Firefox 5.0 Beta

JerometheGiraff said:

FireFox 4 is garbage. I downgraded to 3.5, because alot of my extensions were not compatible after weeks of using version 4, a quarter of my extensions were still not compatible. The Themes produced for FireFox 4 were horrible, themes that were updated to version 4 had graphic blotches arrgh.

So to clarify - since the extensions and themes you use have not been updated, or updated poorly, this makes Firefox 4 itself garbage?

Interesting interpretation of where to apply blame.

g1lly any sign of process isolation or sandbox in 6.0 builds? I would like to think they at least working on those considering IE has had both for a while now and chrome has them as well.

G1LLY said:

chrysalis said:

g1lly any sign of process isolation or sandbox in 6.0 builds? I would like to think they at least working on those considering IE has had both for a while now and chrome has them as well.

They have IPC / Sandboxing on their roadmap but I don't think it's been implemented yet in the these early 6.0 builds.

https://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox/Roa...Customizations

thanks for the info.

I have been reading what in my view is scary stuff about the future of firefox. Mozilla must be really shaken by chrome because they changing their dev policy to copy chrome as well. Things I have read included every 6 weeks will be a major release update and will scrap security updates instead merging them with feature updates. So if I want security updates but not feature updates I will be screwed.

G1LLY said:

This isn't the official Firefox 5 Beta 1. It's been pulled direct from the Mozilla FTP servers and is dated 28 April, this is most likely a candidate build, just giving people a heads up, but having said that it's pretty stable, been running this build for a couple of days, no problems :)

Mozilla haven't officially announced it yet - Firefox Future Releases

Actually Nightly builds are 6.01a2 and more stable. They also address several pressing issues.

Now regarding downgrading to 3.6.17, very soon Moz is going to start pushing 4.0 downstream so it is a waste of time (in my opinion) since shortly you will be urged to update back to 4.0

There are ways to make all extensions work, it is 25% faster, and more stable.

I just installed FF 5 Beta 1, looks good so far, but it would be nice if extensions and plugins would be functional :)

zigzag3143 said:

G1LLY said:

This isn't the official Firefox 5 Beta 1. It's been pulled direct from the Mozilla FTP servers and is dated 28 April, this is most likely a candidate build, just giving people a heads up, but having said that it's pretty stable, been running this build for a couple of days, no problems :)

Mozilla haven't officially announced it yet - Firefox Future Releases

Actually Nightly builds are 6.01a2 and more stable. They also address several pressing issues.

Now regarding downgrading to 3.6.17, very soon Moz is going to start pushing 4.0 downstream so it is a waste of time (in my opinion) since shortly you will be urged to update back to 4.0

There are ways to make all extensions work, it is 25% faster, and more stable.

yep and its already happened, I declined an auto update to 4.0.1 from 3.6, on my testing 4.0.1 has very bad memory leaks using over 2 gig ram with just 5 tabs open, my main install uses over 200 tabs which I dread to think the ram usage on 4.0.1.

smarteyeball said:

JerometheGiraff said:

FireFox 4 is garbage. I downgraded to 3.5, because alot of my extensions were not compatible after weeks of using version 4, a quarter of my extensions were still not compatible. The Themes produced for FireFox 4 were horrible, themes that were updated to version 4 had graphic blotches arrgh.

So to clarify - since the extensions and themes you use have not been updated, or updated poorly, this makes Firefox 4 itself garbage?

Interesting interpretation of where to apply blame.

EchoX860 said:

Wait, you're saying FF4 is garbage because your addons weren't compatible yet? That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Blame your extension creators.

Sort of what I was thinking. That's like blaming Microsoft for your 10 year old printer (or any other piece of hardware) not working with Windows 7 because the manufacturer didn't put out any drivers for it.

As Echo said don't blame Mozilla/Firefox, get on the extension writers case. That or look for extensions that are similar and that are getting updated. Can't blame Mozilla for your favorite extension not getting updated for who knows how long.

You can also do this,

Extensions.checkCompatibility - MozillaZine Knowledge Base

and then test those that are supposed to be incompatible. Probably find that most if not all will work just fine. Or you can go through all of your "incompatible" extensions and change the maxVersion number in all the install.rdf files,

https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Ext...ate_RDF_Format

which is all that most of the extension writers do anyway if there are no problems with their extensions in a new version of Firefox.