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Windows 7: Firefox 5.0 Beta


05 May 2011   #1

Windows 7 Home Premium x64
 
 
Firefox 5.0 Beta

Download Firefox 5.0 Beta 1 - FileHippo.com

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05 May 2011   #2

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

This isn't the official Firefox 5 Beta 1. It's been pulled direct from the Mozilla FTP servers and is dated 28 April, this is most likely a candidate build, just giving people a heads up, but having said that it's pretty stable, been running this build for a couple of days, no problems

Mozilla haven't officially announced it yet - Firefox Future Releases
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06 May 2011   #3

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

thank,but i will wait to full
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06 May 2011   #4

windows 7 ultimate x64
 
 

I think its obvious where firefox is behind now.

I tried this url.
FishIE Tank

I tested in IE8, IE9, FF4 and FF3.6

The FF3.6 had tons of tabs open, IE9 had about 10 open. FF4 none.

IE9 was the fastest and on weaker spec spare machine, FF4 on same machine bit slower about 25% slower FPS. IE9 unaffected if downloading in background etc. if do things like adjust options on FF4 it slows down.
IE8 page wouldnt load is blank.
FF3.6 aweful, tested on this machine is core i5 750, very low FPS up and down not stable FPS. With just 1 fish it could get 60FPS but struggled whenever I even moved the mouse around the gui without clicking on anything.

So whats clear is that firefox needs to sort out their process isolation stuff, IE loads multiple processes for multiple tabs and it gives it 2 clear advantages. Crash protection and better performance as on a multi core machine a bad tab or GUI issue wont affect another tab as different processes using different cpu cores.

Also firefox has no sandbox which to me is baffling, as the weak point on a typical desktop machine is the browser. I will confess any viruses that have came closest to infecting me have all done so via firefox and I think IE is the more secure browser, what saves firefox is probably the fact IE has a higher userbase so is targeted much more. I still use firefox heavily and will say this is mianly due to tabmixplus excellent addons. Now IE9 supports the lists, firefox still holds a far superior tab session management system and superior password system.

update, after restarting FF4, the fish are smoothish as long as I keep moving the mouse pointer but when I stop moving or have another window in foreground they go super jerky, in this jerky mode it still uses the same cpu usage. So to me IE9 is way ahead on performance efficiency.
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06 May 2011   #5

Windows 7 Home Premium x64
 
 

A few seconds/milliseconds doesn't mean a thing to me, I'm not going anywhere, no rush. Firefox always wins.
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06 May 2011   #6

Windows 8.1 Pro
 
 

FireFox 4 is garbage. I downgraded to 3.5, because alot of my extensions were not compatible after weeks of using version 4, a quarter of my extensions were still not compatible. The Themes produced for FireFox 4 were horrible, themes that were updated to version 4 had graphic blotches arrgh.
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06 May 2011   #7

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

Just clarify, this update was to test the new built in channel switcher that was introduced in the revised Firefox development schedule, this isn't the final beta.

Quote:
Firefox Beta users have just been updated to a new release! While this is not the final Firefox Beta, you have been updated to a new release to test the new development channel switcher.
More - https://developer.mozilla.org/devnew...tcher-testing/

Personally I'm now using the Nightly builds, nice to see they are polishing up the front end UI
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06 May 2011   #8

windows 7 ultimate x64
 
 

another update, great news for IE9 bad and good for ff4.

On the machine I had the OS included gfx drivers, I put on 182.50 drivers (my favourite ones) and IE9 jumped to 60fps on 20 fish and managed 47fps on 1000 fish, 7600GT dual core amd 5600+.
FF4 however seems to have no difference between hardware and software mode so no effect, just 23FPS on 20 fish not worth trying 1000 , the good news for FF4 tho is that weird issue where had to move mouse was caused by an addon which modded the address bar.

The ff4 anomoly could be related to 7600gt been an old card and 182.50 been old drivers that were designed for vista but IE9 is utilising both fine.
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06 May 2011   #9

Windows 7
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by JerometheGiraff View Post
FireFox 4 is garbage. I downgraded to 3.5, because alot of my extensions were not compatible after weeks of using version 4, a quarter of my extensions were still not compatible. The Themes produced for FireFox 4 were horrible, themes that were updated to version 4 had graphic blotches arrgh.
3.6.17 is hopping - I wish chromifox basic would come back for 4.0. I'm not an uber-themer and I found it to be the best fit for me - clean, functional, mature.

but yeah, 4.0 is still beta for me, chromium/opera/ie9 all function equally well out of the box
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06 May 2011   #10

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by chrysalis View Post
FF4 however seems to have no difference between hardware and software mode so no effect, just 23FPS on 20 fish not worth trying 1000
I've not got FF4 installed to test on my computer but the latest Nightly (6.0a1) build I'm running manages 60FPS on FishIE Tank from settings 1 - 100 after going to 250 it drops to approx. 45-50FPS, this is with HW Acceleration enabled though, without it it's pretty sluggish, so yeah, what I'm saying is HWA does make a massive difference in these builds
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