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Windows 7: Windows startup BSOD loop, Safemode -ok


26 Oct 2011   #1

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
 
 
Windows startup BSOD loop, Safemode -ok

I recently built a new computer. It was working great until I tried messing around with the overclock settings.

I had my i7-2600k+ overclocked to 5000 mhz on my asus p8z68-v pro. It would boot windows, but while I ran windows my asus overclocker ap`s probe II was saying the vcore power was unstable, despite cpu being only 28C =((, so I tried declocking my pc to the point where it would be sufficiently overclocked but stable. Eventually, I got sick of restarting my comp 50 times while I slowly declocked it to find a stable power setting, and wanted to just play a game or my new rig. I am pulling these numbers out of my ass, but I think I had my ram near 1680mhz and cpu 4600 mhz. I guess it still wasn`t stable because when I started up assassins creed I played for about 15 min before crashing to a BSOD. I also want to add the UBI soft launcher did apply some patch to my system before launching the game, but probably not causing the current problem.

My problem:
Ever since it crashed from playing assassins creed, when I went to launch windows it would start to load it and crash to a BSOD or it would freeze and never start. the BSOD errors were mostly 0xE1 errors.

I then declocked my system to defaults and tried and still crashed to BSODs. I got:

Stop: 0x0000007f (0x0000000000000008, 0x0000000080050050031, 0x00000000000006f8, 0xfffff88001f8a0ca)

NTFS.sys - address: fffff88001f8a0ca base at fffff88001e57000

along with more 0xE1 errors that I actualy wrote down this time,

Stop: 0x00000001e (0xffffffffc0000005, 0xffff8000c0d712b, 0,000000000000000, 0x000000000000000)

Since changing the bios didnt seem to work and I got a NTFS.sys error I figured maybe I had a bad kernel in windows. I then reinstalled windows and it continued to crash to BSOD and after a while I started to get 0x000000124 errors indicating hardware fault.


Since 0xE1, 0x7f, 0x124 all have memory problems listed as possible causes I ran windows memory diagnostic all night and it didnt show any errors. I also tried memory86 and it also didnt show any errors but I only ran it once and a 1/2 this time.

Because both tests check the ram and it seemed to be okay I started to look else where. I noticed during this time my bios stoped restarting after saving changed settings. The bios would save and screen would go dark but the system wouldnt shut off or restart, the screen would just stay blank.

Every time I start up my computer it post would tell me overclocking has failed and I need to check the bios. Once in bios I could not save or It wouldnt reset and just sit there. I would have to not save and exit in order to access my hard drive or dvd in my disk drive.

Because of this strange behavior I began to strongly suspect my bios being corrupt. I had updated it, so it could be the reason behind the bsods. I tried updating it again after redownloading the bios rom (installed from inside bios). I even loaded the lastest beta drivers. Resetting the Cmos doesnt seem to do anything. I unplugged the cord each time I reset the jumper. I also pulled out the battery and waited 30 min hoping it would wipe it self. Instead it seems I can clear the system times and the saved settings but not the version of the bios. I tried to load older drivers and it told me they were out dated. So I have tried using multiple (newly) downloaded bios roms, but windows and the strange features or not restarting after bios update persists.

Sometimes when I go to turn my computer on the fans and LEDs light up but my screen remains dark. I need to turn the power on a few times to get post. If the post continues to fail to load. I need to press and hold the ram check button on the mother board that forces it to restart and sync the ram frequencies, and then it will load post.

Because of this strange feature makes me thing the ram might be bad anyways because your computer will not display an image on the screen if there is no ram. I have 16 gigs of ram and I have tried pulling them out and only using 1 4gig stick at a time but same problem. And its harder to start since I have to resync the ram frequencies everytime with one stick because I cannot save my bios.

When I reinstalled windows the first time, I used a different computer to install it to the HD. Because my intended hd for this comp was rma`ed back, and at the time I didn`t have my dvd drive yet. because my intended drive was faulty, I was using my laptops sata drive since the beginning. After my rma`ed drive returned I tried to install windows on that, but it crashes to 0x124 before it finish loading the setup, startup files. Since the beginning, however, using my laptops harddrive I could boot to windows in safe mode, but crash to bsod 0x124 when I launched it normal.

