| Windows 7: Firefox flaws account for 44% of all browser bugs |
10 Nov 2009
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Where is Chrome in the statistics?
Honestly, I used to love FF before. Now, I find myself leaning towards Chrome. Granted, Chrome does not possess the all-encompassing-plugins as on date, but it could get there. I found Chrome to be more compatible than FF. | My System Specs |
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I think one of the main reasons that FireFox is seeing the highest percentage over IE is that MS made some serious improvements first with IE 7 and now IE 8 as far as security including the "suggested sites" option. That tends to steer the novice user away from garbage sites to MS screened sites while searching.
This is turn around there from the old IE 5.0, 5.5, 6 days where FF had the edge and wasn't open to trojans, trojan downloaders, adwares, spywares like you saw with the older IE versions. Watching what addons/toolbars for browsers are used can also help limit the vulnerabilities. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64, XP Mode, W8 RP VM, Linux Mint Debian 2nd OS HD- 7 Pro x64 second case CPU AMD Phenom II X4 975 Deneb 3.6ghz - 965 on new mini tower Motherboard Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4 Memory Kingston Hyper X DDR3 1600 1.5v 16gb - Mushkin on 2nd build Graphics Card MSI HD Radeon 5750 1gb - MSI HD Radeon 6450 on mini tower Sound Card Creative Labs X-Fi XtremeGamer - Realtek onooard 2nd case Monitor(s) Displays 2 x Acer P191W 19" widesscreen - HP 20" widescreen mini towe Screen Resolution 1440x900 native - 1600x1024 on 7 Pro x64 build Keyboard Microsoft Recusa Razor - MS Comfort 3000 on second build Mouse MS Trackball Explorer - A4TECH dual scroll wheel trackball PSU Corsair 750TX - primary / Corsair CX600 - second Case Antec 900-2 - SSD compatible / NZXT Vulcan mini tower Cooling Zalman CNPS9900A Hard Drives Primary Ultimate x64 build-
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Quote: Originally Posted by logicearth Granted it will not work for those who disable UAC, but who cares about them. I take great offense to that statement.
We should be concerned about how everyone secures their computers as all the insecure computers keep all of us fighting the issues of attacks and virus. UAC isn't perfect and is highly annoying when your setting up a computer and trying a lot of software demo's like myself UAC becomes more of a negative then a positive aspect to my computer experience. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Alienware M17x R3 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Core i7 2670QM 2.2GHz 3.3GHz Turbo Mode Memory 12GB Dual Channel DDR3 at 1333MHz Graphics Card 2GB GDDR5 AMD Radeon 6990M Sound Card Audio Powered by Klipsch Monitor(s) Displays 17.3-inch WideFHD 1920 x 1080 60Hz WLED Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Alienware multi color keyboard Mouse logitech G300 gaming mouse Case alienware laptop case Cooling Dual heatsink and fans Hard Drives 120GB SSD slot 1
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That is interesting, however, I never experience any issues while I use Firefox (official releases).
I don't find it unbeatable but I have yet to find anything that is faster, more customizable, and easier to use. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Pavilion dv6815nr Notebook OS 7 Home Premium x86 CPU AMD Turion 64 X2 Mobille Technology TL-60 2.0GHz Memory 3GB Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 7150M / nForce630M Sound Card Conexant High Definition SmartAudio 221 Screen Resolution 1280 x 800 Mouse Synaptics TouchPad Hard Drives Samsung 147GB Other Info Norton Security Suite (360) |
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| | Windows 7 37 posts London, Earth |

Quote: Originally Posted by zezasu Thanks Crazy B. but I still think i read it somewhere else lol. Then someone probably got it from there though. I will still keep using Opera though and enjoy it regardless of all this.
Safe browsing and not going to dodgy sites also helps, unfortunately the average person does not know this and word by mouth keeps spreading Firefox. As I said it's a widely quoted source - all links I found lead back to that one piece of research.
Of course Firefox with noscript and flashblock installed is not vulnerable to these attacks - if you are also aware of social engineering tricks - as you point out - and avoid them, that helps too.
