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Windows 7: Windows Live Mail

25 May 2012   #11

windows 7 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Slartybart View Post
"Hey you",
I see that you have updated WLM and questioned the font resolution. What you're seeing is raw eMail. why is the question. If you select a msg and view properties, details - you should see the same sort of code.

edit: Is it just Yahoo? Do you have another eMail server you could test-AOL?

Try turning on logging for eMail and see what it tells you.
It is just Yahoo. Everybody else comes in fine. I checked email box as you suggested, but don't know where to find the log. I just got windows 7 in January with my new PC and it is driving me crazy. I am use to XP. To tell the truth I am TOTALLY lost!

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25 May 2012   #12

x64 (6.1.7601) Win7_SP1 HomePrem
 
 

Um, When you say "Everybody else" do you mean MyFriend@yahoo, MyFriend@AOL, MyFirend@Gmail
or do you mean MyFriend@anywherebutYahoo
or do you mean everyone besides Yahoo Customer Care

I'm just trying to narrow the possibilities
send a screen shot of the mail that is weird.

From: Fromking at sti.net
To: Toking at att.net
Sent: Wed, May 23, 2012 10:51:16 PM
Subject: yahoo email

I called my server tech support about the yahoo email.
I was told to update my window live mail.
I have updated windows live essentials when prompted, but I don't know how to do mail.
The tech said my problem was I did not have the font installed that yahoo was using.
Sounds like a crock to me...............
I see twow providers To:ATT and From:STI, but no Yahoo, so it's confusing on this side. BTW, brother & sister, Father & daughter? Two kings....

Ya know what, i don't know where the logs are either. Try searching C:\ - use the neato keeno type:log keyword:value pair in the search box on explorer. It's probably in your AppData\Local\Microsoft\Window Live Mail folder, but it might be in the Windows tree.

Yep, there is a learning curve to Windows 7 - after two months, I'm getting used to the differences. I like most, some..... I dunno - but it's only been two months - lol
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25 May 2012   #13

windows 7 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Slartybart View Post
Um, When you say "Everybody else" do you mean MyFriend@yahoo, MyFriend@AOL, MyFirend@Gmail
or do you mean MyFriend@anywherebutYahoo
or do you mean everyone besides Yahoo Customer Care

I'm just trying to narrow the possibilities
send a screen shot of the mail that is weird.

From: Fromking at sti.net
To: Toking at att.net
Sent: Wed, May 23, 2012 10:51:16 PM
Subject: yahoo email

I called my server tech support about the yahoo email.
I was told to update my window live mail.
I have updated windows live essentials when prompted, but I don't know how to do mail.
The tech said my problem was I did not have the font installed that yahoo was using.
Sounds like a crock to me...............
I see twow providers To:ATT and From:STI, but no Yahoo, so it's confusing on this side. BTW, brother & sister, Father & daughter? Two kings....

Ya know what, i don't know where the logs are either. Try searching C:\ - use the neato keeno type:log keyword:value pair in the search box on explorer. It's probably in your AppData\Local\Microsoft\Window Live Mail folder, but it might be in the Windows tree.

Yep, there is a learning curve to Windows 7 - after two months, I'm getting used to the differences. I like most, some..... I dunno - but it's only been two months - lol

