memory 16GB G.SKILL Ares 1600MHz Graphics Card MSI R6970 Lightning Sound Card Asus Xonar Essence ST (UNi drivers 1.41) Monitor(s) Displays Samsung P2570, Samsung 226BW Screen Resolution 1920*1080, 1680*1050 Keyboard CM Storm Trigger (Brown Switch) Mouse Logitech G400 PSU Seasonic X750 Case Lian-Li PC-P80N Cooling NZXT HAVIK 140 (2x GELID Wing12PL) Hard Drives 256GB OCZ Vector, Hitachi 4TB (7K4000), Hitachi 3TB (7K3000), Hitachi 2TB (5K3000), 2x WD Black 1TB Internet Speed 35Mbps/6Mbps Other Info Klipsch ProMedia 2.1, Sennheiser HD595, Linksys WRT54GL (DD-WRT), Logitech C910 |
02 Jan 2013
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#715 | | Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1 Hertfordshire |
My C drive is around 90GB. It creates an image of around 40GB and takes about 55 minutes to a usb2 attached drive. I would guess that Wolfgang is correct about the cause of your slowness. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Hewlett-Packard/G62-107SA Notebook OS Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1 CPU Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU M 330 @ 2.13GHz Motherboard Hewlett-Packard 1425 Memory 8 GB DDR3 Graphics Card Intel(R) HD Graphics Sound Card Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Builtin Screen Resolution 1366 x 768 x 32 bits (4294967296 colors) @ 60 Hz Mouse Microsoft Bluetooth Notebook Mouse 5000 Hard Drives 250 GB SATA Hard Disk Drive 7200 rpm
2TB Seagate GoFlex USB 2 Drive
1TB Iomega Prestige USB 2 Drive
1.5TB Iomega Prestige USB 2 Drive (Samsung)
1TB Iomega NAS. Internet Speed 60 Mbs download 3 Mbs upload Antivirus Norton 360 Browser Chrome |
02 Jan 2013
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#716 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 San Francisco |

Quote: Originally Posted by kado897 My C drive is around 90GB. It creates an image of around 40GB and takes about 55 minutes to a usb2 attached drive. I would guess that Wolfgang is correct about the cause of your slowness. That's why I decided to copy the mrimg to my internal SATA drive, hoping the recovery time will be faster but it ended up taking almost 3hrs. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Less is more OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 CPU Core i7 2600k (4.6GHz) Motherboard ASUS P8Z68 Deluxe (3603) Memory 16GB G.SKILL Ares 1600MHz Graphics Card MSI R6970 Lightning Sound Card Asus Xonar Essence ST (UNi drivers 1.41) Monitor(s) Displays Samsung P2570, Samsung 226BW Screen Resolution 1920*1080, 1680*1050 Keyboard CM Storm Trigger (Brown Switch) Mouse Logitech G400 PSU Seasonic X750 Case Lian-Li PC-P80N Cooling NZXT HAVIK 140 (2x GELID Wing12PL) Hard Drives 256GB OCZ Vector, Hitachi 4TB (7K4000), Hitachi 3TB (7K3000), Hitachi 2TB (5K3000), 2x WD Black 1TB Internet Speed 35Mbps/6Mbps Other Info Klipsch ProMedia 2.1, Sennheiser HD595, Linksys WRT54GL (DD-WRT), Logitech C910 |
02 Jan 2013
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#717 | | Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 Florida in winter, Black Forest/Germany |
Quote: The recovery process took 2hrs 48mins. That is way too long.
That is definitely too long. But if I read that right, that was not on the system you specified in your user profile. The slowest recovery I ever had on a modest laptop was about 30 minutes. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops OS Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 CPU from 1.6GHz Duo to i7 Monitor(s) Displays 2x HP w2207 Keyboard with trackball - no mices Mouse Trackball mice Hard Drives 5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals Internet Speed DSL 6000 |
02 Jan 2013
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#718 | | Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1 Hertfordshire |
Hmm. I wonder if there are problems with the disks. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Hewlett-Packard/G62-107SA Notebook OS Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1 CPU Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU M 330 @ 2.13GHz Motherboard Hewlett-Packard 1425 Memory 8 GB DDR3 Graphics Card Intel(R) HD Graphics Sound Card Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Builtin Screen Resolution 1366 x 768 x 32 bits (4294967296 colors) @ 60 Hz Mouse Microsoft Bluetooth Notebook Mouse 5000 Hard Drives 250 GB SATA Hard Disk Drive 7200 rpm
2TB Seagate GoFlex USB 2 Drive
1TB Iomega Prestige USB 2 Drive
1.5TB Iomega Prestige USB 2 Drive (Samsung)
1TB Iomega NAS. Internet Speed 60 Mbs download 3 Mbs upload Antivirus Norton 360 Browser Chrome |
02 Jan 2013
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#719 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit SP1 x64 |

