BSOD While playing League of Legends / World of Warcraft.

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  1. Posts : 26
    Windows 7 Ultimate x64
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       #11

    Waited a few days now, have tested memory and hdd.
    They both turn out good.
    I had like 9 bsod's the last 2 or 3 days.
    Only 1 could be found in the minidump map wich is normally 4.
    Added the rar file with the bsod info.
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  2. Posts : 5,705
    Win7 x64 + x86
       #12

    Pointing more and more at hardware. Please run the rest of the hardware diagnostics on this page: Hardware Diags

    In particular, run the CPU stress tests and Prime95 first - I have to wonder if there's a processor issue here (due to the blame being placed on amdppm.sys several times).

    aabed2.sys driver (from ABN AMRO e.dentifier2 Smart Card Reader) is still installed. Please uninstall it and remove the device from your system.

    BSOD BUGCHECK SUMMARY
    Code:
    
    Loading Dump File [C:\Users\FUBAR\_jcgriff2_\dbug\__Kernel__\011012-16875-01.dmp]
    Built by: 7601.17640.amd64fre.win7sp1_gdr.110622-1506
    Debug session time: Tue Jan 10 07:05:43.724 2012 (UTC - 5:00)
    System Uptime: 0 days 4:23:07.943
    Probably caused by : amdppm.sys ( amdppm!C1Halt+2 )
    DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID:  VISTA_DRIVER_FAULT
    BUGCHECK_STR:  0xA
    PROCESS_NAME:  System
    FAILURE_BUCKET_ID:  X64_0xA_amdppm!C1Halt+2
    Bugcheck code 0000000A
    Arguments fffff100`05e37698 00000000`0000000d 00000000`00000000 fffff800`02c9ff7f
    BiosVersion = P1.90
    BiosReleaseDate = 05/13/2010
    จจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจ``
      
      
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  3. Posts : 26
    Windows 7 Ultimate x64
    Thread Starter
       #13

    Hello again, sadly.
    I did Prime95 Test today, sticked around for a while, and had a different BSOD then the others this time.
    Prime95 did 12 tests ( the moar for ram test ) and i was watching Speedfan while it was testing.
    Everything came up to about 78-82 Celcius and all of the sudden a BSOD occured.

    I will add the most recent BSOD's.
    Does Prime95 also make some file saying what is the problem with my hardware ?
    I think we narrowed it down to CPU / RAM.


    Edit @ 15-20 minutes later.
    I had a bsod after posting this, restarted and tried opening Google Chrome and instantly got a bsod again.
    Last edited by Snukkeh; 13 Jan 2012 at 14:02. Reason: 2 bsod's occured
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  4. Posts : 5,705
    Win7 x64 + x86
       #14

    78-82 Celcius is too hot for your CPU. I'd suggest checking the cooling solution to see what's not working.

    Prime95 is a memory stress test, so it's either the memory in your CPU, the controller on your mobo, or the RAM.
    To figure out, run each of the Prime95 tests (Blend, Small FFT's and Large FFT's). Let us know which has the errors first, and which has the errors last (or not at all).

    Also run the CPU Stress Test in order to see if other problems arise with the CPU.

    BSOD BUGCHECK SUMMARY
    Code:
    
