Windows 7 Forums

Welcome to Windows 7 Forums. Our forum is dedicated to helping you find support and solutions for any problems regarding your Windows 7 PC be it Dell, HP, Acer, Asus or a custom build. We also provide an extensive Windows 7 tutorial section that covers a wide range of tips and tricks.


Windows 7: Wierd browsing boot up problem after new build

22 May 2013   #11
UsernameIssues

W7 Pro SP1 64bit
 
 

No guarantees that you will find anything - but I would download, unzip and copy the EXE for Process Monitor directly into either startup folder. Just use the default filters. Reboot and let it gather data until Firefox starts. You can mouse over the icons on the toolbar menu to see what each does. Maybe you will see what is causing the delay.


My System SpecsSystem Spec
.
23 May 2013   #12
TORB

Windows 7
 
 

Thanks for the help guys.

Unfortunately none of the suggestions fixed the problem however, more than by good luck than good management, I managed to resolve the problem.

I deleted my Firefox Profile and built a new one from scratch. The interesting thing is that all the add ons etc are the same as the original, but something in it must have been corrupted.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
23 May 2013   #13
A Guy

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1
 
 

Ahhh, good find. That was an odd one. Glad you got it sorted

A Guy
My System SpecsSystem Spec
.

23 May 2013   #14
UsernameIssues

W7 Pro SP1 64bit
 
 

Glad that you got it working...
...sad that we don't know why it barfed.

But such is life :-)
My System SpecsSystem Spec
23 May 2013   #15
TORB

Windows 7
 
 

Unfortunately its not solved!

It was a coincidence that the new FF profile made it look like that was the issue, but the same old problem is back. However, I now a further lead that may help resolve the issue.

Just to recap, if I have Firefox starting automatically, it loads partially and then goes into space for about three minutes and then opens. I have also noticed that my Clipboard Recorder does not open. And another symptom has come to light. If, whilst I am waiting for FF to open, I click on, or open a command prompt, my keyboard does not type and the command prompt freezes.

However, if I use the task manger to kill the partially opening FF first, I don't have the keyboard issue. Also, once its been killed, and I click on the FF shortcut, it opens properly.

Next major consideration.... If FF is not started by auto method, everything works normally and I can start FF as soon as the system has loaded.

Now, here is the new bit of info that may help narrow the cause down.

In all of these trial and error attempts, when the computer booted, it did not require a user authentication or password. However, I have discovered something new by accident. After going into NETPLWIZ and setting a log on password requirement, it boots up and once the password is entered, it loads properly and opens FF the way it is meant to work. Now I am totally and completely .

No requirement for a password and its back to its old, naughty self.

(The reason I thought it was solved was that the new FF profile was done at the same time as the temporary setting of a start up password.)
My System SpecsSystem Spec
24 May 2013   #16
UsernameIssues

W7 Pro SP1 64bit
 
 

Are you using a shortcut in the start up folder to automatically launch Firefox with each boot.

Did Process Monitor show what Firefox was doing during the delay?
My System SpecsSystem Spec
24 May 2013   #17
TORB

Windows 7
 
 

Yes, I am using a short cut. Its a copy of the same shortcut that I use in the Taskbar.

I did install the Process Monitor, but there are hundreds of items in the list and I have no idea what I am should be looking for, and it adds stuff at a blindly fast rate.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
24 May 2013   #18
UsernameIssues

W7 Pro SP1 64bit
 
 

Stop the data collection after the Firefox window appears.

Find any entry for Firefox.exe
Right click on that entry
Select Include > Process Name
Scroll to the bottom - then work your way up.
I'm hoping that some failed operation will be repeated thousands of times.

I wonder if a pinned shortcut is a bit different than the one on the Start Menu or ones created by Explorer's context menu option to send to desktop.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
24 May 2013   #19
TORB

Windows 7
 
 

Thanks. I deleted the original shortcut, opened Code Stuff Starter and copied the original Firefox.exe into it's Startups page.

There are a number of items with multiple entries and I am not sure what they mean and then how to fix them, so I have attached the file and would appreciate it if you could please have a look at it for me.


Attached Files
File Type: zip Logfile2.zip (1.77 MB, 2 views)
My System SpecsSystem Spec
24 May 2013   #20
UsernameIssues

W7 Pro SP1 64bit
 
 

Please read thru to the end of this post before taking any action.

Thanks for the logfile - it looks like Process Monitor started gathering data after Firefox started loading. It shows most of the normal things that should happen when starting Firefox, but not the items causing the delay. There are only a few seconds worth of info on Firefox, not the 3 minutes like you mention in the OP. It is possible that the delay is caused by an app other than Firefox, so you will want to save all events to a log file. Such a log file may be too big to upload to the forum, but we can deal with that later.

If you want, you can create a batch file* that...
...starts Process Monitor and then starts Firefox.
Put that batch file in your OS startup** folder:

See the notes below for info on Procmon64.exe***
Code:
start C:\Procmon64.exe
ping 1.1.1.1
"C:\Program Files (x86)\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe"
(The info below is verbose. This is not meant to insult the reader. Others reading this might require this level of detail.)

