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Windows 7: Image your system with free Macrium

14 Apr 2011   #81
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Yeah Anne, PW must be drunk. No problem with the Dutch. I am German and spent a lot of time in the Netherlands plus I lived a couple of years in Belgium where I had a Flamish girlfriend - although we spoke French most of the time.

But back to your problem. What exactly do you want to accomplish. Maybe we can do it differently. Increasing the size of the recovery partition is not necessary - why would you want to do that anyhow?


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14 Apr 2011   #82

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Hi whs,

This is good explanation, PW needs from time to time some alcohol in his blood .



Good news that it is not necessary to increase the size of the recovery partition. I am thinking to divide this 1T HD into 3 partitions for different types of data i.e. music, doc's etc... The question: is it safer in case of crash which can happen to one of the partition that others will not be effected?

Many thanks for your patient (dank je wel).

Regards,

Anne
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14 Apr 2011   #83
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Yes it is better to have a data partition so that you do not lose your data in case of a crash. But I would only make one extra partition and then either move your current user folders there or create new folders and include them into the libraries.

The easiest is to use Disk Management for the task. You may not be able to shrink your C as much as you would like, but have a look what it yields. Here is a video tutorial of mine on how to do that: Data Partition

Nowadays I actually prefer to make new folders (rather than maving the existing folders) in the new partition and move my data there. Then you right click on those new folders and Include them into the respective library. The advantage is that you completely seperate your stuff from the system stuff. If you look into your current Documents, you may notice that there are all kinds of folders that you did not create but the system did.

Let me know which approach you want to take and I give you more details. If you choose to move the current folders, there is one trap that many fall into - they move the folders to the new partition instead of to predefined folders in the new partition. That creates a mess. So let's discuss before you go ahead.
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15 Apr 2011   #84

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
Yes it is better to have a data partition so that you do not lose your data in case of a crash. But I would only make one extra partition and then either move your current user folders there or create new folders and include them into the libraries.

The easiest is to use Disk Management for the task. You may not be able to shrink your C as much as you would like, but have a look what it yields. Here is a video tutorial of mine on how to do that: Data Partition

Nowadays I actually prefer to make new folders (rather than maving the existing folders) in the new partition and move my data there. Then you right click on those new folders and Include them into the respective library. The advantage is that you completely seperate your stuff from the system stuff. If you look into your current Documents, you may notice that there are all kinds of folders that you did not create but the system did.

Let me know which approach you want to take and I give you more details. If you choose to move the current folders, there is one trap that many fall into - they move the folders to the new partition instead of to predefined folders in the new partition. That creates a mess. So let's discuss before you go ahead.

Hi whs,

Thank you for your support. I have had contact with the helpdesk of PW. They told me that the problem with decreasing the space of the C: drive is because the computer is using BitLocker (which I got it standard installed on it when I bought it). According to PW this will encrypt the partition and it will not be supported.

Today, I have had a contact with the helpdesk of the computer shop. They explain me how to dismantle the BitLocker and the RAID1 which I am going to do in the coming 3 weeks and do a daily image to the second disk. Sure I will let you know the further development.

Many thanks again for your support.

Best regards,

Anne
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15 Apr 2011   #85
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Thanks for updating us. You are right, that bitlocker can play an act on many programs. And the Raid1 is pretty useless and counterproductive in my book.. See my logo on the bottom of my post - I always warn against fancy setups - nothing but trouble.

i hope you get it sorted out and if you need further assistance, let us know.
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13 May 2011   #86

Windows 7 64bit
 
 

Anyone who purchased Macrium Reflect and tried out incremental images? Would be very nice if this would work, since I gave up with Windows Backup which does always copy the whole data instead of new data.
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13 May 2011   #87
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Incremetals is in the paid Macrium specifications. Although I have never used it, I assume it works. I am dead against incrementals because they are difficult to manage and if you loose one in the chain you loose the whole chain.

At todays prices of large disks, it should not be a problem to store a good selection of full images which are easy to weed out when required. And the runtime to take the image should not be a problem either because that can run in the background.

If, however, you want delta images for any reason, you should look at Paragon. They work with differentials which are a lot safer than incrementals.
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13 May 2011   #88

Windows 7 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
Incremetals is in the paid Macrium specifications. Although I have never used it, I assume it works. I am dead against incrementals because they are difficult to manage and if you loose one in the chain you loose the whole chain.

At todays prices of large disks, it should not be a problem to store a good selection of full images which are easy to weed out when required. And the runtime to take the image should not be a problem either because that can run in the background.

If, however, you want delta images for any reason, you should look at Paragon. They work with differentials which are a lot safer than incrementals.
The reason why I want incremental/differential backups is because of HDD failure like bad sectors. Imagine you have an HDD with 300GB of data on it and an external 1TB. Then you can store up to 3 full images on the external one. Let's say you do this, and when the HDD is full you delete the oldest image. But between first and second image a sector of your main HDD broke on which some sensible files were, then you got the problem that you can't get those files back. Because you may notice that only after a long time that you lost that files and then you can't get it back because the oldest image is younger than the file when it still existed.

I already lost unique data (which no one else has) because it just broke and tried to get it back from backups but i wasn't able to do this, since it was already broken long time ago and i didn't notice.

All I want to do is to keep the very very old backup as long as possible, plus all the versions of modified files. Also I want to never re-backup already backed up data, because maybe a sector broke at one day, then I can't backup that file anymore and lost it, just when such a scenario happens like I described earlier.

Is that Paragon program which allows differential images free?
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13 May 2011   #89
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

1. an image of 300GB of data will be about 160GBs (because of image compression) - with Macrium.

2. I do not know what kind of disk you have, I never had a sector failure on any of my 12 external disk that are of 7 different makes. And even then you can repair it with chkdsk x: /f /r

3. I always image to at least 2 disks (alternating), sometimes 3 when I am in a hurry and use an internal disk.That provides the safety you are looking for.

4. As I said, if you insist on deltas, use Paragon. http://www.paragon-software.com/home/br-free/

5. If you have 300GB to image, most of it must be data. I would seperate that data into a seperate data partition and rather than imaging that I would use a sync program - there are many on the web. I use Allway sync.
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13 May 2011   #90

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Vista x64 / 7 X64
 
 

I would suggest Differentials - much safer.

Quote:
Is that Paragon program which allows differential images free?
Yes.

Free Backup Software: Paragon Backup & Recovery (Advanced) Free Edition - Overview

It comes with a linux based boot disc ( like all free apps. ). Again like all free apps. linux based recovery discs - first thing to do is check it works for your your system - boot it up and make sure it sees all your drives.

Note - differentials are not any quicker than a full image - because obviously it needs to compare everything before deciding what needs to be imaged - they are smaller, of course.


An incremental backup will include changes since the last incremental - you therefore need all of them plus the original full image. ( Original full is called parent or base image )

Differentials back up any changes since the first full image - you therefore only need one of them ( whichever date you want to ga back to ) plus the plus the original full image.
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