In the end its either my bios, ram, or maybe I fried the L1 or L2 cash in my cpu... I have no idea please help! I cannot tell you how big of headache this have given me.... on the bright side I learned more about my bios and overclocking then I ever had wanted too.

Can someone help? Or at least tell me what the first 2 BSOD meant? My hope is if I can figure out what those are errors are I can track downwhich hardware part is at fault

My System SpecsSystem Spec
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26 Oct 2011   #2

Win 8 Release candidate 8400
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Nordom View Post
I recently built a new computer. It was working great until I tried messing around with the overclock settings.

I had my i7-2600k+ overclocked to 5000 mhz on my asus p8z68-v pro. It would boot windows, but while I ran windows my asus overclocker ap`s probe II was saying the vcore power was unstable, despite cpu being only 28C =((, so I tried declocking my pc to the point where it would be sufficiently overclocked but stable. Eventually, I got sick of restarting my comp 50 times while I slowly declocked it to find a stable power setting, and wanted to just play a game or my new rig. I am pulling these numbers out of my ass, but I think I had my ram near 1680mhz and cpu 4600 mhz. I guess it still wasn`t stable because when I started up assassins creed I played for about 15 min before crashing to a BSOD. I also want to add the UBI soft launcher did apply some patch to my system before launching the game, but probably not causing the current problem.

My problem:
Ever since it crashed from playing assassins creed, when I went to launch windows it would start to load it and crash to a BSOD or it would freeze and never start. the BSOD errors were mostly 0xE1 errors.

I then declocked my system to defaults and tried and still crashed to BSODs. I got:

Stop: 0x0000007f (0x0000000000000008, 0x0000000080050050031, 0x00000000000006f8, 0xfffff88001f8a0ca)

NTFS.sys - address: fffff88001f8a0ca base at fffff88001e57000

along with more 0xE1 errors that I actualy wrote down this time,

Stop: 0x00000001e (0xffffffffc0000005, 0xffff8000c0d712b, 0,000000000000000, 0x000000000000000)

Since changing the bios didnt seem to work and I got a NTFS.sys error I figured maybe I had a bad kernel in windows. I then reinstalled windows and it continued to crash to BSOD and after a while I started to get 0x000000124 errors indicating hardware fault.


Since 0xE1, 0x7f, 0x124 all have memory problems listed as possible causes I ran windows memory diagnostic all night and it didnt show any errors. I also tried memory86 and it also didnt show any errors but I only ran it once and a 1/2 this time.

Because both tests check the ram and it seemed to be okay I started to look else where. I noticed during this time my bios stoped restarting after saving changed settings. The bios would save and screen would go dark but the system wouldnt shut off or restart, the screen would just stay blank.

Every time I start up my computer it post would tell me overclocking has failed and I need to check the bios. Once in bios I could not save or It wouldnt reset and just sit there. I would have to not save and exit in order to access my hard drive or dvd in my disk drive.

Because of this strange behavior I began to strongly suspect my bios being corrupt. I had updated it, so it could be the reason behind the bsods. I tried updating it again after redownloading the bios rom (installed from inside bios). I even loaded the lastest beta drivers. Resetting the Cmos doesnt seem to do anything. I unplugged the cord each time I reset the jumper. I also pulled out the battery and waited 30 min hoping it would wipe it self. Instead it seems I can clear the system times and the saved settings but not the version of the bios. I tried to load older drivers and it told me they were out dated. So I have tried using multiple (newly) downloaded bios roms, but windows and the strange features or not restarting after bios update persists.

Sometimes when I go to turn my computer on the fans and LEDs light up but my screen remains dark. I need to turn the power on a few times to get post. If the post continues to fail to load. I need to press and hold the ram check button on the mother board that forces it to restart and sync the ram frequencies, and then it will load post.

Because of this strange feature makes me thing the ram might be bad anyways because your computer will not display an image on the screen if there is no ram. I have 16 gigs of ram and I have tried pulling them out and only using 1 4gig stick at a time but same problem. And its harder to start since I have to resync the ram frequencies everytime with one stick because I cannot save my bios.

