| Windows 7: Systems runs in safe mode - Normal mode locks up |
29 Jul 2010
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Systems runs in safe mode - Normal mode locks up I have a HP Pavilion A6352c desktop pc. I have recently installed a clean copy on win 7. I have listed the issue I am having below. I hope you can assist me in getting this system to a stable state. 1. System locks up running in Normal Mode - I will take about 3 minutes before the entire system locks up, I have to do a hard shutdown when this happens. I can start the system in Normal mode, but only if I use the diagnostic startup option in MSConfig. I can enable some services, but I am in the process of trying to figure out which one is making it lockup. 2. The system will run fine under safe mode with networking and such. I have the normal startup option in msconfig enabled in safe mode and no issue except it's in Safe Mode! I have attached the requested documents/files in the attached zip file. I was unable to get the Perfmon report. I look forward to your response. Thanks in advance SCA | My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Pavilion a6357c Desktop PC OS Win 7 CPU Athlon 64 X2 (B) 5000+ 2.6 GHz (65W) - Motherboard ECS MCP61PM-HM - Nettle2-GL8E Memory 3GB - PC2-5300 MB/sec - 240 pin, DDR2 SDRAM Graphics Card Integrated graphics using nVidia GeForce 6150SE Sound Card Integrated Realtek ALC888S Audio Monitor(s) Displays Dell Hard Drives •500 GB SATA 3G (3.0 Gb/sec)
•7200 rpm |
29 Jul 2010
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The dumps are all over the map, but they all are having issues in amdk8.sys (the OS's CPU driver). What's really interesting is one of these dumps looks almost exactly the same as the issue that is documented in KB 975530, but that's for Intel CPUs running hyper-v. However, you * are* running into a watchdog timeout on the CPU (it's causing other drivers to crash and confuse analyze, but it's not that code's fault that the CPU stopped processing it's requests). This means you might have a bum core on that CPU when entering/exiting C-states. Try running this: reg add HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Processor /v Capabilities /t REG_DWORD /d 0x0007e066
Reboot, and see if it still causes problems in regular boot mode. Either way, you probably need to have that CPU looked at as a potential bad part.
Last edited by cluberti; 29 Jul 2010 at 05:06 PM..
| My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Z400 workstation OS Windows Server 2008 R2 CPU Intel Xeon 3550 @3.06GHz Motherboard HP Memory 16GB DDR3 Graphics Card Nvidia Quadro 600 Sound Card Realtek ALC262 Monitor(s) Displays 2x Hanns-G HG281 Screen Resolution 1920x1200 Keyboard Microsoft Natural Ergonomic Keyboard 7000 Mouse Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer 3.0 PSU HP Case HP Hard Drives 1x Samsung 160GB SSD
2x WD 1TB (RAID1) |
29 Jul 2010
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#3 | | Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 Florida in winter, Black Forest/Germany |
I would guess that one of your startups is on the blink. Disable them all including the AV (but stay off the net) and see what happens. If that works, you have to reenable them individually to find the culprit. The AV program is usually the first suspect - but not always. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops OS Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 CPU from 1.6GHz Duo to i7 Monitor(s) Displays 2x HP w2207 Keyboard with trackball - no mices Mouse Trackball mice Hard Drives 5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals Internet Speed DSL 6000 |
29 Jul 2010
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Thanks for the quick response. I tried the first suggestion....System still locking up. I think I will continue the process of elimination of these services to determine what one is causing the issue. Thanks! | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Pavilion a6357c Desktop PC OS Win 7 CPU Athlon 64 X2 (B) 5000+ 2.6 GHz (65W) - Motherboard ECS MCP61PM-HM - Nettle2-GL8E Memory 3GB - PC2-5300 MB/sec - 240 pin, DDR2 SDRAM Graphics Card Integrated graphics using nVidia GeForce 6150SE Sound Card Integrated Realtek ALC888S Audio Monitor(s) Displays Dell Hard Drives •500 GB SATA 3G (3.0 Gb/sec)
•7200 rpm |
30 Jul 2010