Here is what I get from anyone sending from a Yahoo web site. Of course I removed the email addresses.......... b=OlgD2k3qs3QPTcM2TSCwohrkqLNaaOBsQ6Ls+H3oyV8nwpsfAoymUHkKweq+wmXOHdiZ13nfgl3DErwaU0Y4JrcqkBfwEbw9mE hmhYpDSi0XRPKOl4Rc05oklTlWFSCXQ/pHAx13XHwOEtX9eVL1a5pPf3uqNz6ycnZqBE1Ba2c=;
X-YMail-OSG: R2x2W.oVM1lmILHuDPsWypi2WIK2Vd4jSkCgG0Rp9FbmolB
XcQ7KM8vnxWj7XkG639MfAiLQ4WeV9BdL2xR77JbupNNRq0exmRbdsmxzALG
6vsu.jjmBJpv1_okJnOJUuXDrwqdwZpGfEhqAWQNFvt6yQ.IttOIAG05XJjh
RuM3dSDKK7zRSNPHG1jAZ17yK_dIrRbelbZIJWN4tKYa.Fmn2PhCCVJJpgao
cIGahh3rrnjRJM7dyNQlUGNQNG.FI0WaRwLQgFxYbQJX7zh1ottR7i6zkzzd
FFRfFpfotN0yYOl7_hBU5e24fbLOogSqRZ8FqVKgzUrA2uwFGCXFybMcK3UU
MVRphQ29h7tlszU4KLQ_4nxah4WbdWAMQqka0XKloZ0UCHg5EKTqE5XOw71R
5rMSAVcBgNfPgDjJxf0OXfodCCkVRS8FTXUs4Y5W13.aIaU8F9JjKZdZld7J
4qzh1HxZeb2Zyi8NpVWJBTIvAYh668Q--
Received: from [76.103.21.53] by web125905.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri,
25 May 2012 07:34:54 PDT
X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.118.349524
References: removedMessage-ID: <Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 07:34:54 -0700 (PDT)
From: Judy removed
Reply-To: Judy removed
Subject: Re: kittens
To: "G. King" <>
In-Reply-To: <>
MIME-Version: 1.0
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boundary="-2119685684-283728452-1337956494=:56279"
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Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
You keep your hands off those baby kittens.=A0 They could have a desease an=
d infect your house cats....=0A=0A =0A=0A________________________________=
=0A From: G. KingremovedKing-kaze Kathleen removed
ymedical.org> =0ASent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 8:47 AM=0ASubject: kittens=
=0A =0A=0AOh dear, it is worse than I thought!=A0=A0=A0 I took an old drie=
d =0Aup chix breast tore it up in a dish and set it at the base of the stai=
rs.=A0 =0AAnd called Moma cat who was laying in the sun by the pump house.=
=A0 The =0Aminute I go back inside she came running.=A0 tasted the chix and=
looked under =0Athe deck.=A0 Two seconds later the kittens came.=A0 There =
are FOUR!=A0 =0AThey are definitely weaned.=A0 They tore into that chix lik=
e gang =0Abusters.=A0 There are two black, one gray, and one gray with whit=
e =0Afeet...............
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Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
<html><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:ti=
mes new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:18pt"><div><span>You keep y=
our hands off those baby kittens.&nbsp; They could have a desease and infec=
t your house cats....</span></div><div><br></div> <div style=3D"font-famil=
y: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 18pt;"> <div style=
=3D"font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"=
> <div dir=3D"ltr"> <font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"> <div style=3D"margin: =
5px 0px; padding: 0px; border: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); height: 0px; l=
ine-height: 0; font-size: 0px;" class=3D"hr" contentEditable=3D"false" read=
only=3D"true"></div> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b=
> G. King &lt;&gt;<br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;"=
>To:</span></b> King-kaze Kathleen &lt;&gt; <br> =
<b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, May 24, 20=
12 8:47 AM<br>
<b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> kittens<br> </fo=
nt> </div> <br>=0A<div id=3D"yiv401695202">=0A<div dir=3D"ltr">=0A<div dir=
=3D"ltr">=0A<div style=3D'color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: "Calibri"; font=
-size: 12pt;'>=0A<div>Oh dear, it is worse than I thought!&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
; I took an old dried =0Aup chix breast tore it up in a dish and set it at =
the base of the stairs.&nbsp; =0AAnd called Moma cat who was laying in the =
sun by the pump house.&nbsp; The =0Aminute I go back inside she came runnin=
g.&nbsp; tasted the chix and looked under =0Athe deck.&nbsp; Two seconds la=
ter the kittens came.&nbsp; There are FOUR!&nbsp; =0AThey are definitely we=
aned.&nbsp; They tore into that chix like gang =0Abusters.&nbsp; There are =
two black, one gray, and one gray with white =0Afeet...............</div></=
div></div></div>=0A</div><br><br> </div> </div> </div></body></html>
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No virus found in this message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 2012.0.2176 / Virus Database: 2425/5020 - Release Date: 05/24/12
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25 May 2012   #14

x64 (6.1.7601) Win7_SP1 HomePrem
 
 

Awww, kittens!

