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Windows 7: Crash Dump Initalization Failure

28 Jul 2010   #1

Windows 7 Ultimate
 
 
Crash Dump Initalization Failure

Hello,
I was hoping that someone could give me and idea of what a crash dump initialization failure was. What does it do it it did fail. Is it normal to get them in pairs multiple times a day. No explanation is given, nor further detail.
Thanks for any assistance.
glennc

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28 Jul 2010   #2
Microsoft MVP

Windows 7 Ultimate - 64-bit | Windows 8 Pro - 64-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by glennc View Post
Hello,
I was hoping that someone could give me and idea of what a crash dump initialization failure was. What does it do it it did fail. Is it normal to get them in pairs multiple times a day. No explanation is given, nor further detail.
Thanks for any assistance.
glennc
Hello Glennc ! Welcome to SF !

This happens if there is no enough space to save the crash dump in Virtual Memory. Follow this article and Virtual Memory Change the size of virtual memory the size should be atleast 4096 or let the Windows automatically assign it for you.

Hope this helps,
Captain
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28 Jul 2010   #3

Windows 7 Ultimate
 
 

Hello Capt.Jack Sparrow,
Thanks for coming to assist. Currently my virtual memory is 6144 MB. It is set to this size permanently. It was quite a bit over what Windows 7 automatically assigned. Does this info help? Appreciate all the help I can git!
glennc
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28 Jul 2010   #4
Microsoft MVP

Windows 7 Ultimate - 64-bit | Windows 8 Pro - 64-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by glennc View Post
Hello Capt.Jack Sparrow,
Thanks for coming to assist. Currently my virtual memory is 6144 MB. It is set to this size permanently. It was quite a bit over what Windows 7 automatically assigned. Does this info help? Appreciate all the help I can git!
glennc
Change it to Let Windows Choose option
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28 Jul 2010   #5

Windows 7 Ultimate
 
 

Back again,
Did as you suggested and it required a reboot. Now it show 5370 MB recommended and 3580 Currently Allocated. Is it possible that you could illuminate my darkness slightly. IMHO wouldn't a solid 6144 MB block be better that an automatically undersized amount. I am only asking as I don't understand.
Thanks for any clarification.
glennc
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28 Jul 2010   #6
Microsoft MVP

Windows 7 Ultimate - 64-bit | Windows 8 Pro - 64-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by glennc View Post
Back again,
Did as you suggested and it required a reboot. Now it show 5370 MB recommended and 3580 Currently Allocated. Is it possible that you could illuminate my darkness slightly. IMHO wouldn't a solid 6144 MB block be better that an automatically undersized amount. I am only asking as I don't understand.
Thanks for any clarification.
glennc
There are lot of misconception about the Page File and the sizing of it. Some says it the be the N times of the RAM etc. actually the it's the Commited Charge memory percentage which is required. But sometime the Kernel dump used to really huge that it won't fit into the Paging file. So we can't really say which size is the best. That's why we are letting the Windows to choose Just make sure
  1. Click Start, point to Settings, and then click Control Panel.
  2. Double-click System.
  3. Click the Advanced tab, and then click Settings under Startup and Recovery.
  4. In the Write debugging information list, click Small memory dump (64k).

    To change the folder location for the small memory dump files, type a new path in the Dump File box (or in the Small dump directory box, depending on your version of Windows)
Hope this helps,
Captain
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28 Jul 2010   #7

Windows 7 Ultimate
 
 

Hello Capt.Jack Sparrow,
As a complete newbie I claim ignorance. I use it often as it is true. When I went into Startup and Recovery (Windows 7 Ultimate 64 Bit), under System failure the "Write an event to the system log" was unchecked. The "Write debugging information" was set to NONE and the Dumpfile and overwrite existing file options were grayed out. So in light of my inexperience and a leap of faith, I checked the Write event to system log and set the write debug to Kernel memory dump. I left the file where it was. If there is a memory problem I can go to small memory dump (256K).
About the only thing I can't take a guess at is if I should leave the "Overwrite any existing file" checked or uncheck it.
Thanks a lot for showing me the great mystery that was so simply in front of my face.
glennc
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28 Jul 2010   #8
Microsoft MVP

Windows 7 Ultimate - 64-bit | Windows 8 Pro - 64-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by glennc View Post
About the only thing I can't take a guess at is if I should leave the "Overwrite any existing file" checked or uncheck it.
Thanks a lot for showing me the great mystery that was so simply in front of my face.
glennc
Glennc,

You could leave that option unchecked. So we will get multiple dumps which makes it more easy to troubleshoot. Your welcome

- Captain
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28 Jul 2010   #9

Windows 7 Ultimate
 
 

Hello and again Thanks,
Does leaving the overwrite off, indeed make new copies after each dump. The information in the dump, is it useful to me? Does Windows 7 have an interpretation gui for it? I mean if it is just a bunch of numbers it would only be useful to copy and paste on the forum for people of greater experience to divine out the information.
glennc
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28 Jul 2010   #10

64-bit Windows 8.1 Pro
 
 

It takes special debugging software to open the .dmp for analysis... Please upload them and we'll have a look..
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