| Windows 7: Why do people say IE is slow? |
30 Nov 2009
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Quote: Originally Posted by ignatzatsonic Dave:
Uh, I guess you missed the point of my post.
I use Firefox. Call me a zealot if you must.
I used to use IE.
If I were a "fanboi", I'd still be using IE.
Both browsers have issues.
Both brands have their zealots or fanbois or insert the synonym of your choice.
Parmee while I go study up on how to write more lucidly. I wasn't calling anyone names, but rather made the point that you were, and quite needlessly, IMO. The fanboi comment I wrote was meant to illustrate the idiocy of name calling. ie, I was being ironic. | My System Specs |
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30 Nov 2009
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#12 | | Windows 7 Profession 64-bit Nebraska, USA |
Quote: 4. I cannot really reply to this one due to the fact that I'm not IT. Not IT, but the IT media that I complain about. Here's a perfect, though a bit old now, example.
Note this headline from PCWorld: XP SP3 Bug Makes Some AMD PCs Crash. SP3 bug? You have to read the article to learn the problem is not with SP3, but HP not conforming to standards! How is that an SP3 bug? It's not. But the biased, unprofessional IT media uses sensationalism, and as seen here, lies to exploit the biases of MS bashers. That's not reporting the facts. And PC World is considered a reputable source.  Note my comment, and their response to it. Oh wait. They did not bother to reply for they know they don't have a foot to stand on. Exactly! Quote: So, you have chosen to characterize the millions of Firefox users as "zealots". No! Don't be so defensive. You have fallen into the same trap. You took his comments out of context and you twisted the facts to read as though he was talking about ALL FF users. That is not what he said, and that is NOT true!
What is true that some very vocal FF users are very biased - even many of my colleagues who I otherwise have great respect for. Many frequently would suggest all IE users should switch to FF for no apparent reason, or to fix their connection problems, or worse yet, to be safe.
My favorite comeback to those few but very vocal FF users who are zealots is to ask this, "Who STOPPED getting infected simply by, and only by, switching to Firefox?" Of course none did. Why? Because they were not getting infected! They already were disciplined and kept their systems patched, updated, scanned with current anti-malware tools and blocked behind a firewall and usually a router too. The weakest link is never the browser of choice - it's the user and his lack of discipline.
Note I also said FF is an excellent browser. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number BrightWorks Systems B4 OS Windows 7 Profession 64-bit CPU Intel Core i7-860 Quad Motherboard Gigabyte P55-UD4P Memory Mushkin 4x2Gb PC12800 Graphics Card Gigabyte GTX260 896Mb Sound Card Integrated 7.1 HD Dolby Monitor(s) Displays 2 Samsung 2220wm-HAS 22" Screen Resolution 1680 x 1050 | 1680 x 1050 Keyboard MS Wireless Comfort 5000 Mouse MS Wireless 5000 PSU Corsair TX-750W Case Ultra M998 Cooling OEM Hard Drives WD HE 1Tb Internet Speed Cable and pretty darn fast |
30 Nov 2009
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Quote: Originally Posted by Digerati Quote: 4. I cannot really reply to this one due to the fact that I'm not IT. Not IT, but the IT media that I complain about. Here's a perfect, though a bit old now, example.
Note this headline from PCWorld: XP SP3 Bug Makes Some AMD PCs Crash. SP3 bug? You have to read the article to learn the problem is not with SP3, but HP not conforming to standards! How is that an SP3 bug? It's not. But the biased, unprofessional IT media uses sensationalism, and as seen here, lies to exploit the biases of MS bashers. That's not reporting the facts. And PC World is considered a reputable source.  Note my comment, and their response to it. Oh wait. They did not bother to reply for they know they don't have a foot to stand on. Exactly! Quote: So, you have chosen to characterize the millions of Firefox users as "zealots". No! Don't be so defensive. You have fallen into the same trap. You took his comments out of context and you twisted the facts to read as though he was talking about ALL FF users. That is not what he said, and that is NOT true!
What is true that some very vocal FF users are very biased - even many of my colleagues who I otherwise have great respect for. Many frequently would suggest all IE users should switch to FF for no apparent reason, or to fix their connection problems, or worse yet, to be safe.
