Is Internet Explorer Really All That Bad?

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  1. Posts : 8
    Windows 7 Professional Edition x64
       #1

    Is Internet Explorer Really All That Bad?


    I get alot of people telling me that Internet Explorer is "absolutely awful" or that it is a "lame excuse for a web browser" but I'm not sure what to believe really, I have used IE in the past and though I can't say I'd use it as a primary browser I definitely wouldn't mind using it, if I were forced to use it I would probably be happy with what I could do to be honest, it comes pre-installed with Windows so it's not a hassle at all and there are many other positives to it as well. I am currently running Google Chrome but am actually considering IE as a full time browser... Call me crazy but I don't see too many downsides. We know it won't die because Microsoft will probably always be with us, and it is a fast browser from my experience, any input? I'm guessing it's bad rep comes from past experiences...
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  2. Posts : 9,600
    Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
       #2

    In the past, IE really was terrible. However, the past two or three versions are actually pretty good. People who knock IE usually are basing their opinion on past experience.
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  3. 4wd
    Posts : 337
    W7, W8.1
       #3

    All the latest IE iterations have been good, stable & fast IMO (apart from it's fonts looking muddy on all my laptops, one reason for not using it much). Am on Firefox, fonts looks sharp and got some add-ons I don't want to be without, apart from that could use IE anytime.
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  4. Posts : 9,600
    Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
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    4wd said:
    ...(apart from it's fonts looking muddy on all my laptops, one reason for not using it much)...
    Curious. I'm not saying your fonts don't look muddy but the fonts on both of my notebooks (both 15" Lenovos) and all three of my old, retired netbooks (two Acers and one Asus) were nice and sharp. Do you have ClearType enabled and set properly?
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  5. Posts : 92
    Windows 8
       #5

    As said before the latest IE (since IE 9 or 10) are much better than previous versions.

    When talking about IE though you have to understand than in the past, it was the defacto dominant browser. But it was based on it being shipped with windows not on its qualities as a browser.
    IE was also the worst at following W3C web standards and web sites usually had to hack their pages to render them properly in IE. Which in turn caused problems in browsers which themselves followed the standards more closely. This non-adherence to standards of old IE still haunts the modern versions, hence the Compatibility view found since IE 8 which tries to solve that.

    Today IE is mostly on par with FF and Chrome, on features and adherence to W3C standards (see : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acid3). FF is better on extensions but still relies on a single process (less secure: no sandboxing, less stable: crash in one tab crashes the whole browser), Chrome feels more polished overall for normal users but lacks customizability.

    One thing that you might lack on IE is that you don't have as much control on options per-page or per-website. You can place websites in the old concept of IE security zones but it doesn't allow as much freedom as FF or Chrome. You can't for example disable activeX only for one site in your Trusted Zone, you'll have to disable it for the whole zone. This can be very annoying.
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  6. Posts : 1,049
    Windows 7 Pro 32
       #6

    With ActiveX filtering enabled you should be able to disable ActiveX for any site
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  7. Posts : 92
    Windows 8
       #7

    You missed my point Tookeri. I was choosing ActiveX as an example. What about Javascript ? Java applets ? Animated GIFs ? Iframes ? Access to the clipboard via script ? etc.. These can be configured with the Security Zones. You can't choose options for a very specific page that won't affect the zone it's in.

    This kind of granularity of control over options on a per-site basis has been found in FF (sometimes via about:config but still accessible) Presto Opera (Site preferences) and even Chrome although to a lesser degree (via the exceptions system) for years.
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  8. Posts : 1,049
    Windows 7 Pro 32
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    Oh, read to fast, sorry. I think the concept of Security Zones is a good one, and I guess you could use the Restricted Sites zone as a semi-trusted one with more restrictions than the Trusted sites zone, but I haven't tried that.

    However, to control a specific page that's not enough, as you say. I find FF with NoScript the best option for me for that, but I still use IEs Trusted sites a lot and I have the Internet zone set to High = appropriate for websites that might have harmful content. I think that's the best you can do with IE.
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  9. whs
    Posts : 26,210
    Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
       #9

    The current IE is the best browser of all. Don't have people tell you otherwise.
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  10. Posts : 20,583
    Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
       #10

    Third party security suites do effect the way ie works
    Often security features of ie conflict with third party security suites features,
    Otherwise ie works very well ie11 has gotten better with each new version,

    All new browser version have bugs which Chrome has recently experienced and so has Firefox so it's normal to be buggy in the first few months after a new release,

    People have an uncanny ability to download more crap than can be believed :)
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