*If need be, show most OS file extensions using this tutorial:
File Extensions - Hide or Show
Create/open a new text file on your desktop.
Copy/paste the info from above into that text file.
Save/close that text file.
Right-click on that new text file.
and select Rename from the context menu.
Rename the file to test.bat
Click on an empty spot on your desktop to complete the renaming process.
Right-click on the file named test.bat
Select Copy from the context menu.

**Click on Start > All Programs
Scroll (if need be) to locate the folder named Startup
Right-click on that Startup folder.
Select Open from the context menu.
Once the Windows (file) Explorer window opens,
right-click in an empty spot in the right hand pane,
and select Paste from the context menu.
That should paste test.bat file into that folder.

***(I'll forego the verbose instructions for this part.)
Procmon64.exe is created by the 32bit version of Process Monitor when it detects a 64bit OS.
Manually start the Process Monitor app using Procmon.exe.
Look in C:\Users\username\AppData\Local\Temp for Procmon64.exe.
Copy Procmon64.exe to into the root of the C drive for this test.
(Hopefully, readers know how to copy/paste a file by now.)



When you said:
"Yes, I am using a short cut. Its a copy of the same shortcut that I use in the Taskbar. "
I figured that you had copied the file for that pinned task and placed into one of the startup folders. If all you did was to copy the info from the Target field while viewing the properties of the pinned task (then pasted that into the Starter app) then it would not matter if you used a pinned task to get the info or a desktop shortcut or a Start Menu shortcut or....

I've not used Starter by CodeStuff so I'm not sure where it puts info that you entered on the Startups page. For the batch file test, you will want to remove or deselect the entry that you made for Firefox in the Starter app. I would also suggest that you simply copy the batch file to your OS startup folder.


If you want, you can skip all of the testing above and try these verbose steps first:
Remove or deselect the entry that you made for Firefox in the Starter app.
Click on Start > All Programs
Scroll (if need be) to locate the shortcut named Mozilla Firefox
Right-click on that Mozilla Firefox shortcut.
Select Copy from the context menu.
Scroll (if need be) to locate the folder named Startup
Right-click on that Startup folder.
Select Open from the context menu.
Once the Windows (file) Explorer window opens,
right-click in an empty spot in the right hand pane,
and select Paste from the context menu.
That should paste the shortcut named Mozilla Firefox into that folder.
Restart the computer and see if Firefox starts in a reasonable amount of time.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Reply

 Wierd browsing boot up problem after new build




Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search




Similar help and support threads
Thread Forum
New build Help Boot Problem :(
Hello, ive built a new computer and i got some problems i dont know whats wrong but after i built the computer i puted windows 7 CD and formated the Windows 7 it fully worked. then after i try to install a game i got BSOD,then when i boot up i get black screen and error please insert a proper boot...
BSOD Help and Support
Wierd Problem
I got a DVI to HDMI cable a few days ago and used my TV as a duplicated monitor. It worked fine, except the resolution didnt fit a tad of the screen on the left. I unplugged the HDMI side of the cord and plugged in my Xbox HDMI, I played on the Xbox for a while, and decieded to get on my PC. I...
Graphic Cards
Windows 7 x64 Dual Boot With Vista x86 Wierd Problem
Hello there! I'm glad I found this forum. Two days ago I installed Windows 7 Ultimate(x64) on drive D partition in my Vista laptop. Vista is on drive C. Everything is ok except that when I boot into Windows 7, the drive letter is changed to C and Vista to D.But everything seems perfectly fine....
Installation & Setup
Wierd Problem!!!
Hello and good evening. Recently I installed windows 7 on computer, every thing worked great and i was enjoying windows 7 BUT there was a RAW space on my hard disk so i decided to make them 2 primary partitions, let say that my OS partition (Drive C) was about 30GB and there was 119 GB raw space,...
General Discussion
Wierd wireless problem
Hey guys, i just had an ISP install a wireless connection at home and i seem to have a troublesome problem with my windows (Windows 7 64x). I checked out the "slow wifi connection" threads but that wasn't it... the problem's like this... it's like it can only support one connection at a time, as...
Network & Sharing
Wierd Problem with Win7RC
Moniter Issues:sarc: Note: I had no prior issues of any nature with the beta Win7 Today I have been reinstalling my machine, updating to the RC.I ran into trouble with the moniter: I have an Acer 19" moniter, which has an optimum resolution of 1440-900. After reinstalling, I updated my...
Drivers


Our Sites

Site Links

About Us

Find Us

Windows 7 Forums is an independent web site and has not been authorized, sponsored, or otherwise approved by Microsoft Corporation. "Windows 7" and related materials are trademarks of Microsoft Corp.

© Designer Media Ltd

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:40.

Twitter Facebook Google+



Windows 7 Forums

Seven Forums Android App Seven Forums IOS App