As I delve through the your example I see that the msg originates in Yahoo Web mail. I did not understand this at first and was looking for yahoo.mail POP server information.
b=OlgD2k3qs3QPTcM2TSCwohrkqLNaaOBsQ6Ls+H3oyV8nwpsfAoymUHkKweq+wmXOHdiZ13nfgl3DErwaU0Y4JrcqkBfwEbw9mE hmhYpDSi0XRPKOl4Rc05oklTlWFSCXQ/pHAx13XHwOEtX9eVL1a5pPf3uqNz6ycnZqB
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Received: from [76.103.21.53] by web125905.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri,
25 May 2012 07:34:54 PDT
X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.118.349524
I'll need to see how the msg is encoded. Here's an eMail to me from Utne Reader. Note the difference in the header info, where my example begins with "Apparently-To:" and your example seems to begin later in a header, in the "DKIM-Signature:" section (b=)
X-Apparently-To: MaskedRecipient@yahoo.com via 98.138.91.216; Fri, 25 May 2012 05:31:02 -0700
Received-SPF: pass (domain of utnedaily.com designates 64.84.6.222 as permitted sender)
X-YMailISG: z_ULTTlRZg.H8.8Xarc93lfd_FJvgyliRZW1F8zPCA8rYMl7M
O9dQG44AxdoJLrWccI.7T9LoYwFLA9M9ISejb22ppNVJr3L4F8PqoGMG9YBA
VyAlAij5OXvWeTJp6mVBzSRnjmvtzZzNUerEnFqmVOZ86Pfve.5IpjFxS07s
UF0HB0i9
X-Originating-IP: [64.84.6.222]
Authentication-Results: mta1117.mail.gq1.yahoo.com from=UtneDaily.com; domainkeys=neutral (no sig); from=utnedaily.com; dkim=pass (ok)
Received: from 127.0.0.1 (EHLO pip222.ipost.com) (64.84.6.222)
by mta1117.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with SMTP; Fri, 25 May 2012 05:31:01 -0700
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=utnedaily.com; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:list-post:list-unsubscribe:mime-version:content-type; s=dkim; bh=hHnTbXqbh+tgkE/VnXRr478sTrM=; b=wVPt0jAT3v55YB8kKxjeYcZrUpurLISxHXJzGmfNBibm6py7KdlDO8NFwWDuP21Eg3smX+0G9NRLWU5aEviEc=
From: Utne Reader <info@UtneDaily.com>
To: MaskedRecipient@yahoo.com
Subject: The Teacher Who Opened My Mind
Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 07:27:01 -0500
Message-Id: <1337948821.22256.0.933359@utnedaily.com>
Errors-To: errors+9z1zfq7lneh8an0gt6g0t1ie3vlgu...@utnedaily.com
List-Post: NO (posting not allowed on this list)
MIME-Version: 1.0
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Content-Type: text/plain


Click to view this email in a browser Utne Reader

If MaskedRecipient@yahoo.com should not be subscribed or if you
need to change your subscription information for Utne Reader,
please use this preferences page:

Utne Reader, Ogden Publications,1503 SW 42nd Street, Topeka, KS, 66609

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It might be as simple as turning off the mail scanner in AVG to test that theory. But that isn't a solution - it just identifies or eliminates AVG as the culprit.
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25 May 2012   #15

x64 (6.1.7601) Win7_SP1 HomePrem
 
 

AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Live Mail\WindowsLiveMail.log found by going there. either I missed it or Search missed it.

I'm having a learning curve with search as well as all of the other new things. I think I'll try the "use natural language search" and see if I get better results.
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25 May 2012   #16

windows 7 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Slartybart View Post
Update on logging: there is no f1 help, I turned on logging for general and E-Mail here, did the search for type:log - nothing for WLM, did a search for date:05/25/2012 - nothing for WLM. hit the ? on WLM - took me to the web, nothing on logs found (lots of promoting WLM features).

Anyway - that seems to be of little help.

OK the problem IS with my AVG. Just uninstalled it and am now downloading MS Security Essentials. Hope this works. If it doesn't, I give up. Thanks for all the Help. I'm out of here................
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25 May 2012   #17

x64 (6.1.7601) Win7_SP1 HomePrem
 
 

Well how 'bout that!

Make sure you turn off logging - hope Mona Lisa did that.

That was fun. Found some other "bugs" in the logs, I'll put them up in another thread. Basically, there were thousands of c++ errors in the log. Guess where I found the answer? Here - a sister forum - I love these guys!

I have to wait to see if that simple solution fixes the Mysterious empty folders in AppData\Local as well.

Thanks Mona Lisa - your issue was solved and perhaps an unrelated issue that was bugging me was as well. More tomorrow in the thread I'll post.

Hey You! - if you return to this thread - could you mark it solved? Thanks again.
up top Mark as Solved
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25 May 2012   #18

x64 (6.1.7601) Win7_SP1 HomePrem
 
 

Odd that it only affected eMail from the Yahoo web client. but.......
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Mona Lisa View Post
OK the problem IS with my AVG. Just uninstalled it and am now downloading MS Security Essentials. Hope this works. If it doesn't, I give up. Thanks for all the Help. I'm out of here................
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27 May 2012   #19

x64 (6.1.7601) Win7_SP1 HomePrem
 
 

Mona Lisa, is this thread solved?

note-to-self: The Calendar.edb repair did not solve the Mystery folder issue - darn!
Looking at Writer/Mail integration for that solution plus the teflon(non-sticky) navigation pane issue (moving position of Accounts, Outbox, Storage Folders - reverts to default on restart WLM). This will be a new thread when a full solution is available.
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27 May 2012   #20

windows 7 64 bit
 
 

I thought I marked my issue solved. Anyway it boiled down to the fact the last update to AVG protection made it incompatiable to windows 7-64bits. It would send the yahoo message to my server junk mail which in turn sent it in raw form to my mail box. By changing over to Microsoft Security Essentials free version the problem was solved. Again thanks for your help!
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