| Windows 7: Backup Question ? |
26 Jan 2010
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Backup Question ? Hi,
Son has a new desktop HP PC about a month old now with a 750 GB HD
His wife has a new Laptop (brand uncertain) with a 300 GB HD.
Thought I would get them an external HD for backups.
Question: Is the Windows 7 backup program smart enough to do its thing for two different PC's, and keep the backups "separate" ?
Any caveats or things to know about this ?
BTW: For a new PC with a 750 GB HD, doing a backup for the first time where I guess an "Image" is also created, how much space might be used, in full ?
Was wondering if it makes any sense to have them do it now on DVD's prior to my getting them the HD ?
Thanks, Bob | My System Specs |
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26 Jan 2010
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#2 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit Oklahoma |
Hi Robert11
I'm not positive about your first question, but i would think if you partitioned the external drive and named each partition, John E: and Sally F: it would work cause the drive itself just knows usb.
For your second question the image will be as big as your os plus the programs you have installed, like mine with a full backup is 19 gigs. Hope this helps | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell XPS 730 OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit CPU Intel Core 2 quad Extreme Q9770 @ 3.2 GHz Memory 4x2 GB Muskin 1600 MHz ram Graphics Card NVidia GTX 250 Sound Card Soundblaster X-Fi Fatality Champion Monitor(s) Displays 2 Dell 2007WFP Ultrascans Screen Resolution 3360 x 1050 Keyboard MS Natrual Keyboard Pro Mouse Logitech Wireless Trackball PSU 1000 Watt Cooling air Hard Drives WD Black 1TB sata, 2-WD Black 500 sata, 2-Seagate 500 Go external Internet Speed DSL Elite |
26 Jan 2010
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From OP: Hi,
Not all that sharp with this "stuff".
Exactly how would one partition this drive ?
Is there a program to use to do it that one has to obtain, or is there a partitioning application internal to Windows 7, or... ?
Thanks for help; appreciate it.
BTW: what would happen if I don't partition the HD, and just do a backup from each PC ? Would the second backup likely just overwrite the first backup, or might they be saved under two names ?
Regards,
Bob | My System Specs | | |
26 Jan 2010
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#4 | | Windows 7 Professional x64 The Wild West |
The answer to your question is YES one drive will do images for multiple PCs.
I create images for 3 PCs on one 250GB hard drive. It keeps them separate.
Also, it DOES compress them i can't remember the ratio, but it compresses them quite a bit. It all depends on how much data they have. It seems to me it compresses the data by about 1/2 but I can't say for sure. If you want to read through the "create an image" tutorial. I put a post in there one time that stated I backed up a 90GB drive and it came to only about 60GB....so that gives you an idea.
You should be fine with one 500GB to 1TB back up drive. (to be safe) Good luck!
Here is that post 130GB to 59.5GB compression Backup Complete Computer - Create an Image Backup
You may want to read this for yourself. These were on beta builds, the compression has been improved so it's better than 1/2....it depends on the type of files, but mine were mostly music and video. Backup Complete Computer - Create an Image Backup | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Keeps changing - (Custom) OS Windows 7 Professional x64 CPU Intel Core i7 860 Motherboard Gigabyte GA-P55-UD4P Memory 4GB DDR3 Mushkin 1600Mhz @ 7-8-7-20 Graphics Card MSI GTS250 1GB DDR3 Twin Frozr Sound Card Onboard realtek Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SyncMaster 24" P2450 + Samsung 20" 2033 Screen Resolution 1920 X 1080 and 1600 X 900 (#2 system 1440 X 900) Keyboard Gigabyte USB keyboard Mouse Microsoft wireless laser mouse 5000 PSU Corsair 750 HX Modular Case Lancool PC-K62 Cooling Cooler Master TX3 CPU cooler and 4-140mm and 1-120mm case Hard Drives Patriot Inferno 120GB SSD + 3 WD Blue 640GB drives Internet Speed 7 Mb down 1.5 up Other Info System #2: AMD Phenom II X6 1055T (Freezer 7 Pro cooler) - Gigabyte 880GMA-UD2H - WD 500GB Black - 9500GT (1GB) 500W OCZ modular PSU - Antec 200 case. System #3 (LapTop) Core 2 Duo T6670 - 320GB 7200RPM HD - 4GB DDR3 RAM. |
27 Jan 2010
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#5 | | Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit |
Robert:
You have to decide what you mean by "backup".
