random BSOD


  1. Posts : 4
    Windows 7 ultimate x64
       #1

    random BSOD


    Dear Tech`s..

    After just having installed the x64 version of windows 7 ultimate, more BSOD`s then ever occur. Installing the sp1 update, or the cs5 master collection turns into a nice crash. As the !analyze -v dmp seems abracadabra to me, hopefully somebody can give me some pointers.

    Specifically:

    Debugging Details:
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    TRIAGER: Could not open triage file : C:\Program Files (x86)\Windows Kits\8.0\Debuggers\x64\triage\modclass.ini, error 2

    BUGCHECK_STR: 0x124_AuthenticAMD

    CUSTOMER_CRASH_COUNT: 1

    DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID: WIN7_DRIVER_FAULT

    PROCESS_NAME: AvastSvc.exe

    CURRENT_IRQL: f

    Debugging Details:
    ------------------

    STACK_COMMAND: kb

    FOLLOWUP_NAME: MachineOwner

    MODULE_NAME: AuthenticAMD

    IMAGE_NAME: AuthenticAMD

    DEBUG_FLR_IMAGE_TIMESTAMP: 0

    FAILURE_BUCKET_ID: X64_0x124_AuthenticAMD_PROCESSOR_CACHE

    BUCKET_ID: X64_0x124_AuthenticAMD_PROCESSOR_CACHE

    Followup: MachineOwner
    The bsod:
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  2. Posts : 28,845
    Win 8 Release candidate 8400
       #2

    Stop 0x124 is a hardware error.... if you are overclocking try resetting your processor to standard settings and see if that helps ... if you continue to get BSOD here are some more things you may want to consider ..


    Stop 0x124 - what it means and what to try
    Synopsis:

    A "stop 0x124" is fundamentally different to many other types of bluescreens because it stems from a hardware complaint. Stop 0x124 minidumps contain very little practical information, and it is therefore necessary to approach the problem as a case of hardware in an unknown state of distress.


    Generic "Stop 0x124" Troubleshooting Strategy:
    1) Ensure that none of the hardware components are overclocked. Hardware that is driven beyond its design specifications - by overclocking - can malfunction in unpredictable ways.

    2) Ensure that the machine is adequately cooled. If there is any doubt, open up the side of the PC case (be mindful of any relevant warranty conditions!) and point a mains fan squarely at the motherboard. That will rule out most (lack of) cooling issues.

    3) Update all hardware-related drivers: video, sound, RAID (if any), NIC... anything that interacts with a piece of hardware. It is good practice to run the latest drivers anyway.

    4) Update the motherboard BIOS according to the manufacturer's instructions. Their website should provide detailed instructions as to the brand and model-specific procedure.

    5) Rarely, bugs in the OS may cause "false positive" 0x124 events where the hardware wasn't complaining but Windows thought otherwise (because of the bug). At the time of writing, Windows 7 is not known to suffer from any such defects, but it is nevertheless important to always keep Windows itself updated.

    6) Attempt to (stress) test those hardware components which can be put through their paces artificially. The most obvious examples are the RAM and HDD(s). For the RAM, use the in-built memory diagnostics (run MDSCHED) or the 3rd-party memtest86 utility to run many hours worth of testing. For hard drives, check whether CHKDSK /R finds any problems on the drive(s), notably "bad sectors". Unreliable RAM, in particular, is deadly as far as software is concerned, and anything other than a 100% clear memory test result is cause for concern. Unfortunately, even a 100% clear result from the diagnostics utilities does not guarantee that the RAM is free from defects - only that none were encountered during the test passes.

    7) As the last of the non-invasive troubleshooting steps, perform a "vanilla" reinstallation of Windows: just the OS itself without any additional applications, games, utilities, updates, or new drivers - NOTHING AT ALL that is not sourced from the Windows 7 disc. Should that fail to mitigate the 0x124 problem, jump to the next steps. Otherwise, if you run the "vanilla" installation long enough to convince yourself that not a single 0x124 crash has occurred, start installing updates and applications slowly, always pausing between successive additions long enough to get a feel for whether the machine is still free from 0x124 crashes. Should the crashing resume, obviously the very last software addition(s) may be somehow linked to the root cause.
    If stop 0x124 errors persist despite the steps above, and the harware is under warranty, consider returning it and requesting a replacement which does not suffer periodic MCE events. Be aware that attempting the subsequent harware troubleshooting steps may, in some cases, void your warranty:
    8) Clean and carefully remove any dust from the inside of the machine. Reseat all connectors and memory modules. Use a can of compressed air to clean out the RAM DIMM sockets as much as possible.

    9) If all else fails, start removing items of hardware one-by-one in the hope that the culprit is something non-essential which can be removed. Obviously, this type of testing is a lot easier if you've got access to equivalent components in order to perform swaps.

    Should you find yourself in the situation of having performed all of the steps above without a resolution of the symptom, unfortunately the most likely reason is because the error message is literally correct - something is fundamentally wrong with the machine's hardware.



    Stop 0x124 - what it means and what to try
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  3. Posts : 4
    Windows 7 ultimate x64
    Thread Starter
       #3

    Well, my phenom II x4 was actually bought as a x2. Eventually, my bios told me it was a x4 afterall( amd fabricated some x4`s with corrupt core`s and downgraded them to x2`s )

    I overclocked this cpu from 3200mhz to 3600mhz and was running just fine under windows7 32 bit.

    You really think this could be the problem ? x64 does not accept this overclocking, while x86 does ? **** win7 x64 ?

    Secondly, i just recovered to a restore point, because of a phat BSOD after updating win7..
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  4. Posts : 11,269
    Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit
       #4

    Yes, overclocking causes instability by nature, and utilizing the full capabilities of your system in 64-bit may have resulted in the overclock causing issues. Have you removed the overclock?
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  5. Posts : 4
    Windows 7 ultimate x64
    Thread Starter
       #5

    Yeah for sure..

    Already on xp i learned that having BSOD`s with a different stop code pretty much every time, means a general system instability.

    Unfortunately, in this case, it also warned me about nvidia drivers, not working properly on this system. Ever since it`s an AMD board it prefers an ATI-chipset. So i was just about to bu a new RADEON..

    But she spins like a kitten, while still at 17.5 multiply. Again, i bought a dual core xII @3200, it turned out a quad at 3500..
      My Computer


  6. Posts : 11,269
    Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit
       #6

    So the system is now responding well? Let us know if you need any help.
      My Computer


  7. Posts : 4
    Windows 7 ultimate x64
    Thread Starter
       #7

    right now she runs like a charm and responds rather quick. I think as well to have noticed an increase in performance between win7 x86 @3600 -> win7 x64 @ 3500.

    I also had some problems running windows updates, which could have involved cpu..

    And every once in a while while using vlc, framerate would drop way down, and seemed to be "scrubbing" as in film editing. Thats also gone, so yeah, now, in the end it did all point to the cpu.
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  8. Posts : 11,269
    Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit
       #8

    That is great news! I am glad it is sorted. :)
      My Computer


 

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