| Windows 7: BSOD 8 in 2 days |
10 Sep 2010
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#1 | | 7 Ultimate x64, Windows 7 Enterprise x64 Third Rock From the Sun |
BSOD 8 in 2 days For some reason, I saw the BSOD instructions just now, so I did what it said (hopefully correctly). My laptop miraculously stopped crashing, but I want to know what happened so I dont make a complete fool out of my self in front of the repair people (again) the next time it happens. If I remember correctly from what it said on the screen, my graphics card driver nvlddmkm.sys failed, but updating the driver did nothing
My laptop:
Windows 7 Enterprise x64
OEM
Age of hardware: 2 weeks
Age of software: since i have used it, 2 weeks. When it was actually installed, i dont know | My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number Self Built, Lenovo T410 OS 7 Ultimate x64, Windows 7 Enterprise x64 CPU Intel Q6600 @ 3.33 GHz, Intel i5 @ 2.53 GHz Motherboard ASUS P5Q Pro, Lenovo 2522DY1 Memory OCZ Gold 800 4GB, Some sort of RAM 4GB Graphics Card GeForce GT240, NVIDA NVS 3100M Monitor(s) Displays H213H Screen Resolution 1900 x 1080, 1440 x 900 Mouse Logitec G9x, Ultranav PSU ISO-450 Case Sunbeam ACIII-T Transparent Clear Acrylic ATX Mid Tower Cooling Spin Q Hard Drives Seagate 2 Tb
Seagate 160 Gb
WD 750 Gb, HITACHI 500GB Other Info EDIMAX EW-7811Un Wireless Nano Adapter |
10 Sep 2010
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#2 | | Win 8 Release candidate 8400 |

Quote: Originally Posted by calccrypto For some reason, I saw the BSOD instructions just now, so I did what it said (hopefully correctly). My laptop miraculously stopped crashing, but I want to know what happened so I dont make a complete fool out of my self in front of the repair people (again) the next time it happens. If I remember correctly from what it said on the screen, my graphics card driver nvlddmkm.sys failed, but updating the driver did nothing
My laptop:
Windows 7 Enterprise x64
OEM
Age of hardware: 2 weeks
Age of software: since i have used it, 2 weeks. When it was actually installed, i dont know
There were no dmp files enclosed please re-run as admin
Ken J | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Pavillion dv-7 1005 Tx OS Win 8 Release candidate 8400 CPU 2@2.4 Memory 4 gigs Graphics Card Nvidia 9600M Sound Card HD built-in Monitor(s) Displays 17" Wxga Screen Resolution 1440x900 Cooling none Internet Speed 45Mb down 5Mb up |
10 Sep 2010
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#3 | | 7 Ultimate x64, Windows 7 Enterprise x64 Third Rock From the Sun |
weird, i did run it as admin, and thats all i have. would it have been deleted by ccleaner? i run it every so often | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self Built, Lenovo T410 OS 7 Ultimate x64, Windows 7 Enterprise x64 CPU Intel Q6600 @ 3.33 GHz, Intel i5 @ 2.53 GHz Motherboard ASUS P5Q Pro, Lenovo 2522DY1 Memory OCZ Gold 800 4GB, Some sort of RAM 4GB Graphics Card GeForce GT240, NVIDA NVS 3100M Monitor(s) Displays H213H Screen Resolution 1900 x 1080, 1440 x 900 Mouse Logitec G9x, Ultranav PSU ISO-450 Case Sunbeam ACIII-T Transparent Clear Acrylic ATX Mid Tower Cooling Spin Q Hard Drives Seagate 2 Tb
Seagate 160 Gb
WD 750 Gb, HITACHI 500GB Other Info EDIMAX EW-7811Un Wireless Nano Adapter |
10 Sep 2010
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#4 | | 7 Ultimate x64, Windows 7 Enterprise x64 Third Rock From the Sun |
i ran it again, but no dmp file anywhere. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self Built, Lenovo T410 OS 7 Ultimate x64, Windows 7 Enterprise x64 CPU Intel Q6600 @ 3.33 GHz, Intel i5 @ 2.53 GHz Motherboard ASUS P5Q Pro, Lenovo 2522DY1 Memory OCZ Gold 800 4GB, Some sort of RAM 4GB Graphics Card GeForce GT240, NVIDA NVS 3100M Monitor(s) Displays H213H Screen Resolution 1900 x 1080, 1440 x 900 Mouse Logitec G9x, Ultranav PSU ISO-450 Case Sunbeam ACIII-T Transparent Clear Acrylic ATX Mid Tower Cooling Spin Q Hard Drives Seagate 2 Tb
Seagate 160 Gb
WD 750 Gb, HITACHI 500GB Other Info EDIMAX EW-7811Un Wireless Nano Adapter |
23 Sep 2010
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#5 | | Windows 7 Professional x64 Rednecksville |
Hello calccrypto,
Correct, there are no dumps in that report. Instead, I looked through the event logs, and found several BSODs.
