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Windows 7: Why do people say IE is slow?

30 Nov 2009   #11

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ignatzatsonic View Post
Dave:

Uh, I guess you missed the point of my post.

I use Firefox. Call me a zealot if you must.

I used to use IE.

If I were a "fanboi", I'd still be using IE.

Both browsers have issues.

Both brands have their zealots or fanbois or insert the synonym of your choice.

Parmee while I go study up on how to write more lucidly.
I wasn't calling anyone names, but rather made the point that you were, and quite needlessly, IMO. The fanboi comment I wrote was meant to illustrate the idiocy of name calling. ie, I was being ironic.

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30 Nov 2009   #12

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4. I cannot really reply to this one due to the fact that I'm not IT.
Not IT, but the IT media that I complain about. Here's a perfect, though a bit old now, example.

Note this headline from PCWorld: XP SP3 Bug Makes Some AMD PCs Crash. SP3 bug? You have to read the article to learn the problem is not with SP3, but HP not conforming to standards! How is that an SP3 bug? It's not. But the biased, unprofessional IT media uses sensationalism, and as seen here, lies to exploit the biases of MS bashers. That's not reporting the facts. And PC World is considered a reputable source. Note my comment, and their response to it. Oh wait. They did not bother to reply for they know they don't have a foot to stand on.

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To each his own
Exactly!

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So, you have chosen to characterize the millions of Firefox users as "zealots".
No! Don't be so defensive. You have fallen into the same trap. You took his comments out of context and you twisted the facts to read as though he was talking about ALL FF users. That is not what he said, and that is NOT true!

What is true that some very vocal FF users are very biased - even many of my colleagues who I otherwise have great respect for. Many frequently would suggest all IE users should switch to FF for no apparent reason, or to fix their connection problems, or worse yet, to be safe.

My favorite comeback to those few but very vocal FF users who are zealots is to ask this, "Who STOPPED getting infected simply by, and only by, switching to Firefox?" Of course none did. Why? Because they were not getting infected! They already were disciplined and kept their systems patched, updated, scanned with current anti-malware tools and blocked behind a firewall and usually a router too. The weakest link is never the browser of choice - it's the user and his lack of discipline.

Note I also said FF is an excellent browser.
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30 Nov 2009   #13

Win7
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Digerati View Post
Quote:
4. I cannot really reply to this one due to the fact that I'm not IT.
Not IT, but the IT media that I complain about. Here's a perfect, though a bit old now, example.

Note this headline from PCWorld: XP SP3 Bug Makes Some AMD PCs Crash. SP3 bug? You have to read the article to learn the problem is not with SP3, but HP not conforming to standards! How is that an SP3 bug? It's not. But the biased, unprofessional IT media uses sensationalism, and as seen here, lies to exploit the biases of MS bashers. That's not reporting the facts. And PC World is considered a reputable source. Note my comment, and their response to it. Oh wait. They did not bother to reply for they know they don't have a foot to stand on.

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To each his own
Exactly!

Quote:
So, you have chosen to characterize the millions of Firefox users as "zealots".
No! Don't be so defensive. You have fallen into the same trap. You took his comments out of context and you twisted the facts to read as though he was talking about ALL FF users. That is not what he said, and that is NOT true!

What is true that some very vocal FF users are very biased - even many of my colleagues who I otherwise have great respect for. Many frequently would suggest all IE users should switch to FF for no apparent reason, or to fix their connection problems, or worse yet, to be safe.

My favorite comeback to those few but very vocal FF users who are zealots is to ask this, "Who STOPPED getting infected simply by, and only by, switching to Firefox?" Of course none did. Why? Because they were not getting infected! They already were disciplined and kept their systems patched, updated, scanned with current anti-malware tools and blocked behind a firewall and usually a router too. The weakest link is never the browser of choice - it's the user and his lack of discipline.

Note I also said FF is an excellent browser.
The more basic question to ask is,"who cares what someone else is using?". I don't care what car, phone, browser, or toothpaste someone uses. It's all a waste of time to debate, especially from a defensive standpoint, what's "best", unless one happens to be the maker or seller of said products, in which case they have a vested interest in convincing folks that their product is superior.
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30 Nov 2009   #14

Win 8 Release candidate 8400
 
 

Again with the holy wars.

IE vs FF, vs, chrome

Mac vs PC

Ati vs Nvidia

etc, etc, etc

We all have our favorites. We all have seen these thread again and again, and again. I think some valid points were raised here just that no changed their browser just now.

Jump

Ken J
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30 Nov 2009   #15

Windows 7 Ultimate, OS X 10.7, Ubuntu 11.04
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by zigzag3143 View Post
Again with the holy wars.

IE vs FF, vs, chrome

Mac vs PC

Ati vs Nvidia

etc, etc, etc

We all have our favorites. We all have seen these thread again and again, and again. I think some valid points were raised here just that no changed their browser just now.

Jump

Ken J
You forgot AMD vs Intel
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30 Nov 2009   #16

Win7
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DarkNovaGamer View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by zigzag3143 View Post
Again with the holy wars.

IE vs FF, vs, chrome

Mac vs PC

Ati vs Nvidia

etc, etc, etc

We all have our favorites. We all have seen these thread again and again, and again. I think some valid points were raised here just that no changed their browser just now.

Jump

Ken J
You forgot AMD vs Intel
And let's not forget that there "must" be only one best brand of router. sigh.
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30 Nov 2009   #17

Windows 7 Profession 64-bit
 
 

That's true - but there can only be one brand of PC - mine!
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30 Nov 2009   #18

 

On some sites iE7 and iE8 hang badly where there's java, it's not knocking iE to say this is the case... it's simply a fact (and I was a devout iE person til' this laggy behaviour and freezing got so annoying I was forced to move onto a new browser...)

There's no point anyone going to war over this however...
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30 Nov 2009   #19

Windows 7 Profession 64-bit
 
 

It would be interesting to revisit those sites in compatibility mode and see if they still hang. Since Microsoft has finally seen the light and are now complying with Web Standards, instead of MS IE6 standards, it is interesting to see what sites tweaked their code to make IE6 perform better, that now break under IE8.

Since IE8 seems to work perfectly, and very quickly here, it makes you wonder where the problem actually was.
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30 Nov 2009   #20

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Digerati View Post
Since IE8 seems to work perfectly, and very quickly here, it makes you wonder where the problem actually was.
How does it make out here though?
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