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Windows 7: HTML5 / Flash battle on Youtube

03 Jun 2014   #1

Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 
HTML5 / Flash battle on Youtube

Hi guys

I finally updated IE9 to latest IE11. Whilst not a total convert to IE11 it's perhaps not as bad as I thought. However an annoying issue has cropped up. On youtube I have always had HTML5 as the preferred player where possible. But since updating to IE11 flash is now always being used. I checked the link below and it is set to use HTML5 whenever possible. How is it that flash is winning the war to play every youtube video? Before updating it was never like this. I tried deleting cookies, re-applying the below several times but it still doesn't work. If I then disable the flash add on IE11 will finally comply and play all the youtube videos I select in HTML5 super smooth but I don't think I should be needing to do this every time should I? I also have Mozilla Firefox on my laptop and this doesn't suffer in the same way so it's specifically IE11 doing this

https://www.youtube.com/html5

Cheers
Wayne


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03 Jun 2014   #2

Win-7 Home Prem 64-bit 7601 Free SP1
 
 

Hi,
The easiest way to make youtube show in html5 is to disable flash in manage add-ons
You might be surprised on how many play with flash disabled,
Even on ie10 which I'm still on personally,
ie11 has improved a bit but I'm not liking developer tools at all,
And there's still a bit of dpi issues when using to much and too much page zoom,
Cheers.
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03 Jun 2014   #3

Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Cheers mate. That works as you suggested fine to make most play in HTML5 but I just find it frustrating that I have to disable the add on. Before when I ran IE9 a fair proportion of the youtube videos would play in HTML5 even with flash enabled. I tested my wifes user account on the same laptop and she doesn't exhibit the same issue, ie. her vids play mainly in HTML5 instead of flash without the need to disable the add on for flash. Trouble is just cannot see how to force / make it work on mine. The cookie is enabled and everything

Cheers
Wayne
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03 Jun 2014   #4

Win-7 Home Prem 64-bit 7601 Free SP1
 
 

Hi,
Probably a bug in flash,
I would guess your assessment is correct on Adobe preferring users to use flash and not html5
Not sure how to correct the issue ?
You might test using ie10 ?
Cheers.
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03 Jun 2014   #5

Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

I hope your right and it's just a flash bug. It's annoying though - I reset internet explorer 11 but it didn't help. I just think it's strange my wife's user account on the same computer plays html5 over flash but mine is the other way around despite the relevant cookie being enabled. Maybe the next round of flash updates could alleviate this - unless anyone has any ideas

Cheers
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03 Jun 2014   #6

Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

I guess it's worth adding if I visit a site like videojs.com the demo vid plays straight away in html5 first time smooth as silk so it seems very specific to youtube. I know I can workaround it but I feel this is yet another glitch to add to the many!

Cheers
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03 Jun 2014   #7

W7 Pro SP1 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Scottyboy99 View Post
Hi guys

I finally updated IE9 to latest IE11. Whilst not a total convert to IE11 it's perhaps not as bad as I thought. However an annoying issue has cropped up. On youtube I have always had HTML5 as the preferred player where possible. But since updating to IE11 flash is now always being use...
I'll point out a minor and perhaps useless point that YouTube loads Flash to show you adverts (even when Flash is not needed for the videos). Other video websites don't do this in IE11.
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03 Jun 2014   #8

Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Hi mate

Yeah I do understand that youtube wants to fire alot of adverts at us. And as such flash will never completely go away on this site. But it's every single one, usually the majority of vids playback in html5 - I just cannot get any to play in this way unless I actually disable the add on for flash. If I do that it's great as html5 plays and does a wonderful job. Obviously youtube in IE11 is paying no attention to the cookie set that tells it to use html5 where possible. I am just scratching my head, no such issue in Firefox or the other user account. I was hoping there is a really simple fix

Cheers
Wayne
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04 Jun 2014   #9

Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Well I tried another laptop and it's doing the same with flash always playing instead of html5. It's obviously something up with the youtube / IE11 combo. But I still find it strange that Mozilla is fine and even stranger the separate user account in the same system is playing html5 mainly
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04 Jun 2014   #10

W7 Pro SP1 64bit
 
 

This separate user account that you tested with - is it an admin account?

Did you restart and then test with this second account as the only one logged on?
(If not, please try that.)

Or did you use Switch user?
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