| Windows 7: Crashing/Restarting - Error 41 - No BSOD - New Build |
24 Mar 2012
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#1 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit |
Crashing/Restarting - Error 41 - No BSOD - New Build Hi,
So I need to make this post short, my brand new computer I just built is crashing and restarting without a reason I can find.
My System health report wont be very accurate because I need to run OCCT stress test in the background to slow down the amount of times it crashes so I can post this.
I have run memtest for 12 hours - No errors.
My CPU is cooled by a H100 - temps never go above 40c even under load.
CPU - i5 - 2500k
MOBO - Gigabyte GA-Z68X-UD3H-B3
PSU - Antec 750w
Even on a fresh install it will crash during the setup phase, like where you put in product code and username. Leading me to think its a Hardware issue. I just dont know which piece. Is Windows 7 . . . - 64Bit - Installed Windows 7 Home Prem on an M4 ssd - OEM - Everything is brand new - What is the age of OS installation: Fresh install | My System Specs |
| OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit |
24 Mar 2012
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#2 | | Win 7 Pro 64-bit South Central Texas |
Hello bryon and welcome to Seven Forums. My usual disclaimer: I'm not an expert at anything ... especially when it comes to SSDs and crashes.
From what I've read here, many times Error 41 is the result of a bad memory module or power supply. That also seems to be Microsoft's opinion in Scenario 3. Description of Windows Kernel event ID 41 error in Windows 7 or in Windows Server 2008 R2: "The system has rebooted without cleanly shutting down first"
Another possibility (I think) is if the SSD wasn't properly configured or optimized prior to installing the OS. Perhaps something in this tutorial may give you a clue: SSD / HDD : Optimize for Windows Reinstallation
Please post back if any of this helped or not. | My System Specs | | Computer type Laptop System Manufacturer/Model Number Sony Vaio VPCEB47GM Laptop OS Win 7 Pro 64-bit CPU Intel i5 2.4 Ghz Memory 8GB DDR3 Graphics Card Intel HD 3000 Sound Card IDT High Definition Monitor(s) Displays 15.6 WGXA Anti-Glare LED Screen Resolution 1280x800 Hard Drives 640Gb 7200rpm Antivirus MSE Browser Opera (primary) with IE9 backup |
24 Mar 2012
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#3 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit |
Thank you for the fast reply. I have been to both links already and gone through each one.
I have automatic restart turned off on errors and my dump files is set up however it will never create the Minidump folder when I have a crash.
I have run the OCCT PSU stress test for hours and all the voltages seemed to hold, I really know nothing about them though.
I have done windows mem test on each stick on my memory(4x4gb - 16gb) and all passed. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit |
24 Mar 2012
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#4 | | Win 7 Pro 64-bit South Central Texas |
Let me see if one of our resident experts in new builds can take a look at this. I'll elevate this to a different section of the forum. Don't give up on us - it may take a while for a response due to time zone differences. | My System Specs | | Computer type Laptop System Manufacturer/Model Number Sony Vaio VPCEB47GM Laptop OS Win 7 Pro 64-bit CPU Intel i5 2.4 Ghz Memory 8GB DDR3 Graphics Card Intel HD 3000 Sound Card IDT High Definition Monitor(s) Displays 15.6 WGXA Anti-Glare LED Screen Resolution 1280x800 Hard Drives 640Gb 7200rpm Antivirus MSE Browser Opera (primary) with IE9 backup |
24 Mar 2012
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#5 | | Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (x64) South Australia |
Hi Bryon,
A couple of things to check off the list:
1. Have you installed all the motherboard-related drivers that would be on the DVD that came with the motherboard?
2. Have you altered any of the settings in the BIOS at all?
I'm no expert, but usually our experienced members recommending testing memory using MemTest86+, as opposed to MemTest: RAM - Test with Memtest86+
Regards,
Golden | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Golden Mk. I.3 OS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (x64) CPU Intel i7 860 @ 2.80 GHz Motherboard Gigabyte P55A-UD3R Rev.1. Award BIOS F13 Memory 16GB Corsair Vengance DDR3 @ 661 MHz Dual Channel (9-9-9-24) Graphics Card EVGA NVidia GTX 560 1024MB Sound Card Realtek Integrated Monitor(s) Displays Dual Samsung SyncMaster 2494HS Screen Resolution 1920*1080 and 1920*1080 Keyboard Logitech G110 Mouse Logitech MX518 PSU Thermaltake ToughPower QFan 750W Case Thermaltake Element S VK60001W2Z Cooling Corsair H60 Water Cooling, 2*230mm and 2*80mm case fans Hard Drives 1*OCZ Vertex 2 60GB SSD;
2*Samsung F3 SpinPoint 1TB in RAID0;
3*Samsung F1 SpinPoint 1TB in RAID5;
1*Western Digital 500GB External USB 3.0
1*Seagate 500GB External USB 2.0 Internet Speed Not fast enough!!! Antivirus MSE and Malwarebytes Pro Browser Chrome Version 25 Other Info Laptop: ASUS X54C, Intel Core i3-2330M @ 2.0Ghz, 4GB RAM, Intel HD on-board graphics, Windows 7 Professional SP1 (x64), LinuxMint 14 (x64), PepperMint 3 (x86) |
24 Mar 2012
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#6 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit |

Quote: Originally Posted by Golden Hi Bryon,
A couple of things to check off the list:
1. Have you installed all the motherboard-related drivers that would be on the DVD that came with the motherboard?
2. Have you altered any of the settings in the BIOS at all?
I'm no expert, but usually our experienced members recommending testing memory using MemTest86+, as opposed to MemTest: RAM - Test with Memtest86+
Regards,
Golden Hi,
Yes I had installed all the motherboard drivers the first time, when the crashes started happening I did an install without the drivers to see if that was the issue. It looks like it wasn't. I was going to do a clean install again from the link above and see how that goes.
Besides changing my SSD from IDE to AHCI I have all the settings on fail safe defaults, I have also tried optimal, same problem. Also I have tried IDE mode as well and that made no difference to the crashes.
Sorry I was lazy and didn't remember the whole name of the application I used, which was "MemTest86+". I let it run for 10 passes. No errors.
Also thank you for that, marsmimar.
Bryon | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit |
24 Mar 2012
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#7 | | Windows 7 Ult x64 - SP1/ Windows 8 Pro x64 Wanderer |
Have you double checked that all connections are correct and tight?
Did you download the latest motherboard drivers from the website?
Which BIOS version do you have?
Pull out three of the RAM cards, leaving one installed in slot 2 (second from the CPU), check for stability. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number 76~2.0 OS Windows 7 Ult x64 - SP1/ Windows 8 Pro x64 CPU Intel Core i5-3570K 4.6GHz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-Z77X UD3H, f18 Memory 8GB (2X4GB) DDR3 1600 Corsair Vengeance CL8 1.5v Graphics Card Sapphire HD 7770 Vapor-X OC 1GB DDR5 Sound Card Onboard VIA VT2021 Monitor(s) Displays 22" LCD Dell Screen Resolution 1680x1050 Keyboard Logitech Wave Mouse CM Sentinel PSU Corsair HX650W Case Cooler Master Storm Scout Cooling Corsair H80 2x12cm Noctua NF P12 , 2x14cm case fans Hard Drives Samsung 840Pro 128GB SSD,
Seagate Barracuda 500GB SATA2 7200rpm 32MB cache, Seagate Barracuda 1TB SATA2 7200rpm 32MB cache, Internet Speed Dismal Antivirus Avast Browser Opera Next Other Info eSATA ports,
External eSATA Seagate 500GB SATA2 7200rpm,
External USB WD 500GB |
24 Mar 2012
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#8 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit |
I just checked connections. All are good.
I have all the latest Chipset drivers from the website.
My Bios is flashed to the latest version F11
Only one Ram stick left in slot 2. Crashed within 4 min of power on.
Bryon | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit |
24 Mar 2012
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#9 | | Windows 7 Ult x64 - SP1/ Windows 8 Pro x64 Wanderer |
Was the system at idle or under a load?
From your previous posts, it seems to be more stable when under a load, is this correct?
Run the Intel Processor Diagnostic Tool. What is the Intel® Processor Diagnostic Tool?
Might be the idle state CPU voltage is too low, have seen this issue mentioned. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number 76~2.0 OS Windows 7 Ult x64 - SP1/ Windows 8 Pro x64 CPU Intel Core i5-3570K 4.6GHz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-Z77X UD3H, f18 Memory 8GB (2X4GB) DDR3 1600 Corsair Vengeance CL8 1.5v Graphics Card Sapphire HD 7770 Vapor-X OC 1GB DDR5 Sound Card Onboard VIA VT2021 Monitor(s) Displays 22" LCD Dell Screen Resolution 1680x1050 Keyboard Logitech Wave Mouse CM Sentinel PSU Corsair HX650W Case Cooler Master Storm Scout Cooling Corsair H80 2x12cm Noctua NF P12 , 2x14cm case fans Hard Drives Samsung 840Pro 128GB SSD,
Seagate Barracuda 500GB SATA2 7200rpm 32MB cache, Seagate Barracuda 1TB SATA2 7200rpm 32MB cache, Internet Speed Dismal Antivirus Avast Browser Opera Next Other Info eSATA ports,
External eSATA Seagate 500GB SATA2 7200rpm,
External USB WD 500GB |
24 Mar 2012
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#10 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit |

Quote: Originally Posted by Dave76 Was the system at idle or under a load?
From your previous posts, it seems to be more stable when under a load, is this correct?
Run the Intel Processor Diagnostic Tool. What is the Intel® Processor Diagnostic Tool?
Might be the idle state CPU voltage is too low, have seen this issue mentioned. Most of the time when it is under little load. MSE update. Windows update. Download from the net. Crashed during the IPDT.
It said passed for that, the results are attatched.
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