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Windows 7: BSODs all the times (During Boot, during Windows, IRQL, Driver IRQL)

12 Oct 2011   #11
Kangaxx1980

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Yesterday night I had an idea. A weeks ago I changed my power supply unit to a smaller one because my normal one did break.
I thought that perhaps I have to less power to use my PC propperly so I borrowed me another big PSU. My Windows ran the whole night, without problems. Prime did not find any error.
BUT: this morning I wanted to use my PC as normal and now again. BSOD over BSOD.
No chance to get the verifier working.

Now I am trying to do another virus scan. This time I use a Knoppix Live OS. This should be able to find everything.


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12 Oct 2011   #12
usasma
Microsoft MVP

 
 

Are the BSOD's happening with the old (weak) PSU? If so, borrow the big PSU and see if it stops. If it does, then it's most likely the PSU that's the problem.
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12 Oct 2011   #13
Kangaxx1980

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

As I said. Big PSU is on duty since yesterday. After an error free night my Windows is back to old unstable behavior.

Funny:
Using the recovery console from CD -> sometimes BSOD
Using Knoppix Live CD -> sometimes system freezes

Perhaps a hardware failure at all.
But what?
CPU test = negative
HDD test = negative
RAM test = negative
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12 Oct 2011   #14
usasma
Microsoft MVP

 
 

Run Driver Verifier according to these instructions for a minimum of 36 hours (computer operating time):
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Using Driver Verifier is an iffy proposition. Most times it'll crash and it'll tell you what the driver is. But sometimes it'll crash and won't tell you the driver. Other times it'll crash before you can log in to Windows. If you can't get to Safe Mode, then you'll have to resort to offline editing of the registry to disable Driver Verifier.

So, I'd suggest that you first backup your stuff and then make sure you've got access to another computer so you can contact us if problems arise. Then make a System Restore point (so you can restore the system using the Vista/Win7 Startup Repair feature).

Then, here's the procedure:
- Go to Start and type in "verifier" (without the quotes) and press Enter
- Select "Create custom settings (for code developers)" and click "Next"
- Select "Select individual settings from a full list" and click "Next"
- Select everything EXCEPT FOR "Special Pool" and "Low Resource Simulation" and click "Next"
NOTE: You can use Low Resource Simulation if you'd like. From my limited experimentation it makes the BSOD's come faster.
- Select "Select driver names from a list" and click "Next"
Then select all drivers NOT provided by Microsoft and click "Next"
- Select "Finish" on the next page.

Reboot the system and wait for it to crash to the Blue Screen. Continue to use your system normally, and if you know what causes the crash, do that repeatedly. The objective here is to get the system to crash because Driver Verifier is stressing the drivers out. If it doesn't crash for you, then let it run for at least 36 hours of continuous operation (an estimate on my part).

Reboot into Windows (after the crash) and turn off Driver Verifier by going back in and selecting "Delete existing settings" on the first page, then locate and zip up the memory dump file and upload it with your next post.

If you can't get into Windows because it crashes too soon, try it in Safe Mode.
If you can't get into Safe Mode, try using System Restore from your installation DVD to set the system back to the previous restore point that you created.

If that doesn't work, post back and we'll have to see about fixing the registry entry off-line:
Code:
Delete these registry keys to stop Driver Verifier from loading (works in XP, Vista, Win7):
        HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\Memory Management\VerifyDrivers
        HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\Memory Management\VerifyDriverLevel
More info on this at this link: Using Driver Verifier to identify issues with Windows drivers for advanced users
Check to make sure that nothing is overheating. Wait for it to freeze with the Knoppix, unplug from the wall and open the case. Hold onto metal of case while feeling around inside the case. DO NOT TOUCH anything - only get near it - it can burn you!

Also, plug in the system and make sure that the fans are all working and that the coolers are free of dust bunnies. Check the caps on the mobo to ensure that none of them have burst.
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13 Oct 2011   #15
Kangaxx1980

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

As I said. No chance. I can't use windows atm because of BSODs.
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13 Oct 2011   #16
usasma
Microsoft MVP

 
 

Try this then...
Quote:
Check to make sure that nothing is overheating. Wait for it to freeze with the Knoppix, unplug from the wall and open the case. Hold onto metal of case while feeling around inside the case. DO NOT TOUCH anything - only get near it - it can burn you!

Also, plug in the system and make sure that the fans are all working and that the coolers are free of dust bunnies. Check the caps on the mobo to ensure that none of them have burst.
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15 Oct 2011   #17
Kangaxx1980

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Nothing is more than warm.
All four fans are working.
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15 Oct 2011   #18
usasma
Microsoft MVP

 
 

Did you run malware scans as I suggested earlier? If so, and if they came out clean, then there's nothing else evident.
As such I'd have to suggest that you do the following:
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For testing purposes, it's best to install Windows "clean".
This is, basically, installing it the way that Microsoft intended (using drivers from Windows Update).
This procedure is for Windows 7, Vista is similar (but has 2 service packs)

You will need your installation/recovery DVD(s) before you start. Once you wipe the hard drive there's no going back!!!

1. Backup all your data.
This will wipe everything off of your hard drive, so anything that you want to keep will need to be saved elsewhere.

2. Connect the system to the internet (if the system says disconnect from the Internet, then do so).
3. Use DBAN ( DBAN Download | Darik's Boot And Nuke ) or KillDisk ( Freeware Download Active@ KillDisk ) to wipe the entire hard drive (both are free). This will also delete any recovery partitions on the system - so the intallation/recovery DVD's are essential!!!
4. Install Windows by booting from the installation/recovery DVD - DO NOT tweak any settings!!!
5. Visit Windows Update and get all updates
6. Visit Windows Update and get Service Pack 1 (usually under Important Updates). Read these notes for installing SP1: Steps to follow before you install Windows 7 Service Pack 1 from the Microsoft Download Center
7. Visit Windows Update and get any other available updates
8. Check Device Manager for any unknown/disabled devices - if there are unknown/disabled devices, fix them with the latest drivers from the device manufacturer's website (not the PC Manufacturer)
9. Download, install, and update a free antivirus so you don't get infected while testing ( Free AntiVirus ).

If the problems persist, then the problem is most likely with your hardware.

CAVEAT: If you have an Asus motherboard, check the date on the C:\Windows\System32\driver\ASACPI.sys file. 2004/2005 is a problem, 2009,2010 is OK. Updates are available at the Asus support website.
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18 Oct 2011   #19
Kangaxx1980

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

My system allways did crash before complete scan.
I did wipe the HDD = no malware atm.
My suggestion is that my mobo is broken. I got another one and now I am trying to install a system image from earlier this month. Perhaps the whole problem is solved now. I am going to inform you of the results later this day.
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18 Oct 2011   #20
Kangaxx1980

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

It seems to be stable now. I am doing some more tests (stressing, malware, viruses) but it seem the source of all evil was really my mobo.
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