Keep having to login to Windows Live Mail

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  1. Posts : 6,458
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       #11

    snap said:
    Ahh ha? Stupid me should have realised, (got to get used to these abbreviations) the "Stop signing in" is through file, options, mail, connection. I tried that, yes it stops the signing in but also unless I download/import "Contacts, Calendar, feeds etc", I do not have any. Have a good Kip/sleep.
    You're not stupid, I'm confusing - not on purpose, but because the way MS (err Microsoft) named these things. I tried to untangle the string and it didn't help. The abbreviations I use are not common, so don't get used to them, besides that there's this:
    was Windows Live Mail (WLM)...........is Windows Essentials Mail (WEM)
    was Windows Live SkyDrive (WES).... is/will be Windows Essentials OneDrive (WEO)
    was Hotmail (Hotmail)......................is Outlook.com (OLcom)
    was Livemail (Live?)........................is Outlook.com (OLcom)

    You can't win snap.

    Ok, that's what I tried to get to when my OLcom abbreviation got in the way. I asked in post# 4
    Do you have an OLcom account and do you use it for eMail?

    I should have asked
    "Do you have an Outlook.com (OLcom) account and do you use it for eMail?"

    Might have helped, but your reference is to a Microsoft Account. so we were talking, we were saying the same thing, but.....

    It's good to know that your sussed it out (I understood sussed :) )

    So it sounds as though Windows Essentials Mail (WEMail) depends heavily on the Outlook.com (OLcom) contacts and will look there to resolve any addresses that are not stored locally. This requires a user to login to their Outlook.com (OLcom) account.

    The workaround is to export your contacts on Outlook.com (OLcom) and import them to Windows Essentials Mail (WEMail).

    I suppose it's somewhat of a protection mechanism - why send/recv if it can't resolve addresses. So it forces you to logon.

    I don't like that one bit! But I don't own the company and I'm not on the development team.

    Thanks for the great feedback, I'll try to remember all of this if another member has a similar issue.

    One more question.
    Are your accounts IMAP, POP3, or HTML (formerly Hotmail protocol)
    I suspect IMAP (Internet message access protocol)

    Had you not come up with a workaround, I would have suggested using a POP3 (Post Office Protocol 3)account. It might have taken a few rounds, but I would have suggested it.

    I had a bit of fun typing all of the (acronym definitions, abbreviations). It makes my long post that much longer.

    Bill
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  2. Posts : 6,458
    x64 (6.3.9600) Win8.1 Pro & soon dual boot x64 (6.1.7601) Win7_SP1 HomePrem
       #12

    Hey snap,

    How does the workaround compare on Win7 and Win8?
    Are the contacts in the Win7 WEMail?
    Is the protocol the same?

    Are the Mail Servers the same?

    From an application standpoint, the OS shouldn't make a difference.

    Thanks again,

    Bill
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  3. Posts : 46
    Windows 7 64bit Profesional
    Thread Starter
       #13

    Slartybart said:
    Hey snap,

    How does the workaround compare on Win7 and Win8?
    Are the contacts in the Win7 WEMail?
    Is the protocol the same?

    Are the Mail Servers the same?

    From an application standpoint, the OS shouldn't make a difference.

    Thanks again,

    Bill
    Have not tried the workaround in Windows 7. Every time WLM is fired up no problems and it stays logged in from the last time I used it. Agree with it shouldn't make a difference, but it has me foxed why this should happen. The mail servers are the same, all contacts and feeds etc are there all the time. I have got rid of Feeds, I do not use them and News. I remember when I went over to Win 7 64Bit from 32. I had to re-format drives and started afresh, then Marysia, my wife asked Where are all the contacts?" Download and configured the csv file, into Windows 7 and since loading and configuring WLM as I said once logged in no probs.
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  4. Posts : 46
    Windows 7 64bit Profesional
    Thread Starter
       #14

    Slartybart said:
    snap said:
    Ahh ha? Stupid me should have realised, (got to get used to these abbreviations) the "Stop signing in" is through file, options, mail, connection. I tried that, yes it stops the signing in but also unless I download/import "Contacts, Calendar, feeds etc", I do not have any. Have a good Kip/sleep.
    You're not stupid, I'm confusing - not on purpose, but because the way MS (err Microsoft) named these things. I tried to untangle the string and it didn't help. The abbreviations I use are not common, so don't get used to them, besides that there's this:
    was Windows Live Mail (WLM)...........is Windows Essentials Mail (WEM)
    was Windows Live SkyDrive (WES).... is/will be Windows Essentials OneDrive (WEO)
    was Hotmail (Hotmail)......................is Outlook.com (OLcom)
    was Livemail (Live?)........................is Outlook.com (OLcom)

    You can't win snap.

