| Windows 7: Thoughts on Win 7 |
25 Aug 2010
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#1 | | 7 Home Premium 64 bit Wales |
Thoughts on Win 7 Hi,
I had XP for years, no problems, then the mb crashed and burnt, bought new PC with Win 7 about 3 weeks ago, in which time it has crashed (frozen) at least 30 times!!! It has improved since and the problem now is that after starting I can almost guarantee it will freeze on the 1st thing I click on. After re-booting it might still do it again and need another start or it might be ok, if it runs ok it will be ok all day & night, how strange. I need expert advice as to what it might be, if I return it to the shop they will charge me saying my software is a problem!! Can anyone help please. No exotic software is on the PC, just regular stuff. | My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number Desktop PC OS 7 Home Premium 64 bit CPU AMD Athlon II X4 635 Motherboard ASRock K10N78 Memory 4.0GB Dual-Channel DDR2 @ 400MHz Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 210 Sound Card SB Audigy Monitor(s) Displays M227WD @ 1360x768 Keyboard Standard PS/2 Keyboard Mouse Microsoft PS/2 Mouse PSU 400w Case Tower Cooling Normal fans Hard Drives 488GB Western Digital WDC WD5000AAKS-00V1A0 ATA Device (IDE) Internet Speed around 100 kbs Other Info PC is store bought 10.07.2010 |
25 Aug 2010
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#2 | | Win 8 Release candidate 8400 |

Quote: Originally Posted by Rogerc Hi,
I had XP for years, no problems, then the mb crashed and burnt, bought new PC with Win 7 about 3 weeks ago, in which time it has crashed (frozen) at least 30 times!!! It has improved since and the problem now is that after starting I can almost guarantee it will freeze on the 1st thing I click on. After re-booting it might still do it again and need another start or it might be ok, if it runs ok it will be ok all day & night, how strange. I need expert advice as to what it might be, if I return it to the shop they will charge me saying my software is a problem!! Can anyone help please. No exotic software is on the PC, just regular stuff. 
As you no doubt know by now freezing isnt usually caused by hardware. Freezes such as this are often caused by conflicts in software, too little ram, and many other things.
Several things you can try
1-run a system file check to verify and repair your system files
(type cmd in search>right click and run as admin>SFC /SCANNOW)
Let us know the results
2-check event viewer (type eventvwr in search). go to the windows log>application tab. Look for critical errors (they have red in the left hand column) that say app hang, app crash, or anything related to the problem.
When you find them note the event ID and source codes and tell us hat they are.
3-boot into safe mode (with networking). Does it still do it then? If not it is probably a software conflict.
4- go into device manager (type device manager in search). Are there any "unknown drivers" with yellow question marks on them?
Let us know the answers
Ken | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Pavillion dv-7 1005 Tx OS Win 8 Release candidate 8400 CPU 2@2.4 Memory 4 gigs Graphics Card Nvidia 9600M Sound Card HD built-in Monitor(s) Displays 17" Wxga Screen Resolution 1440x900 Cooling none Internet Speed 45Mb down 5Mb up |
25 Aug 2010
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#3 | | 7 Home Premium 64 bit Wales |
Thanks ZigZag for the tips, although I have used computers since the Sinclar ZX81 I have never got into the nuts and bolts of the PC so I might be a bit slow in getting the answers you asked for, good job I've got all day.
Roger | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Desktop PC OS 7 Home Premium 64 bit CPU AMD Athlon II X4 635 Motherboard ASRock K10N78 Memory 4.0GB Dual-Channel DDR2 @ 400MHz Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 210 Sound Card SB Audigy Monitor(s) Displays M227WD @ 1360x768 Keyboard Standard PS/2 Keyboard Mouse Microsoft PS/2 Mouse PSU 400w Case Tower Cooling Normal fans Hard Drives 488GB Western Digital WDC WD5000AAKS-00V1A0 ATA Device (IDE) Internet Speed around 100 kbs Other Info PC is store bought 10.07.2010 |
25 Aug 2010
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#4 | | Win 8 Release candidate 8400 |

Quote: Originally Posted by Rogerc Thanks ZigZag for the tips, although I have used computers since the Sinclar ZX81 I have never got into the nuts and bolts of the PC so I might be a bit slow in getting the answers you asked for, good job I've got all day.
Roger 
Roger let us know if you need help. Had some experience with the sinclar myself {grin} | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Pavillion dv-7 1005 Tx OS Win 8 Release candidate 8400 CPU 2@2.4 Memory 4 gigs Graphics Card Nvidia 9600M Sound Card HD built-in Monitor(s) Displays 17" Wxga Screen Resolution 1440x900 Cooling none Internet Speed 45Mb down 5Mb up |
25 Aug 2010
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#5 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 + x86 + Windows 8 x64 Newport, South Wales, UK |
The old adage in windows always was that 90% of freezes are due to graphics issues - normally the driver not always the case and depending on where the system was purchased there may be a lot of start-up items that are not needed ( the famous Bloatware syndrome with the major OEM suppliers).
I would, After following ken's advice, check if there is a later driver for the graphics available on the graphics manufacturer's site.
I would also check what items are in start-up, as you say if the system is OK after initial start-up, it runs OK for a while it may be that two or more start-up items are clashing.
