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Windows 7: Gmail: Sending to "MyAccount.@gmail.com" (with a dot) fails

25 Sep 2015   #1
Yaron

Windows 7 Ultimate x32
 
 
Gmail: Sending to "MyAccount.@gmail.com" (with a dot) fails

Hello,

I'm using the old Gmail Chat.

A long time ago I added my own account to the Chat List so that I'd be able to send myself a message from that list.
I had to add a "." (dot) after the User Name; - instead of "MyAccount@gmail.com", "MyAccount.@gmail.com".

In the last few days, whenever I send mail to "MyAccount.@gmail.com" - I get a "Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently" message.


I'd appreciate your help.

Regards.


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25 Sep 2015   #2
Alejandro85

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Check the full content of the reject email. Servers explain the reasons of delivery failure there and let's you take appropriate actions.
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25 Sep 2015   #3
Yaron

Windows 7 Ultimate x32
 
 

Hi Alejandro85,

Thanks for replying. I appreciate it.

Quote:
Technical details of permanent failure:
Internal parse error: Illegal envelope To: address (not valid RFC5321 syntax):
Any idea?

Regards.
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25 Sep 2015   #4
Alejandro85

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

According to Wikipedia your email address is invalid (because it has a trailing dot). Not entirely sure, and without chances to test, but the email standard has the option to quote the account part of the address to deal with invalid addresses. So, what I would try is:

"MyAccount."@gmail.com

Including the quotes.
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25 Sep 2015   #5
Yaron

Windows 7 Ultimate x32
 
 

Thank you so much! Really clever.

It used to work without the quotes up until a few days ago. Weird.

Quote:
and without chances to test
May I ask what you mean? Don't you have a Gmail account?

If you do (have an account), I have another question and your help might save me a lot of searching.

How do I remove the old MyAccount.@gmail.com and replace it with "MyAccount."@gmail.com?
There used to be a simple option for that but it's gone now.

*I use the old Chat.*

Best regards.


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25 Sep 2015   #6
Alejandro85

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Yaron View Post
It used to work without the quotes up until a few days ago. Weird.
Maybe they just updated the server to make it more standard-compliant, and as a side-effect it began rejecting malformed addresses like yours. Just speculating, but no idea really.


Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Yaron View Post
Quote:
and without chances to test
May I ask what you mean? Don't you have a Gmail account?
That is, I don't have a real email address ended with a dot to try my supposition. I happen to have a GMail account, but doesn't has an address like that, so, for this purpose, it's useless

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Yaron View Post
How do I remove the old MyAccount.@gmail.com and replace it with "MyAccount."@gmail.com?
You don't change anything in the mail configuration, what I mean was entirely client-sided. That is, when you're going to send an email, add the quotes there in the "to" field. I suspect the GMail server would latter interpret it as pointing to your account. At least it should do so according to the standard.
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25 Sep 2015   #7
Yaron

Windows 7 Ultimate x32
 
 

Thanks again. Appreciated.

My user-name does *not* include a dot either.
I wanted to be able to email myself with 2 clicks only (by adding my account to the Chat list), and a few years ago I read somewhere that I had to add a dot; - otherwise it was impossible to add yourself to your own Chat list.

So, you can actually test it yourself.
Send yourself a message with a dot after the user-name, and then try your clever workaround with the quotes.

My last question was about editing the Chat list. - Removing an old contact and adding a new one (see the screenshot).

Our time zones are different. I have to retire now.

Best regards. To you and to Buenos Aires.
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25 Sep 2015   #8
Alejandro85

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Interesting...... Got it now.

Tried it adding a training dot to my own mail, and it failed with a message similar to yours. Then tried quoting my address and it worked! I got my email back at my own mailbox in fact, including the (quoted) dot in the destination. So at least for plain email it works as expected, now try it in your chat.

It seems that the GMail server just ignores dots in the email addresses and considers only letters and numbers to determine who is the destination. Wikipedia mentions something of this as an example, which could make sense to what you mentioned back in the first post.

I haven't tried the chat itself, so no idea here, or how to add or remove it. In fact it has been years since I last entered the GMail website
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26 Sep 2015   #9
Yaron

Windows 7 Ultimate x32
 
 

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03 Oct 2015   #10
Yaron

Windows 7 Ultimate x32
 
 

Hi Alejandro85,

Thanks again for your help.

It turns out that Gmail still accepts My.Account@gmail.com (dot in the middle of the user-name).

Steps to easily email yourself:

1) Sign in to chat.
2) Type My.Account@gmail.com in the chat search box.
3) In the popup select "Invite to chat".
4) Type again My.Account@gmail.com in the chat search box.
5) In the popup select "Show in chat list".

Best regards.
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