Most were 0x50; quite commonly a memory problem, but that is to be taken lightly.
One was a 0x101, a CPU error. Are you doing any overclocking on your laptop? Of course, it can be software-related as well, but in combination with the 0x50s...
Apparently the OS was installed on 8/29/2010. Guess when the first BSOD occurred? Code: Event[20268]:
Log Name: System
Source: Microsoft-Windows-WER-SystemErrorReporting
Date: 2010-08-29T23:06:31.000
Event ID: 1001
Task: N/A
Level: Error
Opcode: N/A
Keyword: Classic
User: N/A
User Name: N/A
Computer: leej32T410-PC
Description:
The computer has rebooted from a bugcheck. The bugcheck was: 0x00000050 (0xfffff8800f2edbd0, 0x0000000000000000, 0xfffff88004ef7f8b, 0x0000000000000002). A dump was saved in: C:\Windows\MEMORY.DMP. Report Id: 082910-24476-01. I advise you to return the laptop ASAP.
That means the machine bluescreened likely before it was even sold. Completely unacceptable, make use of the warranty.
I'm guessing the CPU is bad, but in light of the nVidia BSOD, it could also be graphics card. If the motherboard is bad, it could explain all this as well.
SevenForums has some handy tutorials for hardware testing, if you are interested.
Video card: Video Card - Stress Test with Furmark
CPU: http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials...t-prime95.html
RAM: RAM - Test with Memtest86+
If returning the laptop is not possible, you can try to remove potential software causes, it can't hurt to try.
I notice Semantec is installed, a major cause. Remove it with this tool: ftp://ftp.symantec.com/public/englis...moval_Tool.exe
Microsoft Security Essentials is the recommended replacement.
Good luck with all of this!
-Lancaster | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom OS Windows 7 Professional x64 CPU Intel i7 2600K OC'd @ 4620 MHz Motherboard Asus P8Z68-V Pro Memory 16GB GSkill Sniper 2133 Mhz (4x4GB) Graphics Card EVGA GeForce GTX 480 SuperClocked+ Sound Card Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays 2x Acer S273HLbmii 27" Screen Resolution 2 x 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech MK320 (wireless) Mouse Logitech MK320 (wireless) PSU Corsair HW Series 750w (modular) Case Cooler Master HAF 932 Advanced Blue Edition Cooling CM Hyper 212+ CPU cooler, 3x 230mm + 1x 140mm case fans Hard Drives 64GB Crucial M4 SSD
Storage: Hitachi 1TB 5400RPM, Samsung 1.5TB 5400RPM Internet Speed 30 Mb/s : 2 Mb/s |
23 Sep 2010
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#6 | | 7 Ultimate x64, Windows 7 Enterprise x64 Third Rock From the Sun |
Thanks Lancaster!
attached is a new dump from a crash i had this morning. i ran the bsod program before running ccleaner. i have no idea if this new copy is "better" or not. i think it has something to do with the graphics card (nvlddmkm.sys 10x).
