windows live mail 2011 with Windows Live Messenger 2009

I also have tried for long to keep MSN 2009 while upgrading to Mail 2011 but it is impossible.

I really hate Microsoft. Really. Other than Windows 7 everything else they do is awful. And they are always using horrible strategies to cheat or force the users to do what they want and fill you with huge bloatware and their own rules.

MSN 2011 is absolutely HORRIBLE and you may find hundreds of blogs and posts and reviews saying the same. Many Facebook groups complaining too.

So I would keep both MSN & Mail 2009 but Mail 2009 doesnt work well anymore either.

How can it be possible that they are denying us the possibility to decide what version we want to use? They are forcing us to use the social networks and pushing us to reveal personal information without us even knowing.

This is terrible, really. After Windows 7 I thought Microsoft had learnt the lesson, but no, it's back to the old policy of being hated by everyone.

By now I am keeping MSN 2009 and simply have uninstalled Mail. I am using Opera for Mail only.

kmint said:

...I also have tried for long to keep MSN 2009 while upgrading to Mail 2011 but it is impossible....

Not sure what you mean by "MSN". I'm still using WLE2009; the latest version is here:
Web Version Installer – English Language Version
http://g.live.com/1rewlive3/en/wlsetup-web.exe

It's not only possible to keep it but it is relatively easy...just hide the WLE2011 update(s) in Windows Update. But it is difficult/impossible to mix and match components from the 2011 suite with the 2009 suite. And those of us who are using 2009/2010 will probably switch to 2011 sometime next year.

roncerr said:

kmint said:

...I also have tried for long to keep MSN 2009 while upgrading to Mail 2011 but it is impossible....

Not sure what you mean by "MSN". I'm still using WLE2009; the latest version is here:
Web Version Installer – English Language Version
http://g.live.com/1rewlive3/en/wlsetup-web.exe

It's not only possible to keep it but it is relatively easy...just hide the WLE2011 update(s) in Windows Update. But it is difficult/impossible to mix and match components from the 2011 suite with the 2009 suite. And those of us who are using 2009/2010 will probably switch to 2011 sometime next year.

MSN is the old and still popular name for Windows Live Messenger. Most people say just "the MSN".

No it doesn't work like that. My Windows Updates are totally disabled (service disabled) and still combing MSN 2009 with WLMail 2011 is impossible.

kmint said:

...still combing MSN 2009 with WLMail 2011 is impossible.

Correct. That's what I said. But you can easily stay with the 2009 suite as a whole. Just don't update to 2011. Or uninstall the 2011 suite and use the above link to install the pre-2011 version.

I have the same problem...i have to say messenger 2011 is really fail, at least this moment. i like mail 2011, why can't use mail 2011 and messenger 2009 at the same time. it's plain robbery!

seraphimy said:

I have the same problem...i have to say messenger 2011 is really fail, at least this moment. i like mail 2011, why can't use mail 2011 and messenger 2009 at the same time. it's plain robbery!

One more absurd thing. I tried to fix this by searching and dowloading the 2009 and 2011 standalone offline installers for WL Essentials. They are arou nd 130 MB big that you download as one single file.

So, theoretically, you should be able to install them without connecting to the internet, so they would be fast to install and so on.

Absurd enough they take the same awful long time to install. Just for the MSN takes ages. And, of course, you still can't install MSN 2009 and Mail 2011.

I gave up. I am on MSN 2009 and using Opera Mail.

I found something which almost worked but didnt..By going to the cache folder i was able to find just the live messenger 2009 installer.So i went and installed windows live mail 2011 and then install the 2009 messenger from the cache folder and i was able to have windows live messenger 2009 along with windows live mail 2011..The only thing is when i try to login to windows live messenger 2009, it wont login, none of my account will login..Sneaky microsoft they are!

here is the link in case anybody wants to try it so, you know what i mean - Retrieve Windows Live Messenger 2009 Standalone Individual Setup Installer (MSI) from Web Download » My Digital Life

gbp007 said:

I found something which almost worked but didnt..By going to the cache folder i was able to find just the live messenger 2009 installer.So i went and installed windows live mail 2011 and then install the 2009 messenger from the cache folder and i was able to have windows live messenger 2009 along with windows live mail 2011..The only thing is when i try to login to windows live messenger 2009, it wont login, none of my account will login..Sneaky microsoft they are!

here is the link in case anybody wants to try it so, you know what i mean - Retrieve Windows Live Messenger 2009 Standalone Individual Setup Installer (MSI) from Web Download » My Digital Life

Thanks for this. By now I give up and stay with Opera Mail, but maybe one day I try it.

Brink said:

Hmm, looks like a catch 22.

Two topics on the same subject. I've had to remove several WLE 2011 from client's computers and replace the suite with WLE 2009. Just follow what I have recommended in this thread.

Revert to Windows Live Essentials 2009!

Niceget said:

Revert to Windows Live Essentials 2009!

Don't forget to backup email and "not-signed-in contacts" since they are included in the "Live" files that the recommendation says to delete.