    Loading Dump File [C:\Users\FUBAR\_jcgriff2_\dbug\__Kernel__\011312-23906-01.dmp]
    Built by: 7601.17640.amd64fre.win7sp1_gdr.110622-1506
    Debug session time: Fri Jan 13 13:57:23.160 2012 (UTC - 5:00)
    System Uptime: 0 days 0:01:02.378
    BugCheck D1, {fffff88000bf171c, 2, 8, fffff88000bf171c}
    Probably caused by : Unknown_Image ( ANALYSIS_INCONCLUSIVE )
    DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID:  VISTA_DRIVER_FAULT
    BUGCHECK_STR:  0xD1
    PROCESS_NAME:  msnmsgr.exe
    Bugcheck code 000000D1
    Arguments fffff880`00bf171c 00000000`00000002 00000000`00000008 fffff880`00bf171c
    BiosVersion = P1.90
    BiosReleaseDate = 05/13/2010
    จจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจ``
    Loading Dump File [C:\Users\FUBAR\_jcgriff2_\dbug\__Kernel__\011312-21250-01.dmp]
    Built by: 7601.17640.amd64fre.win7sp1_gdr.110622-1506
    Debug session time: Fri Jan 13 13:55:47.844 2012 (UTC - 5:00)
    System Uptime: 0 days 2:50:22.047
    Probably caused by : ntkrnlmp.exe ( nt!KiSystemCall64+17 )
    BUGCHECK_STR:  0x1E_c000001d
    DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID:  VISTA_DRIVER_FAULT
    PROCESS_NAME:  Wow.exe
    FAILURE_BUCKET_ID:  X64_0x1E_c000001d_BAD_IP_nt!KiSystemCall64+17
    Bugcheck code 0000001E
    Arguments ffffffff`c000001d fffff800`02cc6c57 00000000`00000000 00000000`0cfbfd00
    BiosVersion = P1.90
    BiosReleaseDate = 05/13/2010
    จจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจ``
    Loading Dump File [C:\Users\FUBAR\_jcgriff2_\dbug\__Kernel__\011312-17359-01.dmp]
    Built by: 7601.17640.amd64fre.win7sp1_gdr.110622-1506
    Debug session time: Fri Jan 13 11:04:40.451 2012 (UTC - 5:00)
    System Uptime: 0 days 1:35:50.669
    *** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for aswSnx.SYS
    *** ERROR: Module load completed but symbols could not be loaded for aswSnx.SYS
    Probably caused by : aswSnx.SYS ( aswSnx+307c )
    DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID:  VISTA_DRIVER_FAULT
    BUGCHECK_STR:  0x50
    PROCESS_NAME:  svchost.exe
    FAILURE_BUCKET_ID:  X64_0x50_aswSnx+307c
    Bugcheck code 00000050
    Arguments fffffa7f`93f1415c 00000000`00000001 fffff880`0100307c 00000000`00000007
    BiosVersion = P1.90
    BiosReleaseDate = 05/13/2010
    จจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจจ``
      
      
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  5. Posts : 26
    Windows 7 Ultimate x64
    Thread Starter
       #15

    been trying out different settings on the computer.
    Done all the tests, still fails at all tests, and mostly at the ram tests.
    So i removed 4gb of ram, still had BSOD's. Moved them to the 2 other banks, still bsod's.
    Did the same thing with the other memory, still BSOD's. So i can conclude that my memory is fine and that either te controller on the motherboard is having issues or my processor is cooked up .

    Maybe something is to read troughout these 12 bsod's since 17 januari 2012 till now.
    How do i test the controller on the mobo specifically ? And what if its that whats causing it ?
    I shudv never gone to Asrock in the first place
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  6. Posts : 5,705
    Win7 x64 + x86
       #16

    You can test the memory controller by running all 3 of the tests in Prime95
    Make sure that you note the time it takes for each one to error.

    Link to download it is here: Hardware Diags

    More info and discussion here:
    DRAFT Prime95 testing procedure
    This is in case you are getting errors in Prime95 and want to nail down the cause

    Run HDD diag and MemTest prior to Prime95

    Run Blend test - log the time that it took to error (or not, as the case may be)
    Run Inplace Large FFT's test - log the time that it took to error (or not, as the case may be)
    Run Small FFT's test - log the time that it took to error (or not, as the case may be)

    Run CPU Stress Tests
    - http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Deta...19182&lang=eng
    - 7Byte : Hot CPU Tester Pro
    - 7Byte : BurnIn64
    - CPU Stress test
    - Fossil Free Online CPU Load or Stress Test.
    - CPU Stability Test description, System Resources Tune-Up Downloads List By All Time Popularity | PCWorld | PCWorld
    - CPU Stress test
    - |MG| CPU Stability Test 6.0 Download
    - LinX - A simple Linpack interface