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You can do what you'd like, and I wish you well. I still say your CPU is failing coming in and out of C-States, and fiddling with running software isn't likely to fix that unless said software keeps the CPU from entering C-States  . | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Z400 workstation OS Windows Server 2008 R2 CPU Intel Xeon 3550 @3.06GHz Motherboard HP Memory 16GB DDR3 Graphics Card Nvidia Quadro 600 Sound Card Realtek ALC262 Monitor(s) Displays 2x Hanns-G HG281 Screen Resolution 1920x1200 Keyboard Microsoft Natural Ergonomic Keyboard 7000 Mouse Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer 3.0 PSU HP Case HP Hard Drives 1x Samsung 160GB SSD
2x WD 1TB (RAID1) |
30 Jul 2010
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Does the system still come out of C-States in safe mode? or running in a diagnostic startup? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Pavilion a6357c Desktop PC OS Win 7 CPU Athlon 64 X2 (B) 5000+ 2.6 GHz (65W) - Motherboard ECS MCP61PM-HM - Nettle2-GL8E Memory 3GB - PC2-5300 MB/sec - 240 pin, DDR2 SDRAM Graphics Card Integrated graphics using nVidia GeForce 6150SE Sound Card Integrated Realtek ALC888S Audio Monitor(s) Displays Dell Hard Drives •500 GB SATA 3G (3.0 Gb/sec)
•7200 rpm |
30 Jul 2010
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Looks like the Power service is causing the issuse. I have the system up and running now, following the info i found in the below link. Windows 7 freezes\locks up.
Thanks,
SCA | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Pavilion a6357c Desktop PC OS Win 7 CPU Athlon 64 X2 (B) 5000+ 2.6 GHz (65W) - Motherboard ECS MCP61PM-HM - Nettle2-GL8E Memory 3GB - PC2-5300 MB/sec - 240 pin, DDR2 SDRAM Graphics Card Integrated graphics using nVidia GeForce 6150SE Sound Card Integrated Realtek ALC888S Audio Monitor(s) Displays Dell Hard Drives •500 GB SATA 3G (3.0 Gb/sec)
•7200 rpm |
30 Jul 2010
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Safe mode or diagnostic mode would load a generic driver for the CPU, and it wouldn't be powering down in idle states like it would in a normal boot. That's a good thread to follow, though - let us know how it goes. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Z400 workstation OS Windows Server 2008 R2 CPU Intel Xeon 3550 @3.06GHz Motherboard HP Memory 16GB DDR3 Graphics Card Nvidia Quadro 600 Sound Card Realtek ALC262 Monitor(s) Displays 2x Hanns-G HG281 Screen Resolution 1920x1200 Keyboard Microsoft Natural Ergonomic Keyboard 7000 Mouse Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer 3.0 PSU HP Case HP Hard Drives 1x Samsung 160GB SSD
2x WD 1TB (RAID1) |
27 Oct 2010
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Bierra recaps my situation perfectly. Thanks Cluberti and WHS for your insight. So now that the Power service is disabled, I am good to go--without audio. Does this problem point to a problem with hardware that replacing the CPU would fix, or is it a software issue that would be resolved by reinstalling Windows 7? (I reinstalled Win 7 once and the problem seemed fixed for about a month. Thanks again for you help. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Windows 7 64 OS Windows 64 bit |
27 Oct 2010
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#10 | | Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 Florida in winter, Black Forest/Germany |

Quote: Originally Posted by baffled88 Bierra recaps my situation perfectly. Thanks Cluberti and WHS for your insight. So now that the Power service is disabled, I am good to go--without audio. Does this problem point to a problem with hardware that replacing the CPU would fix, or is it a software issue that would be resolved by reinstalling Windows 7? (I reinstalled Win 7 once and the problem seemed fixed for about a month. Thanks again for you help. It is pretty safe to assume that this is not a hardware issue - especially not with the CPU. Quote: I reinstalled Win 7 once and the problem seemed fixed for about a month This points to a "third party" throwing a monkey wrench into your system. Maybe a program that you installed at that time. Think hard what that could have been. If you find nothing, it will not be easy to track this down.
For that very reason I always recommend to do frequent imaging and to keep as many images as possible. Then you can go back in time and undo the damage. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops OS Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 CPU from 1.6GHz Duo to i7 Monitor(s) Displays 2x HP w2207 Keyboard with trackball - no mices Mouse Trackball mice Hard Drives 5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals Internet Speed DSL 6000 Systems runs in safe mode - Normal mode locks up problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:51 PM. | |