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Windows 7: Alternative Hotmail programme When Windows Live Mail Ends In June 2016

14 May 2016   #11
Brds7t7

Windows 7 Pro 64-Bit, Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit, Windows 8.1 Pro 64-Bit
 
 

What problems are you having Strollin? Just the errors popping up?
I'm using IMAP in WLM 2012 now and it's working fine, just had to make a few adjustments. Only thing I have noticed is that it isn't as quick as DeltaSync was. Syncing was almost instantaneous before whereas now there is a little delay when syncing a folder/folders. Also when clicking "Send/Receive All" it probably takes around 10 seconds longer to check all my accounts. But I don't mind that as long as I can keep using the program.
The calendar and contacts sync won't work anymore but I always used my Gmail for that anyway, as I use Android devices.


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14 May 2016   #12
Callender

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

There are advanced settings to enable logging. Maybe try enabling all types of logging and check logs for errors and see if anything obvious shows up.
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14 May 2016   #13
Chris Nicola

Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit SP1
 
 

I did some research and it seems that Thunderbird has the ability to import contacts and e mail messages from WLM. So Thunderbird will be a good alternative to WLM as long as it will still be able to sync messages from Hotmail after the changeover in June.

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1046033

I do hope though that it will still be possible to continue using WLM 2012 after some tweaking though nothing is guaranteed.

Kind Regards
Chris
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26 Aug 2016   #14
Chris Nicola

Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit SP1
 
 

Well after some anticipation Microsoft pulled the plug and Windows Live mail stopped working today and would no longer send or receive messages. After looking at all the options I decided the best free app for my particular needs was Thunderbird and the best paid app was Microsoft Outlook. I was actually offered a free 1 year subscription to Office 2016 and outlook so I would be fully prepared.

I am glad to say though I found a work around to get Windows Live Mail working again without needing to use any other programmes. I followed the advice on this website to configure WLM for IMAP.

Windows Live Mail 2012 end of Outlook support - gHacks Tech News

Since my original post I have switched to Windows 10 and WLM is working fine. The same method should work on Win 7 if anyone wishes to try it.

Here is the procedure.

1 Using your favourite browser log on to your outlook/Hotmail account.
2 Click on the gear symbol at the top right and mail options will open. click on options at the bottom of the list
3 In the options list on the left select mail and click on POP and IMAP accounts. You will see a screenshot like the one attached
4 Select to allow POP and IMAP and select the other options you prefer and click SAVE
5 Now open your WLM and right click your existing Hotmail account and select remove account since it does not work anyway.
6 Under the accounts tab click to add a new account and write a fake account like fred1234@gmail.com The reason for this is if you write your correct Hotmail account you will not get the options to needed to configure Hotmail for IMAP which you will get with a g mail account. You can overwrite the fake account with your true Hotmail account and password before you click apply/OK.
7 Under the general tab write your true Hotmail /outlook e mail address and name etc.
8 Please see screenshot. Under the servers tab write your server is IMAP
Incoming mail: imap-mail.outlook.com
Outgoing mail: smtp-mail.outlook.com
Write your correct e mail and password
9 Please see screenshot. Under the advanced tab click outgoing mail port 587 and tick SSL box
Incoming mail port 993 and tick SSL box
10 Configure IMAP tab as shown in the screenshot.
11 Click apply /OK and you should be ready to go.

Select to synchronise the account. You can right click the account and choose download all folders or click the send/receive all button. Initially you may have to do some debugging like enter the password again or close and reopen WLM. After a while though all the folders should download and yo should be up and running. I did not try the POP settings as IMAP worked file for me.

I hope this information will be useful to someone.

Kind regards
Chris

Update: On my system the deleted items folder in WLM was not working so I renamed it to Trash as explained in this Tutorial and then it started working properly and is syncronising with the with the Deleted Items Folder on the Outlook server.

https://support.tigertech.net/windows-live-mail-imap

I did not select the Inbox as the root folder as suggested in the tutorial as that did not work for me.

Please compare the two screenshots to see the difference in the naming of the IMAP folders. I hid the redundant Deleted items folder in WLM. Of course computers are different so what worked for me might not work for someone else.

Kind regards
Chris


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30 Aug 2016   #15
d4g4m

windows 7 home premium 64
 
 

Have been using mail 11. Got the warning mail a few months ago. Got the error 3219 pop up today. Switched to imap/smtp sync today using the Ctrl-Shift-T wizard as suggested above. Works fine and I kept the old program mail.
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31 Aug 2016   #16
Chris Nicola

Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit SP1
 
 

Good to know WLM is working for you. Out of interest does the "Deleted Items" folder in WLM work properly on your system? If not, try renaming it to trash as explained in the update to my previous post.

Kind regards
Chris
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31 Aug 2016   #17
d4g4m

windows 7 home premium 64
 
 

^^^^^
'deleted' is working correctly.
Only thing I've noticed is that checking for mail is much slower than sync with outlook.
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