When I reinstalled windows the first time, I used a different computer to install it to the HD. Because my intended hd for this comp was rma`ed back, and at the time I didn`t have my dvd drive yet. because my intended drive was faulty, I was using my laptops sata drive since the beginning. After my rma`ed drive returned I tried to install windows on that, but it crashes to 0x124 before it finish loading the setup, startup files. Since the beginning, however, using my laptops harddrive I could boot to windows in safe mode, but crash to bsod 0x124 when I launched it normal.

In the end its either my bios, ram, or maybe I fried the L1 or L2 cash in my cpu... I have no idea please help! I cannot tell you how big of headache this have given me.... on the bright side I learned more about my bios and overclocking then I ever had wanted too.

Can someone help? Or at least tell me what the first 2 BSOD meant? My hope is if I can figure out what those are errors are I can track downwhich hardware part is at fault


We do need the DMP file as it contains the only record of the sequence of events leading up to the crash, what drivers were loaded, and what was responsible.

You may be able to get the DMP files without crashing by booting into safe mode (F8) with networking.

To enable us to assist you with your computer's BSOD symptoms, upload the contents of your "\Windows\Minidump" folder.

The procedure:

* Copy the contents of \Windows\Minidump to another (temporary) location somewhere on your machine.
* Zip up the copy.
* Attach the ZIP archive to your post using the "paperclip" (file attachments) button.
*If the files are too large please upload them to a file sharing service like "Rapidshare" and put a link to them in your reply.


To ensure minidumps are enabled:

* Go to Start, in the Search Box type: sysdm.cpl, press Enter.
* Under the Advanced tab, click on the Startup and Recovery Settings... button.
* Ensure that Automatically restart is unchecked.
* Under the Write Debugging Information header select Small memory dump (256 kB) in the dropdown box (the 256kb varies).
* Ensure that the Small Dump Directory is listed as %systemroot%\Minidump.
* OK your way out.
* Reboot if changes have been made.

ALSO I WOULD STOP OC'ING TILL STABLE.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
27 Oct 2011   #3

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
 
 

I have uploaded the minidump zip. Please note that only the files created in from October 20th on pertain to the new system. Since this hard drive is from this laptop that I am currently using a few BSOD might be from when I transfered my hard drive back to the laptop and it would crash to bsod until I repaired it.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
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27 Oct 2011   #4

Win 8 Release candidate 8400
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Nordom View Post
I have uploaded the minidump zip. Please note that only the files created in from October 20th on pertain to the new system. Since this hard drive is from this laptop that I am currently using a few BSOD might be from when I transfered my hard drive back to the laptop and it would crash to bsod until I repaired it.

Two things


1-ASACPI.SYS

The pre 2009 version of this driver is a known BSOD cause.

Please visit this link: ASUS teK Computer Inc. -Support- Drivers and Download P7P55D LE
ASUSTeK Computer Inc. -Support- Drivers and Download P7P55D LE

Scroll down to the Utilities category, then scroll down to the "ATK0110 driver for WindowsXP/Vista/Windows 7 32&64-bit" (it's about the 12th item down).
Download and install it.
Go to C:\Windows\System32\drivers to check and make sure that the ASACPI.SYS file is date stamped from 2009 or 2010 (NOT 2005).


2-these were Related to AsIO.sys System service from ASUS. I would update to latest version
My System SpecsSystem Spec
28 Oct 2011   #5

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
 
 

This did not solve the problem, I cannot even load windows install files when booting from windows disc to install on a blank hard drive. I did try the drivers you recommended but I still crashed with the same BSOD as before. Please not have an Asus p8z68 v pro mb on the computer I am trying to solve the bsod, not the mb what ever you recommended the drivers for.

Since it doesnt seem to be a windows diver does it mean my mb is bad?

also it didnt seem windows collected and reports in minidump when I tried the drivers
My System SpecsSystem Spec
28 Oct 2011   #6

Win 8 Release candidate 8400
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Nordom View Post
This did not solve the problem, I cannot even load windows install files when booting from windows disc to install on a blank hard drive. I did try the drivers you recommended but I still crashed with the same BSOD as before. Please not have an Asus p8z68 v pro mb on the computer I am trying to solve the bsod, not the mb what ever you recommended the drivers for.

Since it doesnt seem to be a windows diver does it mean my mb is bad?

also it didnt seem windows collected and reports in minidump when I tried the drivers

ALll Asus use the same driver updates. If you cant bood into safe mode it may be hardware but in the beginning you could. what else have you changed or added
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