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Windows 7: BSoD on first Startup!!

25 Aug 2010   #1

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 
BSoD on first Startup!!

Hey, recently started building a new PC and i'm running into weirdest combo of crashes ever..Installed Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit with no problems. The problem I'm having is if my pc has been turned off for roughly 4 hours, it boots up and gets to the Desktop then I get a BSoD and it restarts... On first bootup I always get a message from CCC "Catalyst Control Centre has stopped Working".. I've tried different known working version of CCC and still same issue

Now the weird thing is that if I my system reboots after this it runs fine... for days even without any errors. I'm unable to replicate this error immediately, only way is to turn system off and leave it off for 4hours~. I've tried turning off the system, removing the power cable and discharging the power left in system. However the problem doesn't happen again unless I leave the pc off for ~4hrs.

System Specs:
AMD Phenom II x4 955BE
Crosshair IV Formula 890FX
2x2gb Ripjaws 1333Mhz
ATI Radeon HD 4750
2x 500GB Seagate HDDs
Coolermaster GX 750W PSU
Coolermaster HAF X Case

Everything is brand new out of the box except the GPU.. I've not bothered to get a new one since I can't even get the system to run stable and it's driving me insane!!!!

I've run memtest on ram for 2days straight and 0 errors.
I've reinstalled OS probably around 3-4 times and updated all drivers.
Changed the PSU to an old 550Watt Coolermaster and same problem
Updated BIOS of MOBO.
I know for a fact that the GPU, PSU, HDDs and CPU are working 100% since I swapped the MOBO and RAM to an older MOBO and RAM(DDR2) and then I have absolutely no problems.

When I took the RAM and MOBO back to retailer they told me it's a Driver/Software related issue yet the bluescreen errors I'm getting are:
PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA
CACHE_MANAGER
MEMORY_MANAGEMENT

So yeah I'm quite lost on what to do next... I have a fair bit of background with PCs but this puzzles me and several other people.

Any help would be greatly appreciated..
Thanks

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25 Aug 2010   #2

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25 Aug 2010   #3

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

will post when i get home, got referred here form friend didn't look at that before sorry
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25 Aug 2010   #4

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26 Aug 2010   #5

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

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26 Aug 2010   #6

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

any ideas on this? been thinking just to take new MOBO and RAM and ask for money back
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26 Aug 2010   #7

Microsoft Window 7 Professional 32 bit
 
 

The symptom is weird.
If it is under warranty, I would go for it if I were you. However, let's try some simple things first:
In looking through your drivers, I see that you have AVG anti virus installed. AVG is known to cause BSOD, on some systems. I suggest that you uninstall it while trouble shooting using the uninstall tool > Info > Tool (32bit) - Tool (64 bit). If you have AVG Identity Protection installed, uninstall it also >Info > Tool. I recommend that you install MSE and make sure Windows Firewall is turned on.

Update this driver:
Code:
amdide64 amdide64.sys Fri Oct 12 08:40:08 2007 (470ED078)
amdxata  amdxata.sys  Wed May 20 00:56:59 2009 (4A12F2EB)
They should have date from July 2009. Make sure to enable WINDOW UPDATE.

Please Uninstall the Catalyst Control Center, install the graphic driver only.
If you have problem with startup computer, performing a cleanboot would be a good idea:
How to troubleshoot a problem by performing a clean boot in Windows Vista or in Windows 7

BUGCHECK SUMMARY:
Code:
Microsoft (R) Windows Debugger Version 6.12.0002.633 X86
Copyright (c) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.


Loading Dump File [C:\Users\TUANTR~1\AppData\Local\Temp\Rar$DI00.256\082610-17300-01.dmp]
Mini Kernel Dump File: Only registers and stack trace are available

Symbol search path is: SRV*e:\symbols*http://msdl.microsoft.com/download/symbols
Executable search path is: 
Windows 7 Kernel Version 7600 MP (4 procs) Free x64
Product: WinNt, suite: TerminalServer SingleUserTS
Built by: 7600.16617.amd64fre.win7_gdr.100618-1621
Machine Name:
Kernel base = 0xfffff800`02a17000 PsLoadedModuleList = 0xfffff800`02c54e50
Debug session time: Thu Aug 26 12:55:19.000 2010 (UTC + 7:00)
System Uptime: 0 days 0:01:40.311
Loading Kernel Symbols
...............................................................
................................................................
.......................
Loading User Symbols
Loading unloaded module list
....
*******************************************************************************
*                                                                             *
*                        Bugcheck Analysis                                    *
*                                                                             *
*******************************************************************************

Use !analyze -v to get detailed debugging information.

BugCheck 1A, {41284, 7fefeb36001, 0, fffff70001080000}

Probably caused by : ntkrnlmp.exe ( nt! ?? ::FNODOBFM::`string'+4a83 )

Followup: MachineOwner
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Regard,

Tuan
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27 Aug 2010   #8

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Sweet thanks for the info! I removed AVG using the tool, restarted system and installed MSE. Also checked that Windows firewall is turned on. Only thing to do now is to wait till tomorrow morning and switch it on... Hoping for the best.
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28 Aug 2010   #9

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

shit no bluescreen today!! I'm quite suprised that it could be AVG tbh.. I'm using that exact install file on 3 other PCs here in the house and copied them all from exact same HDD. But it seem to have done something aye will monitor it for next couple of days and let you know.
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28 Aug 2010   #10

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Spoke to soon... Soon as I try to open an Application BSoD.. ntfs.sys error. Maybe faulty HDD? or can this still be from MOBO or RAM?
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