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Windows 7: This is weird, is there a fix?

15 Jul 2013   #21
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by GARoss View Post
Maybe I don't understand Enable Enhanced Protection Mode.
You can sift through the link I posted earlier,
I can't say I fully understand it either
But for the most part nothing Browser add-ons ever worked in the 64 bit version of internet explorer/ 8 or 9 so most people who insisted on using the 64 bit version did it because of that fact/ nothing was compatible which includes security suite add-ons so it's not surprising to see it pretty much disabled as a default setting in ie10.
I personally never used the 64 bit version even though ie8 and ie9 installed a desktop shortcut to it.
You did post an interesting screen shot of the Always Ignore option for icloud web app.


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16 Jul 2013   #22
GARoss

Windows 7 64-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by GARoss View Post
I've never used IE much so I don't know when these issues may have begun. For the past few hours I tried Chrome & decided to uninstall it. I also did an Windows Update & had problems installing a few updates. I did a search & found a solution to the error code 8024402C & have now successfully updated everything. One of the updates was IE10-64bit download so it's re-installed now but I still have similar issues.



Running IE10-64bit needs Enhanced Protected Mode, right? Would selecting "Disable" make IE10 32bit for everything or just this website?
I selected "Disable" & it apparently does this for this site only. So far today, IE10 is working fairly well but occasionally IE10 gives this error when 1st loading a different website;



...however, it then loads the site without issues if it's re-selected. It doesn't seem to be any particular site.

Perhaps an security option setting is too restrictive?
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16 Jul 2013   #23
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 


See if any of these help,
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/967897
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/Why-cant-I-view-some-websites
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/972034
The only real restrictive setting is Enhanced protection mode.
You shouldn't have any issues with the default setting.
What third party security suite do you use ?
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16 Jul 2013   #24
GARoss

Windows 7 64-bit
 
 

Microsoft Security Essentials.
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17 Jul 2013   #25
Anak

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Win 7 Home Premium 64bit Ver 6.1.7600 Build 7601 - SP1
 
 

This is going to take some splain', so bare with me and I'll try to break this down to layman terms.

My interpretation's are based on this site: https://blogs.msdn.com/Understanding Enhanced Protected Mode

And: Internet Explorer 10 - Enable 32-bit or 64-bit IE10 in Windows 7 The source of this Information box.
information   Information

In 32-bit Windows 7, Internet Explorer 10 (IE10) is still only a 32-bit browser.

In 64-bit Windows 7, Internet Explorer 10 (IE10) has 32-bit and 64-bit together in one browser now. The IE10 browser frame process runs 64-bit, but for compatibility with plug-ins, IE10 runs 32-bit tabs by default. If the user turns on Enhanced Protected Mode, they will have 64-bit tabs by default for IE10.

This tutorial will show you how to enable using 32-bit IE10 or 64-bit IE10 in Windows 7 by showing you how to turn on or off Enhanced Protected Mode in IE10.

For more information about IE10 for Windows 7, see:

IE10 for Windows 7 Globally Available for Consumers and Businesses - IEBlog - Site Home - MSDN Blogs

If you received IE10 from windows updates it will automatically know what version of operating system (OS) you are running and offer the proper version, x32 or x64.

If you download IE10 on you own from here: Download Internet Explorer 10 you have to know the version of OS you're running x32 or x64, and pick accordingly.

So GARoss, you're showing you have Windows 7 64-bit. Whether you're using EPM or not, You still have, and are using IE10 x64, because you allowed IE10 to come through windows updates.

There is confusion here between versions of IE10 x32 or x64 and how Tabs are handled under Enhanced Protection Mode (EPM).

From post #16:
Quote:
Running IE10-64bit needs Enhanced Protected Mode, right?
No. It is your choice whether to run it or not.

Quote:
Would selecting "Disable" make IE10 32bit for everything or just this website?
Just that website.
If you disable EPM for a particular site you're still running the version of IE10 you originally installed, x64.
You would have to disable EPM in Tools\Internet Options\ Advanced Tab\ Security to have your x64 version run all tabs in x32 mode.

Loosely translated from post#18 I imagine you could say Enhanced Protection Mode (EPM) is a troubleshooting feature. But, Enhanced Protection Mode (EPM) is much more than that, it is a sandbox feature used in IE10. If you reach a web site that throws up an error as in post #16 all you need to do IF you trust the site, is click on disable and EPM will be disabled and allow that site to open, and IE10 should remember that setting every time you re-visit that site. EPM is still in effect for all other sites.

You mentioned you run Java, but now have it uninstalled. Don't forget, if you want to run Java you need the version for not only your OS x64, but also for Internet Explorer (IE).
The Java Site will automatically pick the OS x32/x64 and browser type when you visit the site.

If you visit with IE it will install the x64 IE version. If you visit with FireFox (FF) it will be the x64 FF version, and so on depending on which browser you use when visiting, and for optimum performance you should visit with each browser you will be using to have the proper version for that browser.