My favorite comeback to those few but very vocal FF users who are zealots is to ask this, "Who STOPPED getting infected simply by, and only by, switching to Firefox?" Of course none did. Why? Because they were not getting infected! They already were disciplined and kept their systems patched, updated, scanned with current anti-malware tools and blocked behind a firewall and usually a router too. The weakest link is never the browser of choice - it's the user and his lack of discipline.
Note I also said FF is an excellent browser. The more basic question to ask is,"who cares what someone else is using?". I don't care what car, phone, browser, or toothpaste someone uses. It's all a waste of time to debate, especially from a defensive standpoint, what's "best", unless one happens to be the maker or seller of said products, in which case they have a vested interest in convincing folks that their product is superior. | My System Specs | | |
30 Nov 2009
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#14 | | Win 8 Release candidate 8400 |
Again with the holy wars.
IE vs FF, vs, chrome
Mac vs PC
Ati vs Nvidia
etc, etc, etc
We all have our favorites. We all have seen these thread again and again, and again. I think some valid points were raised here just that no changed their browser just now.
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Ken J | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Pavillion dv-7 1005 Tx OS Win 8 Release candidate 8400 CPU 2@2.4 Memory 4 gigs Graphics Card Nvidia 9600M Sound Card HD built-in Monitor(s) Displays 17" Wxga Screen Resolution 1440x900 Cooling none Internet Speed 45Mb down 5Mb up |
30 Nov 2009
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#15 | | Windows 7 Ultimate, OS X 10.7, Ubuntu 11.04 Pembroke |

Quote: Originally Posted by zigzag3143 Again with the holy wars.
IE vs FF, vs, chrome
Mac vs PC
Ati vs Nvidia
etc, etc, etc
We all have our favorites. We all have seen these thread again and again, and again. I think some valid points were raised here just that no changed their browser just now.
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Ken J You forgot AMD vs Intel | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom | Whitebox OS Windows 7 Ultimate, OS X 10.7, Ubuntu 11.04 CPU Intel E6750 @ 3.80GHz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3L (Revision 1.1) Memory 2x2GB & 2x1GB (6GB) OCZ Reaper 1066MHz @ 1080MHz Graphics Card EVGA nVidia GTX 260 896mb (216 Core) FTW Edition Sound Card Realtek ALC888 Monitor(s) Displays 21" VIZIO TV Screen Resolution 1680x1050 @ 60Hz Keyboard Logitech Wireless S520 Mouse Logitech Wireless S520 - Microsoft Wireless Arc Mouse PSU Corsair 750W Case NZXT Nemesis Elite Cooling Thermaltake SpinQ Hard Drives Western Digital WD6401AALS - 640GB
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30 Nov 2009
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Quote: Originally Posted by DarkNovaGamer 
Quote: Originally Posted by zigzag3143 Again with the holy wars.
IE vs FF, vs, chrome
Mac vs PC
Ati vs Nvidia
etc, etc, etc
We all have our favorites. We all have seen these thread again and again, and again. I think some valid points were raised here just that no changed their browser just now.
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Ken J You forgot AMD vs Intel  And let's not forget that there "must" be only one best brand of router. sigh. | My System Specs | | |
30 Nov 2009
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#17 | | Windows 7 Profession 64-bit Nebraska, USA |
That's true - but there can only be one brand of PC - mine! | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number BrightWorks Systems B4 OS Windows 7 Profession 64-bit CPU Intel Core i7-860 Quad Motherboard Gigabyte P55-UD4P Memory Mushkin 4x2Gb PC12800 Graphics Card Gigabyte GTX260 896Mb Sound Card Integrated 7.1 HD Dolby Monitor(s) Displays 2 Samsung 2220wm-HAS 22" Screen Resolution 1680 x 1050 | 1680 x 1050 Keyboard MS Wireless Comfort 5000 Mouse MS Wireless 5000 PSU Corsair TX-750W Case Ultra M998 Cooling OEM Hard Drives WD HE 1Tb Internet Speed Cable and pretty darn fast |
30 Nov 2009
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#18 | | W7 x64 3rd Rock from the Sun |
On some sites iE7 and iE8 hang badly where there's java, it's not knocking iE to say this is the case... it's simply a fact (and I was a devout iE person til' this laggy behaviour and freezing got so annoying I was forced to move onto a new browser...)
