BSOD upon startup, randomly, IRQL less than or equal to/memory manage


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    BSOD upon startup, randomly, IRQL less than or equal to/memory manage


    A majority of the time upon starting up my computer a recieve an error stating irql not less than or equal or memory management, sometimes i dont recieve the message for hours, sometimes its upon startup instantly 20+ times in a row, i have restored my computer, ran checkdsk, and everything i could think off buy im stuck, this frustrates me beyond belief, i will post a screenshot of the bsod soon untill then any suggestions on how to fix, windows 7 home premium 64bit, if anyone fixes this, they will be greatly rewarded.
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    Nblckk said:
    A majority of the time upon starting up my computer a recieve an error stating irql not less than or equal or memory management, sometimes i dont recieve the message for hours, sometimes its upon startup instantly 20+ times in a row, i have restored my computer, ran checkdsk, and everything i could think off buy im stuck, this frustrates me beyond belief, i will post a screenshot of the bsod soon untill then any suggestions on how to fix, windows 7 home premium 64bit, if anyone fixes this, they will be greatly rewarded.



    We do need the DMP file as it contains the only record of the sequence of events leading up to the crash, what drivers were loaded, and what was responsible.

    If you are overclocking STOP

    You may be able to get the DMP files without crashing by booting into safe mode (F8) with networking.

    To enable us to assist you with your computer's BSOD symptoms, upload the contents of your "\Windows\Minidump" folder.

    The procedure:
    * Copy the contents of \Windows\Minidump to another (temporary) location somewhere on your machine.
    * Zip up the copy.
    * Attach the ZIP archive to your post using the "paperclip" (file attachments) button.
    *If the files are too large please upload them to a file sharing service like "Rapidshare" and put a link to them in your reply.

    To ensure minidumps are enabled:
    * Go to Start, in the Search Box type: sysdm.cpl, press Enter.
    * Under the Advanced tab, click on the Startup and Recovery Settings... button.
    * Ensure that Automatically restart is unchecked.
    * Under the Write Debugging Information header select Small memory dump (256 kB) in the dropdown box (the 256kb varies).
    * Ensure that the Small Dump Directory is listed as %systemroot%\Minidump.
    * OK your way out.
    * Reboot if changes have been made.
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    My minidump files, thanks.
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    Nblckk said:
    My minidump files, thanks.
    Memory corruption probably caused by a driver (I suspect Related to AntiVir antivirus program which scans files transparently in the background. Note: Located in \%Program Files%\Avira\AntiVir PersonalEdition (Classic or Premium)\)

    I would remove it to test and if the BSOD's continue run these two tests


    Please run these two tests to verify your memory and find which driver is causing the problem.

    If you are overclocking anything reset to default before running these tests.
    In other words STOP!!!



    1-Memtest.
    *Download a copy of Memtest86 and burn the ISO to a CD using Iso Recorder or another ISO burning program. Memtest86+ - Advanced Memory Diagnostic Tool

    *Boot from the CD, and leave it running for at least 5 or 6 passes.

    Just remember, any time Memtest reports errors, it can be either bad RAM or a bad motherboard slot.

    Test the sticks individually, and if you find a good one, test it in all slots.

    Any errors are indicative of a memory problem.

    If a known good stick fails in a motherboard slot it is probably the slot.

    RAM - Test with Memtest86+



    2-Driver verifier

    I'd suggest that you first backup your data and then make sure you've got access to another computer so you can contact us if problems arise. Then make a System Restore point (so you can restore the system using the Vista/Win7 Startup Repair feature).

    In Windows 7 you can make a Startup Repair disk by going to Start....All Programs...Maintenance...Create a System Repair Disc - with Windows Vista you'll have to use your installation disk or the "Repair your computer" option at the top of the Safe Mode menu .

    Then, here's the procedure:
    - Go to Start and type in "verifier" (without the quotes) and press Enter
    - Select "Create custom settings (for code developers)" and click "Next"
    - Select "Select individual settings from a full list" and click "Next"
    - Select everything EXCEPT FOR "Low Resource Simulation" and click "Next"
    - Select "Select driver names from a list" and click "Next"
    Then select all drivers NOT provided by Microsoft and click "Next"
    - Select "Finish" on the next page.

    Reboot the system and wait for it to crash to the Blue Screen. Continue to use your system normally, and if you know what causes the crash, do that repeatedly. The objective here is to get the system to crash because Driver Verifier is stressing the drivers out. If it doesn't crash for you, then let it run for at least 36 hours of continuous operation (an estimate on my part).

    If you can't get into Windows because it crashes too soon, try it in Safe Mode.
    If you can't get into Safe Mode, try using System Restore from your installation DVD to set the system back to the previous restore point that you created.
    Driver Verifier - Enable and Disable


    Further Reading
    Using Driver Verifier to identify issues with Windows drivers for advanced users
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    I uninstalled Avira anti-virus and opera web browser, and it hasn't crashed in 28 hours, not sure if it is completely fixed yet, but if it is thanks in advance.
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    Nblckk said:
    I uninstalled Avira anti-virus and opera web browser, and it hasn't crashed in 28 hours, not sure if it is completely fixed yet, but if it is thanks in advance.

    Good luck and let us know if you need help.
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    I reinstalled Opera and it blue screened about two hours afterwards, i think that might be the problem, sucks Opera is my favorite web browser, but yeah thanks for everything you guys, your the best :)
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    Just got 2 blue screens in a row, heres a picture of one, any idea why this happened? I was playing killing floor at the time of the blue screen
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    Im getting all kinds of bsod now, pcip.sys page fault in non paged area, memory management, and IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL im pretty sure its an out of date driver but have no idea how to determine which one
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    Couldent get the rest of my dump files, said file not found or no read permission error but I could get the most recent one
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