Opera will stay (relatively) safe as long as it stays at 2.5% market share 
Quote: Originally Posted by halluc1nati0n Where is Chrome in the statistics? ...snip ... If you use your google-fu and search for BROWSER MARKET SHARE you will find out quicker than asking
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Quote: Originally Posted by macgyver2 
Quote: Originally Posted by logicearth Granted it will not work for those who disable UAC, but who cares about them. I take great offense to that statement. You really shouldn't take offense. Because if you of your own free will disable the security that protects you. Well that is your own doing. And if something requires that security that you disabled to be on to work, well? Software cannot protect you from yourself, and as long as you disable the security. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Alienware Aurora ALX R4 OS Windows 7 x64 (SP1) CPU Intel Core i7-3930K (3.2GHz, Turbo 4GHz) Motherboard Alienware Aurora-R4 x79 Memory 4x Samsung 4GB PC3-12800 DDR3 (16GB 1600MHz) Graphics Card Nvidia Geforce GTX 690 (Stock) Sound Card RealTek Integrated Audio Monitor(s) Displays Dell UltraSharp U3011 Screen Resolution 2560x1600 PSU 875W Some Dell PSU <.< Hard Drives Samsung P830 256 GB, WD Raptor 150GB, 2x 1TB HDDs Other Info Dell Inspiron Mini 10v (Intel Atom N270 1.6 GHz; 1GB; Windows 7 Ultimate) |
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Quote: Originally Posted by halluc1nati0n Where is Chrome in the statistics? Chrome was still in beta form when first released there and won't be seeing any percentage share until that briwser and OS is generally available. The article there simply makes comparison between the browsers that already see regular use. Even Opera has been around for some time seeing it's own 10 Unite release lately. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64, XP Mode, W8 RP VM, Linux Mint Debian 2nd OS HD- 7 Pro x64 second case CPU AMD Phenom II X4 975 Deneb 3.6ghz - 965 on new mini tower Motherboard Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4 Memory Kingston Hyper X DDR3 1600 1.5v 16gb - Mushkin on 2nd build Graphics Card MSI HD Radeon 5750 1gb - MSI HD Radeon 6450 on mini tower Sound Card Creative Labs X-Fi XtremeGamer - Realtek onooard 2nd case Monitor(s) Displays 2 x Acer P191W 19" widesscreen - HP 20" widescreen mini towe Screen Resolution 1440x900 native - 1600x1024 on 7 Pro x64 build Keyboard Microsoft Recusa Razor - MS Comfort 3000 on second build Mouse MS Trackball Explorer - A4TECH dual scroll wheel trackball PSU Corsair 750TX - primary / Corsair CX600 - second Case Antec 900-2 - SSD compatible / NZXT Vulcan mini tower Cooling Zalman CNPS9900A Hard Drives Primary Ultimate x64 build-
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| | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 403 posts NH |

Quote: Originally Posted by logicearth 
Quote: Originally Posted by macgyver2 
Quote: Originally Posted by logicearth Granted it will not work for those who disable UAC, but who cares about them. I take great offense to that statement. You really shouldn't take offense. Because if you of your own free will disable the security that protects you. Well that is your own doing. And if something requires that security that you disabled to be on to work, well? Software cannot protect you from yourself, and as long as you disable the security. the offense is the "but who cares about them" part sounds like your saying if they don't want to protect themselves then they don't need protecting by others. I guess its my army values of protecting those who can't protect themselves. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Alienware M17x R3 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Core i7 2670QM 2.2GHz 3.3GHz Turbo Mode Memory 12GB Dual Channel DDR3 at 1333MHz Graphics Card 2GB GDDR5 AMD Radeon 6990M Sound Card Audio Powered by Klipsch Monitor(s) Displays 17.3-inch WideFHD 1920 x 1080 60Hz WLED Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Alienware multi color keyboard Mouse logitech G300 gaming mouse Case alienware laptop case Cooling Dual heatsink and fans Hard Drives 120GB SSD slot 1
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Quote: Originally Posted by macgyver2 ...I guess its my army values of protecting those who can't protect themselves. You cannot protect those that do not protect themselves. You could give them all the best protection in the world, but that protection becomes useless when the ones being protected shot themselves. Turning off UAC is the same thing as shooting yourself, UAC handles a lot more then just prompting you for confirmation. It also handles the transfer between the various levels of Mandatory Integrity Control (Low, Medium (everything normally ran without admin rights), High, System). And MORE! | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Alienware Aurora ALX R4 OS Windows 7 x64 (SP1) CPU Intel Core i7-3930K (3.2GHz, Turbo 4GHz) Motherboard Alienware Aurora-R4 x79 Memory 4x Samsung 4GB PC3-12800 DDR3 (16GB 1600MHz) Graphics Card Nvidia Geforce GTX 690 (Stock) Sound Card RealTek Integrated Audio Monitor(s) Displays Dell UltraSharp U3011 Screen Resolution 2560x1600 PSU 875W Some Dell PSU <.< Hard Drives Samsung P830 256 GB, WD Raptor 150GB, 2x 1TB HDDs Other Info Dell Inspiron Mini 10v (Intel Atom N270 1.6 GHz; 1GB; Windows 7 Ultimate) |
11 Nov 2009
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| | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 403 posts NH |
Well I won't debate the comment " You cant protect those that do not protect themselves" as the army, police, moms and dads etc do this on a daily basis.
As for what UAC does I have read so many different opinions on what it does or does not do that I concluded that what I know, it takes up some portion of my HDD space is all it does or ever will do.
So until I read otherwise its just like any other program for security and its flawed and until they fix the flaws for me its just an annoyance to tell it to trust what I am doing and can't detect when actions are initiated by some rouge program.
So basically it sounds like UAC is strictly a control mech. that "criminals" will find ways around and apparently already have. this program (UAC) is like a card access system into a building some cards have higher access then others. UAC should grant or deny access based on a set of rules in its programing. Only problem is UAC locks the doors what about the windows? or the garage? I am not saying UAC isn't a good idea I just think its to little to late and not fully fuctional for what ever reason. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Alienware M17x R3 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Core i7 2670QM 2.2GHz 3.3GHz Turbo Mode Memory 12GB Dual Channel DDR3 at 1333MHz Graphics Card 2GB GDDR5 AMD Radeon 6990M Sound Card Audio Powered by Klipsch Monitor(s) Displays 17.3-inch WideFHD 1920 x 1080 60Hz WLED Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Alienware multi color keyboard Mouse logitech G300 gaming mouse Case alienware laptop case Cooling Dual heatsink and fans Hard Drives 120GB SSD slot 1
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