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    What is Palemoon mysterious processes and why does waterfox need...


    What is Palemoon mysterious background processes and why does waterfox need Visual C++ 2010 Redistributable Package (x64)? Thank you for the information in advance.


    For reference, I got the info below. I wish they showed side by side comparison.


    In Pictures: Firefox Faceoff - Nightly vs. Pale Moon vs. Waterfox - Slideshow - PC World Australia


    Pale Moon rated the slowest in the Kraken test and took the longest to load from a cold start. It appears to use the most memory over the other two 64-bit browsers, and the mysterious background processes that it runs probably need to be considered and added to its overall memory-use tally.
    Last edited by groze; 25 Feb 2015 at 18:12.
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    I've been using PaleMoon for over a year now, since I find the original Firefox bloated, but I can attest that it is slow on a cold boot. I develop websites and getting it to load from localhost is taking a long time. However, I am unsure what "background processes" it runs as the article suggests.

    I have just tried Waterfox and loading from localhost is a breeze. I might switch to this, now. I'm just going to import my bookmarks and settings.

    groze said:
    Why does Waterfox need Visual C++ 2010 Redistributable Package (x64)?
    Waterfox is built with Intel's C++ compiler.

    Source: https://www.waterfoxproject.org/
    The Microsoft Visual C++ 2010 Redistributable Package installs runtime components of Visual C++ Libraries required to run applications developed with Visual C++ on a computer that does not have Visual C++ 2010 installed.

    Source: Download Microsoft Visual C++ 2010 Redistributable Package (x86) from Official Microsoft Download Center
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    Just to say that the developer of Waterfox is often very slow in releasing security patched versions. For that reason I stopped using it and swithched to 64bit Cyberfox (no Java) - there are Intel and AMD optimized versions available and it's fully customizable and I've never found a Firefox add on that wouldn't work in Cyberfox.
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    Callender said:
    Just to say that the developer of Waterfox is often very slow in releasing security patched versions. For that reason I stopped using it and swithched to 64bit Cyberfox (no Java) - there are Intel and AMD optimized versions available and it's fully customizable and I've never found a Firefox add on that wouldn't work in Cyberfox.

    @Callender

    Can Cyberfox have multi-profiles like Firefox?

    Edit
    The following is a Rephrased Question
    How does Cyberfox work with secure sites any issues?




    Just for reference you can get the 64 bit java version here

    https://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp
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    Cyberfox - yes you can have multiple profiles. It uses it's own profile so it's possible to install it alongside Firefox if you want to check it out. Not sure what you mean about banking. It's pretty much the same as Firefox but there's 32bit or 64bit versions. Obviously 64bit plugins won't work with the 32bit version.

    Java - don't need it and haven't had it installed for the last two years.

    The problem with Cyberfox is - it has tons of extra options and it can be tricky to customize it to your liking.
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    Previous post of mine was edited for clarification.

    Is it ok to download Cyberfox from SourceForge?

    Cyberfox | SourceForge.net
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    Cyberfox Download Link


    groze said:
    Previous post of mine was edited for clarification.

    Is it ok to download Cyberfox from SourceForge?

    Cyberfox | SourceForge.net
    Personally I'd check out the downloads on the manufacturer's site:

    https://8pecxstudios.com/

    Hover your mouse pointer over the "Cyberfox" button and choose the appropriate version. I can't see your system specs so just decide which version suits you. On the download page choose "Installer Format"
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    Callender said:
    groze said:
    Previous post of mine was edited for clarification.

    Is it ok to download Cyberfox from SourceForge?

    Cyberfox | SourceForge.net
    Personally I'd check out the downloads on the manufacturer's site:

    https://8pecxstudios.com/

    Hover your mouse pointer over the "Cyberfox" button and choose the appropriate version. I can't see your system specs so just decide which version suits you. On the download page choose "Installer Format"

    That is odd you can't see my system specs. I have most set to registered members here

    https://www.sevenforums.com/profile.php?do=privacy



    I couldn't download the installer file directly from their website it was way to slow even for high speed. I used the SourceForge intel link they provided. Right now I prefer a 32 bit browsers until Mozilla developers have more 64 bit add-ons available. However, the new add-one signage requirement may force me to use Palemoon. I read that if Mozilla enforces the add-on requirement it will effect 3rd party builds as well except for Palemoon. Palemoon does it differently. I still would like to know what is Palemoon's mysterious background processes that the article is talking about.
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    Re: Your profile. my mistake, I can see your specs. Download speed? That version took 3 minutes to download on my machine.

    Re: Bank security. There's no problem with a fresh install. You could add Hitman Pro Alert:

    HitmanPro.Alert 2 - SurfRight

    Works with every installed browser on my machine. (Cyberfox, FF Portable, IE11, Aviator, SlimBrowser, SlimJet, Vivaldi, Opera 64bit Portable)
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    Re Palemoon process. Which slide is it? I couldn't be bothered to click through them all. I hate those click through slide shows!
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