I actually went to my school's computer repair place, and all they did was get mad at me. they still tested it, and found nothing, after supposedly two weeks of benchmarking.
i should change to mse, but i spent a bundle on the computer, and feel like its a waste to uninstall it. maybe i might. some people i know have gone crazy and installed mse, avg, as well as malwarebytes because they didnt know they have Semantec, and their computers are completely trouble free (until i use them: i crashed a laptop by pressing the space bar...)
i dont know if this counts as overclocking, but intel turboboost is installed by default, and if necessary, the cpu will jump from 2.53 to 2.97 ghz. otherwise, i have only looked at the bios, but not touched it. i havent run any super intensive programs on my laptop yet, other than superpi on 1mb twice. i will be running prime95 on it later
maybe i should get my laptop reimaged? should i get everything back, or should i get a clean copy of windows 7? on one hand, i would love to. on another, i want some of the programs that were installed, and the techies are not able/allowed to install them individually for some reason or another
and how do you run memtest? it seems like i have to put it on a separate drive of some sort, and it will wipe the drive during installation. isnt there any standalone version of it?
how hot do laptops run while running prime 95? mine is running at 85C. thats hotter than my pc that i managed to overclock to 3.11ghz
Last edited by calccrypto; 23 Sep 2010 at 09:33 PM..
| My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self Built, Lenovo T410 OS 7 Ultimate x64, Windows 7 Enterprise x64 CPU Intel Q6600 @ 3.33 GHz, Intel i5 @ 2.53 GHz Motherboard ASUS P5Q Pro, Lenovo 2522DY1 Memory OCZ Gold 800 4GB, Some sort of RAM 4GB Graphics Card GeForce GT240, NVIDA NVS 3100M Monitor(s) Displays H213H Screen Resolution 1900 x 1080, 1440 x 900 Mouse Logitec G9x, Ultranav PSU ISO-450 Case Sunbeam ACIII-T Transparent Clear Acrylic ATX Mid Tower Cooling Spin Q Hard Drives Seagate 2 Tb
Seagate 160 Gb
WD 750 Gb, HITACHI 500GB Other Info EDIMAX EW-7811Un Wireless Nano Adapter |
24 Sep 2010
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#7 | | Windows 7 Professional x64 Rednecksville |
Well the truth is, your computer is not generating minidumps. Rather, it is overwriting the large memory.dmp file each time.
If you want, you can upload that for us, but I don't have high hopes for it at all. If you want to upload it, it can be found in C:\Windows. Be sure to compress it first, to reduce the size from ~300MB to ~80.
You'll need to use a 3rd-party site, such as Rapidshare.
Still, I highly doubt I can find anything useful in it, other than a quick way to find outdated drivers. For that, I can use the driverq_v.txt or driverq_fo.txt files in the report.
To run Memtest, put it on a CD or USB Drive. See Part 1: RAM - Test with Memtest86+
85C...that's actually quite hot. Laptop CPUs are designed to operate under higher temperatures, but not that hot. Of course, that is not a fair test, because you were running Prime95.
Since the BSODs started on the day the OS was installed, I would suspect the hardware is defective. Highly doubtful reimaging will help, as the BSODs started before software is a major player.
Create a system image now: Backup Complete Computer - Create an Image Backup
First thing Lenovo is going to do is wipe it and reinstall Windows, but we are 99.9% sure that will not help anything. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom OS Windows 7 Professional x64 CPU Intel i7 2600K OC'd @ 4620 MHz Motherboard Asus P8Z68-V Pro Memory 16GB GSkill Sniper 2133 Mhz (4x4GB) Graphics Card EVGA GeForce GTX 480 SuperClocked+ Sound Card Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays 2x Acer S273HLbmii 27" Screen Resolution 2 x 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech MK320 (wireless) Mouse Logitech MK320 (wireless) PSU Corsair HW Series 750w (modular) Case Cooler Master HAF 932 Advanced Blue Edition Cooling CM Hyper 212+ CPU cooler, 3x 230mm + 1x 140mm case fans Hard Drives 64GB Crucial M4 SSD
Storage: Hitachi 1TB 5400RPM, Samsung 1.5TB 5400RPM Internet Speed 30 Mb/s : 2 Mb/s |
24 Sep 2010
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#8 | | 7 Ultimate x64, Windows 7 Enterprise x64 Third Rock From the Sun |
After running prime95 for an entire night, the highest temp it reached was 96C. its maintaining about 90 right now. My mousepad is ridiculously hot. would stress testing invalidate my warranty?
