Flash Lag under Win7 - No lag on XP

MatthewH12

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Been trying to solve an issue for a friend of mine, and i'm stumped. They're running a Asus M3N78-VM with the integrated sound and video with a Athlon 64X2 5200+ and 3GB Ram. Everything works fine under XP, but upon upgrading to Windows 7 Ult (Tried both 32 and 64bit), anything that requires flash lags or stutters. The two main areas they notice it is with Hulu, and with some flash games.

The odd thing is it happens with a fresh install of W7 with the latest version of Adobe Flash Player, but when they reinstalled XP, the lag went away. They've tried both IE8 and FF 3.5.5, no difference. Another PC in the same house doesn't have the issue, so it's not the internet connection.

I'm totally stumped as to what it could be at this point, any ideas?

Thanks!
 

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I don't know about games, but with Hulu, try right clicking it screen once you have selected a program, and disable Use Hardware Acceleration.
 

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I don't know about games, but with Hulu, try right clicking it screen once you have selected a program, and disable Use Hardware Acceleration.

Already tried disabling Flash's HW Accel.
 

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Did they "clean" install Windows 7, or was it over the top of another OS (Vista)?
You really haven't given enough information to diagnose the problem.
32Bit or 64Bit?
 

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Did they "clean" install Windows 7, or was it over the top of another OS (Vista)?
You really haven't given enough information to diagnose the problem.
32Bit or 64Bit?

It was clean install (Can't upgrade XP to W7), they never had Vista, and we tried both 32Bit and 64Bit of W7, clean install every time.

--Matt
 

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Can you uninstall flash, reboot, then reinstall flash?
 

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Can you uninstall flash, reboot, then reinstall flash?

Tried it. =(
Even did a 100% fresh install of w7, nothing but latest flash from adobe.com, windows updates and latest drivers, same issue.

Could it somehow be the integrated GeForce 8200, or the integrated VIA Audio system? If so how can I test this, they don't have any spare parts. =(
 

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Been having the same problem

I've done some research online, and the consensus is, Flash Player has no business being online. It has become slower and more annoying in the last couple years and shouldn't be used to do anything. Let me just give you a few examples of why this is, other then the lag problems everyone is having with it.

Cache dumping of video already played. If you try to rewind to see something you just missed, it dumps the whole cache and you have to wait for it to load again. It dumps the cache every time it runs a commercial too.

if you so much as push a button while it is in full screen mode it exits full screen.

Choppy playback in full screen.

Menu options are a joke.

The fact of the matter is that there are much better, much less buggy media players online and they are under used. Even Youtube's very basic media player from a year ago is better then Flash's newest Version of Flashplayer. we need to find alternatives to this program. Hulu should give us the option of using Windows Media player or DivX if we want to. Flash Sucks.
 

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Any other things I can try?
 

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Got the same problem

I have the same problem. It's something between the interaction of Windows 7 and its media players. I've been looking for a solution all over but no one has anything that has worked. Microsoft needs to recognize this and make us some software! I have a problem running WMP, Hulu, and Megavideo.
 

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I can't say anything about the other two, but I have Hulu Desktop running great on my machine.
 

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No comments on flash issue, I just want to recommend Hulu Desktop to every Hulu user out there.

Nice and good looking interface, good quality, fast, even over here in Europe no problems with buffering though the US proxy I have to use slows down my connection to max 6 Mbps. Full screen stays full screen also when you click on the other display.

Kari
 

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It has too be your drivers. I'm experiencing the same thing with the official nVidia drivers but the problem is resolve if I use the one my manufacturer distributed (I use the nVidia ones since my OEM is outdated by 0.02 versions: 8.15 vs 8.17).
 

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I don't know where I read it but I installed directx 11 and this has fixed the lag issues with flash on windows 7
 

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