Here is the Manual site: https://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp You can see there are four different OS's , but if you do it automatically Java will pick for you: https://www.java.com/en/download/index.jsp

David offers a good tip:
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DavidW7ncus View Post
If you tap the F12 key in IE it will display an area when you can try different changes.
You might want to play with the settings for "Browser Mode" and "Document Mode" to see if you can find something that works for you.
I don't use IE as my primary, but I've had no issues with it, and if nothing else F12 is a fun tool to play with
If your having problems with a certain page, go ahead and tap F12 there should be within the first few lines, the reason that page won't load properly. If you run across one of them
Code:
copy that in one of your next posts and put it in one of these code boxes, its the # button to the right of the quote button
and we'll see if we can decipher it for you, usually it has to do with security certificates. "There is a problem with this website's security certificate" when you try to visit a secured website in Internet Explorer


I went to: The Digital Bits - Home with my IE10x64 in EPM and had no trouble, it opened right up so there may be settings in your IE10 that need looked at.

Later....
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18 Jul 2013   #26
GARoss

Windows 7 64-bit
 
 

Apparently, F12 doesn't work with Windows 7 Home Premium. I am giving up on IE10. I have no idea why it would perform flawlessly for some & not for others. All I know is even with great advice from forum members I can't resolve the issue. The issue is more annoying than anything else. The error pops up but re-selecting a second time usually fixes the error. So, IE10 kinda works & I guess the issue would be a non issue for most but not me.

So, back to the original FF v22 issue. Changing render (rpx) to 1.0 from the default of -1.0 fixes the issue. I'm marking this post as fixed. But, I did try a couple different versions of FF before settling on v22. v23-beta (64-bit) oddly has the same issue as v22. Then tried an older v20 which rendered normal. Rpx was set to 1.0 instead of v22s -1.0 which caused the problem. But, of course, FF automatically updated to v22 so rpx had to be reset to 1.0 again.

Thanks to all for their suggestions!
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18 Jul 2013   #27
DavidE

Multi-Boot W7_Pro_x64 W8.1_Pro_x64 W10_Pro_x64
 
 

You can set FF to not automatically install updates

This is weird, is there a fix?-ffsp01.png


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18 Jul 2013   #28
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by GARoss View Post
Apparently, F12 doesn't work with Windows 7 Home Premium.
Not sure what you mean here F12 you can switch Browser mode or Document mode and I suppose a whole lot more,
I made a example here,
I have three tabs open all running *32 or (x86)
One running as 64 bit probably windows updates or MSE ?
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18 Jul 2013   #29
Anak

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Win 7 Home Premium 64bit Ver 6.1.7600 Build 7601 - SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by GARoss View Post
Apparently, F12 doesn't work with Windows 7 Home Premium. I am giving up on IE10. I have no idea why it would perform flawlessly for some & not for others. All I know is even with great advice from forum members I can't resolve the issue. The issue is more annoying than anything else. The error pops up but re-selecting a second time usually fixes the error. So, IE10 kinda works & I guess the issue would be a non issue for most but not me.

So, back to the original FF v22 issue. Changing render (rpx) to 1.0 from the default of -1.0 fixes the issue. I'm marking this post as fixed. But, I did try a couple different versions of FF before settling on v22. v23-beta (64-bit) oddly has the same issue as v22. Then tried an older v20 which rendered normal. Rpx was set to 1.0 instead of v22s -1.0 which caused the problem. But, of course, FF automatically updated to v22 so rpx had to be reset to 1.0 again.

Thanks to all for their suggestions!
I run Home Premium and F12 works for me.

I'll admit I do have some problems with IE10 as a matter of fact I had the same problem your having the first time I installed it, plus, it would crash on startup. Crash opening a new tab, tabs would hang, and I still can't see all my folders in Libraries\Pictures, but that doesn't mean I'm giving up on it.

The one item Microsoft concentrated on before they released IE10 for Windows 7 was graphics. I see your running dual monitors with two different graphics cards, when is the last time you checked for updated drivers for them? Do the monitors need new drivers?

Here's a thread about ATI Graphic cards (the second card in your specs) and Dell, granted it's for laptops, but a lot of software and hardware gets mixed between laptops and desktops. IE10 constantly crashes | Windows Secrets Lounge

Did you try clicking on the "Fix Connection Problem" button that shows in your error message in post #22?

I think you reset IE10, did you do a complete reset? Step #5 here: Internet Explorer - Reset

You could try the x32 version of IE10 available at Download Internet Explorer 10
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19 Jul 2013   #30
GARoss

Windows 7 64-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DavidW7ncus View Post
You can set FF to not automatically install updates

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Thanks. When running v20 I did a check to see what the rpx setting was (v20 displayed correctly). It was @ 1.0 as default, not -1.0 with v22. Once FF updated to v22, I changed Roxbury from -1.0 to 1.0 & haven't had issue since. Also I'd like to keep updated for security reasons.
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