I cant seem to find memory.dmp in c:\windows.
I would run memtest and create an image, but i dont have any disks with me at all and i dont want to buy a bunch of them just for this one backup. my flashdrives are quite large, so copying the info out and then back in later would take a lot of time. And windows 7 refuses to let me create a backup on my harddrive, which has over 300 gb empty. would that be because it is programmed like that, or did lenovo do something silly?
Last edited by calccrypto; 24 Sep 2010 at 07:08 AM..
| My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self Built, Lenovo T410 OS 7 Ultimate x64, Windows 7 Enterprise x64 CPU Intel Q6600 @ 3.33 GHz, Intel i5 @ 2.53 GHz Motherboard ASUS P5Q Pro, Lenovo 2522DY1 Memory OCZ Gold 800 4GB, Some sort of RAM 4GB Graphics Card GeForce GT240, NVIDA NVS 3100M Monitor(s) Displays H213H Screen Resolution 1900 x 1080, 1440 x 900 Mouse Logitec G9x, Ultranav PSU ISO-450 Case Sunbeam ACIII-T Transparent Clear Acrylic ATX Mid Tower Cooling Spin Q Hard Drives Seagate 2 Tb
Seagate 160 Gb
WD 750 Gb, HITACHI 500GB Other Info EDIMAX EW-7811Un Wireless Nano Adapter |
24 Sep 2010
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#9 | | Windows 7 Professional x64 Rednecksville |
You cannot save a system image to its own drive. That is a Windows feature designed to keep you from losing all if the hard drive fails.
Stress testing should not invalidate the warranty. You don't have to mention that you did it, but no need to lie if they ask.
Go ahead and stop the test now, if you haven't already. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom OS Windows 7 Professional x64 CPU Intel i7 2600K OC'd @ 4620 MHz Motherboard Asus P8Z68-V Pro Memory 16GB GSkill Sniper 2133 Mhz (4x4GB) Graphics Card EVGA GeForce GTX 480 SuperClocked+ Sound Card Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays 2x Acer S273HLbmii 27" Screen Resolution 2 x 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech MK320 (wireless) Mouse Logitech MK320 (wireless) PSU Corsair HW Series 750w (modular) Case Cooler Master HAF 932 Advanced Blue Edition Cooling CM Hyper 212+ CPU cooler, 3x 230mm + 1x 140mm case fans Hard Drives 64GB Crucial M4 SSD
Storage: Hitachi 1TB 5400RPM, Samsung 1.5TB 5400RPM Internet Speed 30 Mb/s : 2 Mb/s |
24 Sep 2010
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#10 | | 7 Ultimate x64, Windows 7 Enterprise x64 Third Rock From the Sun |
Ah. I'll plug in my backup then.
The stress test actually stopped already. Weirdly enough, there were no errors despite the high temps | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self Built, Lenovo T410 OS 7 Ultimate x64, Windows 7 Enterprise x64 CPU Intel Q6600 @ 3.33 GHz, Intel i5 @ 2.53 GHz Motherboard ASUS P5Q Pro, Lenovo 2522DY1 Memory OCZ Gold 800 4GB, Some sort of RAM 4GB Graphics Card GeForce GT240, NVIDA NVS 3100M Monitor(s) Displays H213H Screen Resolution 1900 x 1080, 1440 x 900 Mouse Logitec G9x, Ultranav PSU ISO-450 Case Sunbeam ACIII-T Transparent Clear Acrylic ATX Mid Tower Cooling Spin Q Hard Drives Seagate 2 Tb
Seagate 160 Gb
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