You may mean personal data of each person--Word documents, Excel files, pictures, music files, video clips, etc.
Or you may mean all of that plus each person's individual Windows installation.
If you mean the former, the standard method would NOT involve an image.
If you mean the latter, the standard method WOULD involve an image.
Some people choose to backup only data because a Windows installation can always be done manually and because images are not foolproof. Data, on the other hand, may be irreplaceable and so a backup would be very important.
If you do in fact make an image containing EVERYTHING, including data, I would also advise you to make a separate non-image backup of the data alone, because you might find yourself unable to get at the image for whatever reason if you have a major failure. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Ignatz Special; 4 speed manual gearbox; factory air conditioning; one of one OS Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit CPU Intel Sandy Bridge i5-2500, not overclocked Motherboard Gigabyte H67A-UD3H-B3, full ATX Memory 4 GB Crucial DDR3-1333 Graphics Card none; graphics are integrated on CPU Sound Card onboard: Realtek ALC892; external: USB Behringer UF0-202 Monitor(s) Displays NEC 90GX2-BK 19" LCD Screen Resolution 800 x 640 Keyboard Leopold Tenkeyless with Cherry Blue switches, USB Mouse Logitech or Microsoft optical wired; either USB or PS 2 PSU Seasonic SS-560KM, modular Case Antec Solo II Cooling CPU: Scythe Big Shuriken; Case: Scythe Slipstream 800 & 500 Hard Drives System: Intel 320 Series SSD, 80 GB;
Data: Samsung Spinpoint 103SJ, 1 TB;
Backup: WD Caviar Green WD15EADS-00P8B0, 1.5TB Other Info Power consumption of this system, including monitor: 68 watts at idle; 144 watts at full load |
27 Jan 2010
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#6 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 + x86 + Windows 8 x64 Newport, South Wales, UK |
One other option to consider is if the technical level of the proposed user is at a level where words such as "image", "partitioning" and such are a kind of black art, or they just want things to be totally simple so that the actual backup is actually done.
There are available, complete one touch backup solutions where all the user needs to do is press a button on the drive and the software on the drive then performs and manages the backups. (I see people all the time that have all the hardware and software for backup, but do not do anything because it's too complicated  ).
There is normally a premium in initial cost to be paid for this simplicity but if it stops you losing something irreplaceable then it's a price worth paying | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Real World Computing (Me + a little help from Acer) OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 + x86 + Windows 8 x64 CPU AMD Phenom II X6 1035T 2.6 GHz Motherboard Aspire M3400 Memory 4Gb PC10600 DDR3 1333 MHz Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 315 512MB Sound Card OnBoard - Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Philips 32" HDTV, (HDMI) + 26" TV (VGA) Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 @60Hz + 1360 x 768 @60Hz Keyboard Microsoft Wireless 800 or Stock Acer, (depends where I sit) Mouse Microsoft Wireless 800 or Stock Acer, (depends where I sit) PSU Stock (400W) Case Acer M3400 Cooling Stock Hard Drives 500 GB Seagate ST3500418AS SATA II
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27 Jan 2010
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#8 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit Oklahoma |

Quote: Originally Posted by Barman58 One other option to consider is if the technical level of the proposed user is at a level where words such as "image", "partitioning" and such are a kind of black art, or they just want things to be totally simple so that the actual backup is actually done.
There are available, complete one touch backup solutions where all the user needs to do is press a button on the drive and the software on the drive then performs and manages the backups. (I see people all the time that have all the hardware and software for backup, but do not do anything because it's too complicated  ).
There is normally a premium in initial cost to be paid for this simplicity but if it stops you losing something irreplaceable then it's a price worth paying +1 Barman58
I think as he seems to be a novice you really got it right as usual. Very good advice. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell XPS 730 OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit CPU Intel Core 2 quad Extreme Q9770 @ 3.2 GHz Memory 4x2 GB Muskin 1600 MHz ram Graphics Card NVidia GTX 250 Sound Card Soundblaster X-Fi Fatality Champion Monitor(s) Displays 2 Dell 2007WFP Ultrascans Screen Resolution 3360 x 1050 Keyboard MS Natrual Keyboard Pro Mouse Logitech Wireless Trackball PSU 1000 Watt Cooling air Hard Drives WD Black 1TB sata, 2-WD Black 500 sata, 2-Seagate 500 Go external Internet Speed DSL Elite Backup Question ? problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:34 PM. | |