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Windows 7: The most SECURE browser?

26 May 2014   #121
exitPr0gram

Windows 7 Professional Version 6.1 Build 7601 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Callender View Post
When attempting to change cookie settings to:

Allow local data to be set (recommended)

there's no way that the setting will stick. I wonder if that could be related to the last window size and position issue?

Attachment 319426
I wish someone from WhiteHat would join this conversation.


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26 May 2014   #122
UsernameIssues

W7 Pro SP1 64bit
 
 

In Chrome, there is a section of the Preferences file that records the window placement/size:
The most SECURE browser?-chrome-window.png
Aviator's Preferences file seems to be missing that info (by design?).

Aviator seems to break some things (by design?) for the sake of privacy.

I'm not sure that it is possible to allow local data to be set...
...when Aviator launches a child that disables databases.
The most SECURE browser?-disable.png

Code:
"C:\Program Files (x86)\WhiteHat\Aviator\Application\Aviator.exe" --type=renderer --disable-databases --lang=en-US --force-fieldtrials=BrowserPreReadExperiment/100-pct-default/Prerender/Prerender15minTTL/UMA-New-Install-Uniformity-Trial/Experiment/UMA-Session-Randomized-Uniformity-Trial-5-Percent/group_17/UMA-Uniformity-Trial-1-Percent/group_60/UMA-Uniformity-Trial-10-Percent/group_04/UMA-Uniformity-Trial-100-Percent/group_01/UMA-Uniformity-Trial-20-Percent/group_04/UMA-Uniformity-Trial-5-Percent/group_18/UMA-Uniformity-Trial-50-Percent/group_01/ --enable-threaded-compositing --enable-delegated-renderer --enable-deadline-scheduling --disable-pepper-3d --disable-accelerated-compositing --disable-accelerated-video-decode --disable-webrtc-hw-encoding --enable-software-compositing --disable-gpu-compositing --disable-pepper-3d --channel="3504.1.1821746514\1381905567" /prefetch:673131151


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26 May 2014   #123
A Guy

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1
 
 

Perhaps they are trying to make the fingerprint less unique?

https://panopticlick.eff.org/

A Guy
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26 May 2014   #124
UsernameIssues

W7 Pro SP1 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by A Guy View Post
Perhaps they are trying to make the fingerprint less unique?

https://panopticlick.eff.org/

A Guy
Pale Moon warns me thusly...
The most SECURE browser?-palemoon.png
...while Aviator happily takes me there without warning.
(I know/trust EEF - having followed their work for more than a decade via RISK digest.)

Unfortunately, Aviator fails EFF's test:
The most SECURE browser?-fingerprint.png


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26 May 2014   #125
exitPr0gram

Windows 7 Professional Version 6.1 Build 7601 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by A Guy View Post
Perhaps they are trying to make the fingerprint less unique?

https://panopticlick.eff.org/

A Guy
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by UsernameIssues View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by A Guy View Post
Perhaps they are trying to make the fingerprint less unique?

https://panopticlick.eff.org/

A Guy
Pale Moon warns me thusly...
Attachment 319437
...while Aviator happily takes me there without warning.
(I know/trust EEF - having followed their work for more than a decade via RISK digest.)

Unfortunately, Aviator fails EFF's test:
Attachment 319436

I performed the https://panopticlick.eff.org/ test on both my Chrome Browser and Aviator browser. I'm not sure how to determine which ones more secure:



That one is Chrome.


And this one is Aviator...

How am i to tell the difference? What's good what's bad, etc? Did Chrome do better than Aviator?

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27 May 2014   #126
Callender

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 
Privacy designed in

Yes I think that must be the case and it does really seems that some of those settings are not meant to be enabled or cannot be enabled for either security or privacy reasons. What it really needs from a user perspective is the removal of those options from the settings menus.
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27 May 2014   #127
exitPr0gram

Windows 7 Professional Version 6.1 Build 7601 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Callender View Post
Yes I think that must be the case and it does really seems that some of those settings are not meant to be enabled or cannot be enabled for either security or privacy reasons. What it really needs from a user perspective is the removal of those options from the settings menus.
to which post are you referring to ?

Call me a newbie but i don't know exactly what that sites used for and it seems UserNameIssues trusted it for some time now and i'd like to know more about it... Does the sites main page explain everything? Either way, i'd like how to read the results so i can compare my Chrome to my Aviator

It seems like a test to see how "Unique" a browser is from the details on the front page of that site.

What could be safely modified to make a browser's "Fingerprint" more unique? It seems as if Aviator is more unique than most but UserNameIssues comment in post#124 states that the browser failed EFF's test =(
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27 May 2014   #128
Callender

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

Post 126 was referring to UNI's comments in Post 122

I should have made that clear!
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27 May 2014   #129
UsernameIssues

W7 Pro SP1 64bit
 
 

You can try to follow the info presented here https://panopticlick.eff.org/self-defense.php to try and pass the test.

I don't attempt to be that hidden on the web.
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27 May 2014   #130
exitPr0gram

Windows 7 Professional Version 6.1 Build 7601 SP1
 
 
Adblock Conflict and Settings as Default Browser

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Callender View Post
Post 126 was referring to UNI's comments in Post 122

I should have made that clear!
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by UsernameIssues View Post
You can try to follow the info presented here https://panopticlick.eff.org/self-defense.php to try and pass the test.

I don't attempt to be that hidden on the web.
Oh well anyway... The response I received for Setting Aviator as the Default browser is as follows:

Hi,

Thanks again for the interest in Aviator. Weíre aware of the default problem and working on a fix right now. In the meantime, Iíve pasted below a suggested workaround from our development team thatíll fix the problem. Itís obviously more complicated this way than it needs to be, and hopefully by next update the default option will work as itís supposed to.

Users who already installed Aviator, can run Aviator as Admin once to make it default browser using the steps below:
1. Close Aviator instance if it is running
2. Desktop -> Right Click on Aviator Icon -> Run as Admin
3. After the UAC, the user has to set Aviator as the default browser.

Let me know if you have any more questions, and yeah, Iíll check out that forum and see if I can help out on anything in my limited non-technical capacity.

Regards,

Mason Kolbeck
Aviator Customer Support
WhiteHat Security, Inc.
Web: http://whitehatsec.com/aviator
Email: aviator@whitehatsec.com




As far as Adblock conflicting with Disconnect in Aviator the replay was:

While in the past Adblock would conflict with Disconnect, it seems thatís no longer the case right now and I havenít heard of a single user whoís had a problem or change in performance after installation of adblock. This doesnít mean that there absolutely wonít be any problems, but it doesnít look like thereís blatant incompatibility between the two and the average user should be fine.
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