And with me it was the ZX80 | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Real World Computing (Me + a little help from Acer) OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 + x86 + Windows 8 x64 CPU AMD Phenom II X6 1035T 2.6 GHz Motherboard Aspire M3400 Memory 4Gb PC10600 DDR3 1333 MHz Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 315 512MB Sound Card OnBoard - Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Philips 32" HDTV, (HDMI) + 26" TV (VGA) Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 @60Hz + 1360 x 768 @60Hz Keyboard Microsoft Wireless 800 or Stock Acer, (depends where I sit) Mouse Microsoft Wireless 800 or Stock Acer, (depends where I sit) PSU Stock (400W) Case Acer M3400 Cooling Stock Hard Drives 500 GB Seagate ST3500418AS SATA II
1 TB Hitachi HDS5C1010CLA382 SATAII
1 TB Samsung Spinpoint F1 HD103SI SATA II (external)
Plus various other (client ) HDDs as needed Internet Speed Temporaray 3G Dongle Antivirus Avast Browser Chrome Other Info USB Capture + Webcam(s) Bamboo Digitizer tablet
Also run Acer AspireOne 530h Netbook, Dual Core Atom + 1GB (Win7 Ult x86) Plus various test systems for new projects |
26 Aug 2010
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#6 | | 7 Home Premium 64 bit Wales |
Hi,
I have so far run sfc/scannow, no integrity problems. I next checked device manager, no yellow warnings on anything. I next checked event manager, there are lots of critical events the most recent is EV41 kernal power, happens between 2 to 6 times a day and has happened 88 times since the PC was built. I have not had a conclusive test yet with safe mode due to fat fingers but will try again and let you know results.
Roger | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Desktop PC OS 7 Home Premium 64 bit CPU AMD Athlon II X4 635 Motherboard ASRock K10N78 Memory 4.0GB Dual-Channel DDR2 @ 400MHz Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 210 Sound Card SB Audigy Monitor(s) Displays M227WD @ 1360x768 Keyboard Standard PS/2 Keyboard Mouse Microsoft PS/2 Mouse PSU 400w Case Tower Cooling Normal fans Hard Drives 488GB Western Digital WDC WD5000AAKS-00V1A0 ATA Device (IDE) Internet Speed around 100 kbs Other Info PC is store bought 10.07.2010 |
26 Aug 2010
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#7 | | 7 Home Premium 64 bit Wales |
Update. Windows found a new Nvidia driver, this made it worse (more crashes) so I rolled back to the old driver. I have changed start-up to "Selective start-up load system services only", will see if that does any good. IE8 has crashed twice this evening, switching to Firefox. Will XP run on my machine if I/we cannot get Windows 7 sorted? I never had any problems at all with XP, bless it. I have hidden all pills and tablets etc. just in case I am tempted. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Desktop PC OS 7 Home Premium 64 bit CPU AMD Athlon II X4 635 Motherboard ASRock K10N78 Memory 4.0GB Dual-Channel DDR2 @ 400MHz Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 210 Sound Card SB Audigy Monitor(s) Displays M227WD @ 1360x768 Keyboard Standard PS/2 Keyboard Mouse Microsoft PS/2 Mouse PSU 400w Case Tower Cooling Normal fans Hard Drives 488GB Western Digital WDC WD5000AAKS-00V1A0 ATA Device (IDE) Internet Speed around 100 kbs Other Info PC is store bought 10.07.2010 |
26 Aug 2010
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#8 | | Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 Florida in winter, Black Forest/Germany |
Something seems to be on the blink in your graphics. I would bring the thing back and ask for a new one or my money back. I have not had a single blue screen on 3 Windows7 machines in over 6 months. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops OS Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 CPU from 1.6GHz Duo to i7 Monitor(s) Displays 2x HP w2207 Keyboard with trackball - no mices Mouse Trackball mice Hard Drives 5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals Internet Speed DSL 6000 |
26 Aug 2010
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#9 | | |
PSU Before bringing it back, do you have access to a bigger PSU? 400 watts seems awful low with a graphics card that can use 300 watts. Between the CPU and Graphics card, you may be running out of power.
Just my 2 cents worth. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self Built OS Windows 7 Home Premium CPU Intel Core 2 Duo E8200 2.66 ghz Motherboard MSI P7N SLI Platinum Memory Crucial / 4GB / DDR2 PC2-5300 Graphics Card eVGA GeForce GTX 275 - 896 MB - DDR3 SDRAM Sound Card Onboard Monitor(s) Displays Samsung 24in LCD PSU Corsair CMPSU-750HX 750-Watt PSU Case NZXT M59 Cooling Zalman CNPS 9700 and five 120mm case fans Hard Drives WD Caviar 320GB SATA-3G HD 7200/16MB/SATA-3G |
27 Aug 2010
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#10 | | |
Usually kernel-power warnings, if they're not telling you the system crashed, are telling you there's a hardware issue. What specifically are you seeing in your kernel-power errors? If the entire OS is freezing, that's not good. There are ways to test if it's hardware or software, but it requires a PS/2 keyboard (not a USB one). | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Z400 workstation OS Windows Server 2008 R2 CPU Intel Xeon 3550 @3.06GHz Motherboard HP Memory 16GB DDR3 Graphics Card Nvidia Quadro 600 Sound Card Realtek ALC262 Monitor(s) Displays 2x Hanns-G HG281 Screen Resolution 1920x1200 Keyboard Microsoft Natural Ergonomic Keyboard 7000 Mouse Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer 3.0 PSU HP Case HP Hard Drives 1x Samsung 160GB SSD
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