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Windows 7: BSOD when gaming/transferring files - Page_Fault_In_NonPaged_Area

31 Mar 2012   #31
onyxaj

Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
 
 

Blast! It crashed again. I'm not sure of the error, since it did it while I was away from the system. When I got back, the game was closed, and I had the little 'unexpected shutdown' message.

As for the MemTest runs, I don't really remember how many passes, maybe 5 or so?

Anyway, here is the latest BSOD error.


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31 Mar 2012   #32
writhziden

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit
 
 

Still blames the graphics card. Since you only ran 5 passes of Memtest86+, I suspect it still may be memory related. The RAM itself may be fine, but you may have too much RAM running at once without the proper settings. We should first make sure the RAM itself is fine. Run with 8 GB at a time and see how the system responds. Then run with the other set of 8 GB and see. Just do your normal routine in Windows with 8 GB each time. If the system works with both sets of 8 GB, it is probably just that adjustments need to be made for the 16 GB, and we can help with that.

Before taking out 8 GB, do the following with all 16 GB installed:
  • Download and install CPU-Z and Upload screenshots of the CPU, Mainboard, Memory, and SPD tabs. In the SPD tab, upload an image of each slot.


Many times, the BIOS is configured to handle 4 GB with auto voltage settings. Increasing over 4 GB can sometimes result in crashes (although in my experience, 8 GB usually runs fine and it is at more than 8 that systems have issues). So do the above and post back your CPU-Z screenshots with 16 GB installed. Then test 8 GB at a time and see if maybe there is one bad set or if it is possibly a settings issue.
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31 Mar 2012   #33
onyxaj

Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
 
 

Never thought of having too much RAM. Okay, got the tools and captured each tab.

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31 Mar 2012   #34
writhziden

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit
 
 

Timings all look good. It may be a bad module or voltage adjustments that are needed. We'll have to see how things go when you test two modules at a time.
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31 Mar 2012   #35
onyxaj

Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
 
 

I have two in now. Slots 1 and 3. So far, no issues. Gaming was fine with no crashes, and no idle crashes as of yet. I will let it sit overnight and see in the morning. Now, if this is successful, do you want me to try the other two in the same slots, or should we think about tweaking the BIOS and using all four?
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31 Mar 2012   #36
writhziden

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit
 
 

Try the other two in the same slots first. We need to be sure both sets are good before doing the BIOS tweaks.
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01 Apr 2012   #37
onyxaj

Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
 
 

Okay, I assume the two sticks are working fine since the system would have normally crashed a few times, and I have had nothing. I just put the other two sticks in and will test today. I'll wait until tomorrow morning to verify I don't have any idle crashes overnight. I will post my results sometime tomorrow and we can go from there. Thanks again for all the help. It's been a hell of a ride, but I can see the end now.
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01 Apr 2012   #38
writhziden

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit
 
 

Glad to see we are at least on the right track. Let us know what happens with the other set of 8 GB.
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02 Apr 2012   #39
onyxaj

Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
 
 

Alright, I think I have at least 1 bad RAM stick. I put the other two in yesterday, and had a crash within ten minutes, then another within the next ten. I ran MemTest with both stick in, but after 12 passes, there will still no errors for some reason. I guess my only option now is to use each stick indiviadually to find which stick is bad. I assume the crashes are quicker now since its hitting the bad section of RAM faster. I have really lost faith in Memtest at this point though. I'll try each stick when I get a chance, chuck the bad one, and try the other three together and see if it works.
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02 Apr 2012   #40
writhziden

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit
 
 

Unfortunately, Memtest86+ does not always find problems. Memory can be very finicky, so it is not necessarily a fault of Memtest86+ but of electronics in general. When electronics fail, diagnostic utilities are not always able to catch the failure, especially if it is out of the realm of what they usually test for. That is why it is sometimes necessary to test through doing your normal routine through Windows itself.
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