    Run Video Stress Tests
    - FurMark: VGA Stress Test, Graphics Card and GPU Stability Test, Burn-in Test, OpenGL Benchmark and GPU Temperature | oZone3D.Net
    - ะœะ˜ะ NVIDIA / ะฃั‚ะธะปะธั‚ั‹ / VMT
    - ะœะ˜ะ NVIDIA / ะฃั‚ะธะปะธั‚ั‹ / Artifact Locator

    Swap RAM sticks around per Steps 7 through 10 of this link and run Prime95 (in Blend mode) on each stick/slot: Memory Diagnostics
    This is because of issues found in this topic: https://www.sevenforums.com/crashes-d...ml#post1076674
    ************************
    DISCUSSION:
    Small FFT's test CPU cache and very little memory.
    Large FFT's access' a lot of memory - but in-place option keeps it limited
    Blend is not run in-place, so it cycles the tests through a lot of RAM

    All tests stress the CPU
    In-place large FFT's and Blend also test CPU/RAM interface (mobo in all but Athlon64 and Intel i-series)
    - This would then be testing the memory controller onboard the CPU in the Athlon64 and i-series processors
    In-place large FFT's stress CPU more than Blend
    MemTest is better at testing RAM

    Prime 95 tests 3 things:
    - Memory
    - CPU/RAM interface (mobo in all but Athlon64 and Intel i-series)
    - CPU

    FWIW - the distinction between RAM and different types of memory in the system is one that I've made. The documentation that I've read speaks of RAM issues and CPU cache - and doesn't mention the other aspects. BUT, this is just speculation on my part, so we'll have to see how it works for us.
    Link to explanation about i-series CPU/RAM interface: Intel Core - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Common features of all Nehalem based processors include an integrated DDR3 memory controller as well as QuickPath Interconnect or PCI Express and Direct Media Interface on the processor replacing the aging quad-pumped Front Side Bus used in all earlier Core processors.
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  7. Posts : 26
    Windows 7 Ultimate x64
    Thread Starter
       #17

    Hey there.
    I runned Small FFTs ( Maximum FPU stress, data fits in L2 cache, RAM not tested much ).
    It did 16 tests in 18 minutes untill he gave a FATAL ERROR.
    I shall now begin In-place large FFTs ( maximum heat, power consumption, some RAM tested )

    By the test: In-place large FFTs ( maximum heat, power consumption, some RAM tested ) he also gives a FATAL ERROR. He says rounding was 0.5, expected less then 0.4
    Test was completed in 7 minutes and did 7 tests.

    The blend test gave me a bluescreen @ about 16 tests where lots of RAM was tested.

    I have 4x2 GB both 2x2 valueram kits.
    I removed 2 gb ( 1 kit ) and tried the other kit, still had BSOD's.
    I removed the 2 gb ( the other 1 kit ) and placed the other kit back on, still BSOD's.
    I changed the kit to the 2 other channels, and still BSOD's.

    During these 2 tests no bluescreen occured btw, they only gave me FATAL ERROR's ( same as what BSOD's tell me: FATAL ERROR and some long code ).
    Last edited by Snukkeh; 26 Jan 2012 at 12:16. Reason: new info
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  8. Posts : 5,705
    Win7 x64 + x86
       #18

    Run CPU stress tests from here: Hardware Diags

    Crashing of the CPU will suggest it's a CPU problem.
    No problems with the CPU will suggest that it's a motherboard problem.
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  9. Posts : 26
    Windows 7 Ultimate x64
    Thread Starter
       #19

    i runned |MG| CPU Stability Test 6.0 Download and it was like going on for 6 hours straight 100% both processor usage, and it didnt give me a BSOD.
    When i locked the computer and came back after an hour the program stopped working, but that has to do with the stupidity of locking the PC i guess.
    So my Asrock crap motherboard is having defaults ?
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  10. Posts : 5,705
    Win7 x64 + x86
       #20

    Run another CPU test just to be sure, but things seem to be pointing at the motherboard.

    Good luck!
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