There's no point anyone going to war over this however... | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom built machine OS W7 x64 CPU Intel Q9300 2.5Ghz Quad LGA775 (Would like Q9650) Motherboard Gigabyte GA-EP45T-UD3R (F6 Bios) Memory 4Gb OCZ Gold 1,333Mhz Graphics Card Palit HD4850 O/C Sonic 512Mb DDR3, Dual DViD's Sound Card Azalia to twin Samson 50w Studio Monitors Monitor(s) Displays Twin Dell (E-IPS) U2311H 23.6" Screens Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 @ 60Hz Keyboard Cherry PS/2 custom model Mouse Lenovo USB laser "Thinkpad" Mouse PSU OCZ 600w Case Lian-Li PC8 acoustifoamed' aluminium tower Cooling Scythe 140mm Zipang Hard Drives Crucial M4 SSD, archives on twin Western Digital Caviar Black WD2002FAEX, 2TB, 7200rpm HDD's, Samsung Ritemaster CD/DVD Burner... Internet Speed ADSL2+ @14Mbps downstream & Cat6 Gigabit Ethernet Antivirus NOD32 Browser Opera Other Info Silicon Dust HD Homerun Dual FTA (Ethernet) TV Tuners, Dray Tek Vigor 2850Vn router and 8x HP Gigabit Switch. Lian-Li CR26 Card Reader, Canon MF4430 iSensys laser printer/scanner. |
30 Nov 2009
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#19 | | Windows 7 Profession 64-bit Nebraska, USA |
It would be interesting to revisit those sites in compatibility mode and see if they still hang. Since Microsoft has finally seen the light and are now complying with Web Standards, instead of MS IE6 standards, it is interesting to see what sites tweaked their code to make IE6 perform better, that now break under IE8.
Since IE8 seems to work perfectly, and very quickly here, it makes you wonder where the problem actually was. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number BrightWorks Systems B4 OS Windows 7 Profession 64-bit CPU Intel Core i7-860 Quad Motherboard Gigabyte P55-UD4P Memory Mushkin 4x2Gb PC12800 Graphics Card Gigabyte GTX260 896Mb Sound Card Integrated 7.1 HD Dolby Monitor(s) Displays 2 Samsung 2220wm-HAS 22" Screen Resolution 1680 x 1050 | 1680 x 1050 Keyboard MS Wireless Comfort 5000 Mouse MS Wireless 5000 PSU Corsair TX-750W Case Ultra M998 Cooling OEM Hard Drives WD HE 1Tb Internet Speed Cable and pretty darn fast |
30 Nov 2009
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#20 | | W7 x64 3rd Rock from the Sun |

Quote: Originally Posted by Digerati Since IE8 seems to work perfectly, and very quickly here, it makes you wonder where the problem actually was. How does it make out here though? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom built machine OS W7 x64 CPU Intel Q9300 2.5Ghz Quad LGA775 (Would like Q9650) Motherboard Gigabyte GA-EP45T-UD3R (F6 Bios) Memory 4Gb OCZ Gold 1,333Mhz Graphics Card Palit HD4850 O/C Sonic 512Mb DDR3, Dual DViD's Sound Card Azalia to twin Samson 50w Studio Monitors Monitor(s) Displays Twin Dell (E-IPS) U2311H 23.6" Screens Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 @ 60Hz Keyboard Cherry PS/2 custom model Mouse Lenovo USB laser "Thinkpad" Mouse PSU OCZ 600w Case Lian-Li PC8 acoustifoamed' aluminium tower Cooling Scythe 140mm Zipang Hard Drives Crucial M4 SSD, archives on twin Western Digital Caviar Black WD2002FAEX, 2TB, 7200rpm HDD's, Samsung Ritemaster CD/DVD Burner... Internet Speed ADSL2+ @14Mbps downstream & Cat6 Gigabit Ethernet Antivirus NOD32 Browser Opera Other Info Silicon Dust HD Homerun Dual FTA (Ethernet) TV Tuners, Dray Tek Vigor 2850Vn router and 8x HP Gigabit Switch. Lian-Li CR26 Card Reader, Canon MF4430 iSensys laser printer/scanner. Why do people say IE is slow? problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:54 AM. | |