Moving Storage Folders in Windows Live Mail

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  1. Posts : 2
    Pro 64 bit
       #1

    Moving Storage Folders in Windows Live Mail


    Hi guys.

    Using WLM and I have created a number of folders to help sort out my e-mails.
    I now want to move theses folders into one folder, which I can do, but only using explorer.

    However, when I restart WLM, it recreates the moved folders again in their original locations.

    WHY? How can I relocate my folders where ever I want without WLM recreating them again.

    Thanks

    Jerbear
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  2. Posts : 2,362
    Win7 H.Prem. 32bit+SP1
       #2

    Hi Jerbear, welcome to Seven Forums.
    If your pc crashes, you will lose all the mail in WLM. Depending on what email account you have, the messages can be read by accessing it directly. Here's a better method. Never Lose Emails.pdf
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  3. Posts : 6,458
    x64 (6.3.9600) Win8.1 Pro & soon dual boot x64 (6.1.7601) Win7_SP1 HomePrem
       #3

    Try this. In WLMail open the individual folders you created to organize your stuff. Select all of the msgs and DragDrog them to the folder you want to contain all msgs. Do this for each individual folder until all msgs are in one storage folder. Make sure you have moved them (ie - there are no msgs in the folders you no longer want) and that all msgs are in the folder you do want. When you're sure you have everything where you want it, you can delete the empty storage folders. Be careful though - if you didn't move the msgs and you delete the folder - they are gone!

    Side note: There is a known issue with the position of accounts and folders in the navigation pane - they don't stick. You can change the position (order) of the folders in the navigation pane as often as you like, but when you return they're in the default order.

    Peace!
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  4. Posts : 2
    Pro 64 bit
    Thread Starter
       #4

    Slartybart said:
    Try this. In WLMail open the individual folders you created to organize your stuff. Select all of the msgs and DragDrog them to the folder you want to contain all msgs. Do this for each individual folder until all msgs are in one storage folder. Make sure you have moved them (ie - there are no msgs in the folders you no longer want) and that all msgs are in the folder you do want.

    Peace!
    Thanks for the input guys. Moving the e-mails is not really what I need.
    I need to move the actual folders they reside in to one main folder. I need to keep them in their various categories/folders but under one main folder.

    Did I mention...I HATE WLM. OE was so much better. Simples!
    Unfortunately it's on all our office PC's

    Even restoring data to WLM is a pain in the butt. I found the best way to do that, if anyone is interested, is this. I manually copy my WLM message folder off to a usb drive. I then either uninstall WLM or re-install my OS, depending on the problem I was having, then re-install WLM, run it once but don't configure any email addresses.
    This then creates a new WLM msg folder. Rename it to something else, hook up the USB drive and copy my old WLM folder into to replace the new one that was created.
    Now run WLM........

    Voila. All my msg folders back in the right place. No more restoring to "Storage" folders....

    I HATE WLM! I HATE WLM!
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  5. Posts : 2,066
    Windows 8 Pro w/MC 32-bit
       #5

    Jerbear said:
    ...I need to keep them in their various categories/folders but under one main folder...
    Let's say when you initially set up WLM, you used message rules or drag and drop so that they are all under a folder you created called "Main Folder" which has subfolders under it that contain the messages. Now when you back up your computer you back up the Windows Explorer folder called "Windows Live Mail" (under AppData/Local/Microsoft). After restoring your pc and reinstalling WLM you use the Import Messages option which asks you to browse to the backed up folder. When the import is completed all the messages will still be together under the same "Main Folder" except that it will appear as a subfolder under "Imported Messages". Now you can simply move the "Main Folder" and all its contents to wherever you want within WLM in one swell foop. Correct?
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  6. Posts : 6,458
    x64 (6.3.9600) Win8.1 Pro & soon dual boot x64 (6.1.7601) Win7_SP1 HomePrem
       #6

    roncerr,

    I think Jerbear has a different issue, but your synopis of mainfolder would be correct.