    Ok, that's what I tried to get to when my OLcom abbreviation got in the way. I asked in post# 4
    Do you have an OLcom account and do you use it for eMail?

    I should have asked
    "Do you have an Outlook.com (OLcom) account and do you use it for eMail?"

    Might have helped, but your reference is to a Microsoft Account. so we were talking, we were saying the same thing, but.....

    It's good to know that your sussed it out (I understood sussed :) )

    So it sounds as though Windows Essentials Mail (WEMail) depends heavily on the Outlook.com (OLcom) contacts and will look there to resolve any addresses that are not stored locally. This requires a user to login to their Outlook.com (OLcom) account.

    The workaround is to export your contacts on Outlook.com (OLcom) and import them to Windows Essentials Mail (WEMail).

    I suppose it's somewhat of a protection mechanism - why send/recv if it can't resolve addresses. So it forces you to logon.

    I don't like that one bit! But I don't own the company and I'm not on the development team.

    Thanks for the great feedback, I'll try to remember all of this if another member has a similar issue.

    One more question.
    Are your accounts IMAP, POP3, or HTML (formerly Hotmail protocol)
    I suspect IMAP (Internet message access protocol)

    Had you not come up with a workaround, I would have suggested using a POP3 (Post Office Protocol 3)account. It might have taken a few rounds, but I would have suggested it.

    I had a bit of fun typing all of the (acronym definitions, abbreviations). It makes my long post that much longer.

    Bill
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    No Outlook, pop3 usual name and password protected. I must admit I like some of abbreviations going around. ie, SMF, FUBAR, NOYN, STFU and on and on and on.

    Thanks again for taking 'time out' with your suggestions.
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  5. Posts : 6,458
    x64 (6.3.9600) Win8.1 Pro & soon dual boot x64 (6.1.7601) Win7_SP1 HomePrem
       #15

    See what I mean, you just can't win!

    No Outlook, pop3 usual name and password protected....

    No Outlook or
    No Outlook.com ?

    Maybe a different tact? What is the name of your Mail Server?
    My Outlook.com Mail account in WEMail:
    Incoming: pop3.live.com
    Outgoing: smtp.live.com

    You just can't win!

    Thank you for posting what you found, it will come in handy.

    Bill
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  6. Posts : 46
    Windows 7 64bit Profesional
    Thread Starter
       #16

    Slartybart said:
    See what I mean, you just can't win!

    No Outlook, pop3 usual name and password protected....

    No Outlook or
    No Outlook.com ?

    Maybe a different tact? What is the name of your Mail Server?
    My Outlook.com Mail account in WEMail:
    Incoming: pop3.live.com
    Outgoing: smtp.live.com

    You just can't win!

    Thank you for posting what you found, it will come in handy.

    Bill
    My Incoming mail server is a [pop3] server
    Incoming: pop3 mail.plus.net
    Outgoing: smtp relay.plus.net

    No Outlook and no Outlook.com
    This one of the reasons I configured manually.

    ps, did you work out NOYN?
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  7. Posts : 6,458
    x64 (6.3.9600) Win8.1 Pro & soon dual boot x64 (6.1.7601) Win7_SP1 HomePrem
       #17

    No..Yes..No?
    Not on your Nanny?
    No one you no?

    If it's similar to FUBAR or STFU, you probably shouldn't post the answer here, I can most likely giggle it.

    So, the logon issue is just related to a populated contact list.
    0 contacts - WEMail tries to log on somewhere
    1+ Contacts- WEMail does NOT try to log on somewhere

    manually configured
    POP3
    not OLcom
    Win8

    That's different than what I thought before. hmmmmm
    Still, I can suggest that at least one contact be in WEMail.

    Thanks again snap

    Bill
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  8. Posts : 46
    Windows 7 64bit Profesional
    Thread Starter
       #18

    Not naughty. "Not On Your Nellie", this is not rude in UK.
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