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13 Mar 2012   #11
ant9985

Windows 7 Home premium 64bit SP1
 
 

Thnx for replying Vir Gnarus.

"They say 95C is under the max temp of 105C for this card."
GeForce GTX 470 - Specifications - GeForce

Does memtestCL do the same as nvidia-video-card-test? Or should i do both?
I ran memtestCL 6 times, no errors where reported.


I didn't rly wanna download driver sweeper, people have said it messed up their computer. I just uninstalled all nvidia drivers from 'control panel>programs and features', and deleted the nvidia folder on harddrive.

Windows likes to install a standard device driver for my graphics card(without me being able to stop it) when iv uninstalled graphics drivers. So im installing the nvidia drivers over this standard driver each time, i guess.

Iv installed .net framework 4.0


With OCCT v3.1.0, iv never used this program before. Can someone please talk me through it since the instructions in the link are not very clear and I don't want to cause damage to my card..


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13 Mar 2012   #12
Vir Gnarus

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

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Maximum is just that, the maximum, as in maximum critical threshold. Having it just a few degrees away will not be healthy on your card.

Realize that MemtestCL - like any hardware test - is not an absolute 100% guaranteed discoverer of hardware faults. There can be a number that can exist that won't manifest in MemtestCL, especially since MemtestCL is designed specifically to test the VRAM, and does little to test the GPU itself.

OCCT just does pressure testing for the CPU, not the GPU. Because of its design it will generate a lot of heat on your CPU, so make sure your cooling for your CPU is optimal. In addition to OCCT, running Prime95 on Torture Test with Blend or Large FFTs for several hours (9+) is a solid option. It tends to be a lot more sensitive to CPU failure than OCCT.

Don't forget to run Memtest86+ for at least 7 passes on your RAM.
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13 Mar 2012   #13
Maguscreed

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yeah, I get nervous when my card is at 70c at 90 I would be forcing a system shutdown.
You are seriously pushing the limits of the card there and if it keeps up it's lifespan will not be very long. At those temperatures the components will actually become brittle over weeks/months and it will eventually kill the card.
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13 Mar 2012   #14
ant9985

Windows 7 Home premium 64bit SP1
 
 

The card is overheating then? The website i bought it from said: "Please note as per NVIDIA's specifications which can be found on the link I have provided below the card is designed to run at temperatures up to 105c".
Also: "These cards are known for running at high temperatures, the temperature recorded is correct for the card you are using."
I tryed furmark again after they cleaned out the dust, and it didn't drop the heat by much, perhaps 3-4C.
I think they knew something was wrong and where just trying to avoid replacing it since it was a couple of weeks till warrenty ran out.
They also tryed to make out it wasn't the card they sold me: "the serial numbers of the card does not match the box."

I ran memtest86+ last year on my ram without errors. I will try again soon. But it sounds like you think it's the graphics card, if it's not supposed to get to 90C ever. This was in furmark test that it was above 90C, Im not sure it goes that high normally... maybe there is something wrong in my computer that is making it hot.

The website i bought it from said they used some other test program i forget the name of, and the temperature was around 80C i believe. I cannot login to get exact info right now cause i dont have Kaspersky and it's virtual keyboard, i was told to remove it.
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13 Mar 2012   #15
Vir Gnarus

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Windows 7 64-bit
 
 

The card is overheating, and moreso, that fact that it has been overheating for a while could very well mean you've lost it. They are right about the information provided by NVidia, but they are misreading it. Again, it's a maximum temp threshold. Yes, GPUs can handle more heat than a CPU, but not by that much, and the closer you get to the threshold the more wear you place on the components. The threshold is just there for the card to say "TOO HOT" and shut itself down as a safety measure, but riding it close will be no different than if you surpassed it.

You may have bad airflow in the PC, or some close obstructions that's preventing proper flow from your GPU fan. The GPU fan itself may even be insufficient (often the stock coolers do end up being subpar!).

You can record voltages and temperatures using HWInfo and setting it to Sensors only at startup. We recommend you log two 30-minute instances, one during idle, and one during high load. Send them to us in their default format (CSV) and we should be able to take a look at em. Don't worry if your PC crashes midway, it'll be saved up to that point. If you don't select Sensors only at startup, it'll just send us a report of all your hardware, which will be pretty pointless.
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13 Mar 2012   #16
ant9985

Windows 7 Home premium 64bit SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Vir Gnarus View Post
You may have bad airflow in the PC, or some close obstructions that's preventing proper flow from your GPU fan. The GPU fan itself may even be insufficient (often the stock coolers do end up being subpar!).

You can record voltages and temperatures using HWInfo and setting it to Sensors only at startup. We recommend you log two 30-minute instances, one during idle, and one during high load. Send them to us in their default format (CSV) and we should be able to take a look at em. Don't worry if your PC crashes midway, it'll be saved up to that point. If you don't select Sensors only at startup, it'll just send us a report of all your hardware, which will be pretty pointless.
Thanks for replying.
Im not sure about air flow. Antec900 has good airflow i think, but theres a lot of cables from the PSU i have to squeeze in somehow at the bottom of the case. The GPU is in the middle of the case, with 2 slots between it and my soundcard. There is nothing blocking the GPU fan and it looks to be spinning ok.

I will try HWinfo now like u suggest, but there doesn't seem to be a guide with it.
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13 Mar 2012   #17
Vir Gnarus

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 64-bit
 
 

It's very simple, as long as you press Sensors only at startup it should only bring up a window displaying sensor readings. Then you can click the button to start logging and choose where to place and what to name your log file and then let it run.
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13 Mar 2012   #18
ant9985

Windows 7 Home premium 64bit SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Vir Gnarus View Post
It's very simple, as long as you press Sensors only at startup it should only bring up a window displaying sensor readings. Then you can click the button to start logging and choose where to place and what to name your log file and then let it run.
Ok thanks, ill do it now, and post results.
For the high load one, i could do this while playing a game? such as starcraft2 maybe?
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13 Mar 2012   #19
Vir Gnarus

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 64-bit
 
 

Yep, gaming is a great method, as well as benchmarks like Unigine and Furmark.
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14 Mar 2012   #20
ant9985

Windows 7 Home premium 64bit SP1
 
 

When i try and upload them, it says invalid file, i don't think it likes .CSV extension(wasn't listed).
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