    Here's how I understand it.
    1. There are existing WLM folders that Jerbear want to consolidate a new MainFolder.
    2. DragDrop in WLM "works" but the next time WLM is launched, the original folders are recreated in the appdata...\Windows Live Mail tree
    3. The new DragDropped folders are still also in the new MainFolder

    That's as far as I took it. I could have put msgs in the new MainFolder\subfolders using WLM to see what folder actually received the msgs. In other words, I don't know if the recreated are the containers for msgs or the new subfolders are the containers or if the recreated ones are just ghosts WLM created.

    I thought that Jerbear could just create the directory tree desired inside of WLM and move the msgs from old to new

    Storage Folders
    folder01
    folder02
    folder03
    > MainFolder
    > folder01
    > folder02
    > folder03
    That solves the tree structure, but the original foldeer0x are created even if I delete them, if memory serves. This solution depends on two things 1) how many machines does this affect and 2) how attached is Jerbear to the presentation of WLM folders from an Explorer standpoint. Everything looks ok from inside WLM.

    It's definitely a workaround and it might get confusing doing import msgs since you have a number of folder0x - but it would solve the dilemma.

    There's a bug, ya think?
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  7. Posts : 6,458
    x64 (6.3.9600) Win8.1 Pro & soon dual boot x64 (6.1.7601) Win7_SP1 HomePrem
       #7

    I created the following folders un Storage folders
    abc
    Main
    Main\abc

    I deleted abc, kept Main\abc

    I put 3 msgs in Main\abc - displayed after WLM restart
    moved 3 msgs from Main\abc to abc (using explorer) - 6 msgs (3 orig + 3 dups) displayed after WLM restart
    moved 3 msgs from abc back to Main\abc (using explorer) - 9 msgs (3 orig + 6 dups) displayed after WLM restart

    This is just a WLM database error - there are only 3 real files. I don't know of a way to rebuild the store.

    I still think the correct way is to create a "duplicate" folder tree under MainFolder and copy the msgs from the old to the new inside WLM, not in explorer. But as my testing showed, you still have the original folders recreated, they're empty and not the msg container, but they're there.

    Live seems to have some folder management issues - nothing harmful, just bad housekeeping.

    edit: The images say Windows Mail, but should say Windows Live Mail, the title widow is correct, my added text is wrong
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Moving Storage Folders in Windows Live Mail-wlmodd.png  
    Last edited by Slartybart; 25 May 2012 at 00:39.
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  8. Posts : 6,458
    x64 (6.3.9600) Win8.1 Pro & soon dual boot x64 (6.1.7601) Win7_SP1 HomePrem
       #8

    Jerbear,

    You might consider changing the location of your msg(options/advanced/maintenance) store to another drive or another folder. Another drive will save you a step since you won't be overwriting it with w system restore. Another folder - depends on how your system is configured and what type of restore you do.

    That way if you have to reinstall anything - all you have to do is change the location in WLM to point to where you store the data - it will prompt you with "A msg store already exists there....do you want to use it...."
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  9. Posts : 2,686
    Windows 8.1 Pro w/Media Center 64bit, Windows 7 HP 64bit
       #9

    Open WLM and click on Folders tab. Select the folder you want to move and select Move.

    Moving Storage Folders in Windows Live Mail-moe.png

    Jim
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  10. Posts : 6,458
    x64 (6.3.9600) Win8.1 Pro & soon dual boot x64 (6.1.7601) Win7_SP1 HomePrem
       #10

    Phone Man,

    Thanks, that does work - there is another underlying issue

    Jerbear,

    I think I recreated the scenario you described. As a final test, I tried deleting the ghost msgs - WLM gave me an unknown error on the delete (no kidding - it wasn't really there!)

    Make a backup before you try this, Ok?
    The sequence seems to be
    1) create your main folder and sub folders,
    2) move your msgs from old to new,
    3) delete the old,
    4) empty the trash,
    5) close WLM,
    6) navigate (explorer) to AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Live Mail\Storage Folders and make sure the old folders are really gone, if they are there - verify they are empty and delete them
    7) restart windows
    8) restart WLM

    Please post your results if you try the steps above. Thanks.
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