Quote: Originally Posted by 0pTicaL Somehow I'm thinking I did not ignore free space and deleted files, but my mrimg file is only 58.4GB and with the WinPE recovery disc I did not notice any recovery options.
Here's the funny thing, it was actually faster when I used a 1TB external USB 3.0 drive for recovery (took ~47mins) and the drive was connected to a USB 2.0 port because the laptop does not have USB 3.0 so transfer speed was limited by bus.
Don't know why SATA to SATA is slower, very weird… The free space and compression options are determined when you create the backup,
not when you restore.
The WinPE Recovery Disc however can create backups and may well allow options for the creation.
SATA to SATA is very fast for me.
My 55 GB SSD has 11.4 GB in use
Macrium produced 6.13 GB *.mrimg image backup in 244 Seconds on my secondary internal HDD
and even more amazing
it takes only 58 seconds to compare that 6.13 GB plus another 0.5 GB of a two subsequent differential files
with the 11.4 GB in the current SSD,
and produce a third differential of only 164 MB.
I find it suspicious that SATA to USB2 is faster than SATA to SATA.
N.B. Some USB3 drives claim to gracefully fall back to USB2 speed when on a USB2 port.
Some perhaps are less graceful and fall back to USB1.
I suggest to test SATA to SATA you copy a very large file from your system HDD to the backup HDD,
and measure with a stop watch - or a sundial
P.S.
It took about 3 minutes for the WinPE Rescue to read the 6.13 + 0.5 + 0.164 GB and restore my SSD.
Last edited by alan10; 02 Jan 2013 at 03:31 PM..
Reason: Added P.S. and fixed Typo
| My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number ASUSTeK Computer INC. M3A32-MVP DELUXE (CPU 1) OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit SP1 x64 CPU AMD Phenom X4 9500 Motherboard ASUSTeK M3A32-MVP Deluxe (CPU 1) Memory 8 GB Graphics Card ATI Radeon HD 4600 Series Sound Card AMD High Definition Audio Device Monitor(s) Displays SyncMaster (1680x1050@60Hz) Hard Drives 59GB OCZ-VERTEX2 ATA Device
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977GB SAMSUNG HD103SJ ATA Device
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625GB WDC WD6401AALS-00L3B2 ATA Device |
02 Jan 2013
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#720 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 San Francisco |

Quote: Originally Posted by whs That is definitely too long. But if I read that right, that was not on the system you specified in your user profile. The slowest recovery I ever had on a modest laptop was about 30 minutes. Would it have anything to do with me deleting the volume beforehand? I wanted to test if the program works on a empty volume so I popped the Windows 7 install disc and deleted the volume before I performed a recovery.
Something I didn't mention, when I booted off the WinPE disc it asks me to load drivers, are there any drivers that need to be loaded before the recovery process? 
Quote: Originally Posted by kado897 Hmm. I wonder if there are problems with the disks. Could be a possibility.
I just imaged c: again to my secondary internal HDD and it took 22mins. Approx ~85GB and the resulting mrimg is 58.3GB. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Less is more OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 CPU Core i7 2600k (4.6GHz) Motherboard ASUS P8Z68 Deluxe (3603) Memory 16GB G.SKILL Ares 1600MHz Graphics Card MSI R6970 Lightning Sound Card Asus Xonar Essence ST (UNi drivers 1.41) Monitor(s) Displays Samsung P2570, Samsung 226BW Screen Resolution 1920*1080, 1680*1050 Keyboard CM Storm Trigger (Brown Switch) Mouse Logitech G400 PSU Seasonic X750 Case Lian-Li PC-P80N Cooling NZXT HAVIK 140 (2x GELID Wing12PL) Hard Drives 256GB OCZ Vector, Hitachi 4TB (7K4000), Hitachi 3TB (7K3000), Hitachi 2TB (5K3000), 2x WD Black 1TB Internet Speed 35Mbps/6Mbps Other Info Klipsch ProMedia 2.1, Sennheiser HD595, Linksys WRT54GL (DD-WRT), Logitech C910 Image your system with free Macrium problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:46 AM. | |