Windows 7: windows 7 warning for outlook express users

I had to move up, should I say down, to Windows 7 from XP a few weeks back. If I had the time, I would have a bought another XP computer, but I had to have one that day and a problem forced me to get Windows 7. Unfortunately, it's worse than XP in many ways and I can't believe MS did it again. They should have just built on XP. I could go on with all the things that are worse, but the biggest problem is Outlook Express is long gone. So here is a warning to all those who love OE.

I came from DOS and started with computers in 1988 and watched every system improve up through XP, then VISTA was a disaster and I see the same in Windows 7. This is why people are moving to Macs. But the biggest problem is having to use Outlook, which is far inferior to Outlook Express. Hard to believe but many actions take many extra moves.

Almost every action requires a few extra moves. Want to Copy messages to a folder - can't do it in the supposedly superior Outlook. Want to delete a file or even just move it to folder and then move it again. Sometimes, you can't undelete them or move them. I haven't figured out why but some message comes up that the message was already moved and you can't move it again. I could name a few dozen more operations, but the main thing is DON'T GET WINDOWS 7 if you can because you will hate Outlook. It has many options but can't do many things OE can. Outlook is like driving down the road in a motorhome, with every option in the world available and all you want is a good car with simple basic controls to get you around. Microsoft did it again.

I would pay a couple hundred dollars right now to have Outlook Express. Yes, I would buy it. MS just doesn't get it.

Does anyone know a great email program so I can trash Outlook?

Since Outlook doesn't come with any version of Windows, I miss your point.

You'll see prompts all the time because it's much more secure than XP, something you should be greatful for. XP will die in 2014 anyway, so look at it this way, your prepared for that.

You can download Windows Live Mail and use that, it's like a glorified OE anyway, or with a lot of jiggery-pokery you can get Vista Windows Mail, which is the successor to OE, working in Windows 7.

See this tutorial: Windows Mail

By the way, you can thank various Governments, US and EU for the missing "bits". It wasn't Microsoft's fault.

Yes - Windows 7 comes with Windows Live, but it has many failings compared to Outlook Express.

Correct that Oulook does not come with Windows 7, it comes with MS Office. But since Windows Live is nothing compared to Express, no one wants that, so you have to go to Outlook - especially if you want to import your Express emails.

I started with Outlook Express back when it started - a decade ago or so. At one point I considered moving to Outlook since it always came with Office, but I backed out after testing it. It's not as good and many steps require an extra move to do something. You would think Outlook would do what Express does but more, but Outlook is limited in many ways and can't do things Express can. It's actually inferior in many actions.

A simple example I gave earlier. You can't even Copy messages to a folder and sometimes when they've been moved once, you can't move them again, even some if you deleted them by mistake. Go to the Outlook forums. People complain these things happen with the supposedly superior program.

Live mail you can copy things to folders all day manually or automatically.

It really is just OE with a warmed over UI and seperate folders for each mail account, but all the functionality (that I ever used anyway) is the same.

This is the second thread in which you have posted this diatribe. So you don't like Outlook; that's OK. Download and install Thunderbird.

And Outlook does not come with Win 7; I think you are just grinding an axe against MS.

Definately recommend Thunderbird with the lightning add-in for the calendaring.
This is my choice for email. I just don't like the "LIVE" versions. I like to keep it close to home, but I am old fashioned and think it is MY email to do with it as I please.

I use this for email on XP machines as well as Windows 7 machines. Never did like the
Windows Live mail client that came with Vista.

I wish you good luck with your dilemma.

Windows Live Mail is the most user friendly email client ever. Plus it's one of the best feed reader software too.

Read the full article here.

1. Highlight the messages you want to copy.
2. Hold down Ctrl.
3. Drag messages to destination folder.
4. Job done.

This is normal Windows behaviour - drag to move, Ctrl-drag to copy - and it works fine in Outlook