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Windows 7: Consistent BSOD, even in safe mode.

14 Apr 2012   #1

Windows 7 Ulimate x 64
 
 
Consistent BSOD, even in safe mode.

I don't know what to do anymore. I have never gotten a bsod until last night...Ever since last night, while using Cinema 4D, I have been getting BSODs randomly. I have probably gotten about 20 of them in the last 24 hours. I have uninstalled my gfx card driver, networking driver, did several system restores, and now it's even occurring in safe mode. But here are my dumps so hopefully one of you can help me My computer is relatively new, i7 2600k, windows x64 ultimate. I also tried disabling all start up stuff and general drivers, but it still occurs.

My System SpecsSystem Spec
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14 Apr 2012   #2

Win 8 Release candidate 8400
 
 

Bsod's are always a combination of things, and yours is no exception.



These crashes were caused by memory corruption/exception (Cx05) probably a driver. You also have several old drivers needing updating, and need to have SP-1 installed.

Please run these two tests to verify your memory and find which driver is causing the problem.


* If you are overclocking anything reset to default before running these tests.
In other words STOP!!!

* If you have raid update its Driver.




Memtest.
Quote:
*Download a copy of Memtest86 and burn the ISO to a CD using Iso Recorder or another ISO burning program. Memtest86+ - Advanced Memory Diagnostic Tool

*Boot from the CD, and leave it running for at least 5-7 passes.

Just remember, any time Memtest reports errors, it can be either bad RAM or a bad motherboard slot.

Test the sticks individually, and if you find a good one, test it in all slots.

Any errors are indicative of a memory problem.

If a known good stick fails in a motherboard slot it is probably the slot.

RAM - Test with Memtest86+



Driver verifier

Quote:
Using Driver Verifier is an iffy proposition. Most times it'll crash and it'll tell you what the driver is. But sometimes it'll crash and won't tell you the driver. Other times it'll crash before you can log in to Windows. If you can't get to Safe Mode, then you'll have to resort to offline editing of the registry to disable Driver Verifier.

So, I'd suggest that you first backup your stuff and then make sure you've got access to another computer so you can contact us if problems arise. Then make a System Restore point (so you can restore the system using the Vista/Windows 7 Startup Repair feature).

Then, here's the procedure:
- Go to Start and type in "verifier" (without the quotes) and press Enter
- Select "Create custom settings (for code developers)" and click "Next"
- Select "Select individual settings from a full list" and click "Next"
- Select everything EXCEPT FOR "Special Pool", "Force Pending I/O Requests" and "Low Resource Simulation" and click "Next"
- Select "Select driver names from a list" and click "Next"
Then select all drivers NOT provided by Microsoft and click "Next"
- Select "Finish" on the next page.

If you are using win 8 add these

- Concurrency Stress Test
- DDI compliance checking

Reboot the system and wait for it to crash to the Blue Screen.
Continue to use your system normally, and if you know what causes the crash, do that repeatedly.
The objective here is to get the system to crash because Driver Verifier is stressing the drivers out.
If it doesn't crash for you, then let it run for at least 36 hours of continuous operation.

Reboot into Windows (after the crash) and turn off Driver Verifier by going back in and selecting "Delete existing settings" on the first page, then locate and zip up the memory dump file and upload it with your next post.

If you can't get into Windows because it crashes too soon, try it in Safe Mode.
If you can't get into Safe Mode, try using System Restore from your installation DVD to set the system back to the previous restore point that you created. You did create a restore point didnt you?
Driver Verifier

Using Driver Verifier (Windows Drivers)



Old drivers
Code:
tifsfilt.sys    8/29/2007 8:37:29 AM        
timntr.sys    8/29/2007 8:38:23 AM       
tdrpman.sys    11/12/2007 9:36:33 AM       
snapman.sys    11/22/2007 4:19:33 AM       
FNETURPX.SYS    10/3/2008 10:27:02 PM       
mcdbus.sys    2/24/2009 6:34:07 AM       
PxHlpa64.sys    6/23/2009 7:16:35 PM       
netr28ux.sys    7/3/2009 5:31:38 AM
How To Find Drivers:
- search Google for the name of the driver
- compare the Google results with what's installed on your system to figure out which device/program it belongs to
- visit the web site of the manufacturer of the hardware/program to get the latest drivers (DON'T use Windows Update or the Update driver function of Device Manager).
- if there are difficulties in locating them, post back with questions and someone will try and help you locate the appropriate program.

- - The most common drivers are listed on this page: Driver Reference "http://www.carrona.org/dvrref.php"]Driver Reference

- - Driver manufacturer links are on this page: "http://www.carrona.org/drvrdown.html"]Drivers and Downloads



Please run the System Update Readiness Tool (SURT) and then update to SP-1


32 Bit

Download: System Update Readiness Tool for Windows 7 (KB947821) [February 2012] - Microsoft Download Center - Download Details

64 Bit

Download: System Update Readiness Tool for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB947821) [February 2012] - Microsoft Download Center - Download Details


Now update to SP-1

Learn how to install Windows 7 Service Pack 1 (SP1)
My System SpecsSystem Spec
14 Apr 2012   #3

Windows 7 Ulimate x 64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by zigzag3143 View Post
Bsod's are always a combination of things, and yours is no exception.



These crashes were caused by memory corruption/exception (Cx05) probably a driver. You also have several old drivers needing updating, and need to have SP-1 installed.

Please run these two tests to verify your memory and find which driver is causing the problem.


* If you are overclocking anything reset to default before running these tests.
In other words STOP!!!

* If you have raid update its Driver.




Memtest.
Quote:
*Download a copy of Memtest86 and burn the ISO to a CD using Iso Recorder or another ISO burning program. Memtest86+ - Advanced Memory Diagnostic Tool

*Boot from the CD, and leave it running for at least 5-7 passes.

Just remember, any time Memtest reports errors, it can be either bad RAM or a bad motherboard slot.

Test the sticks individually, and if you find a good one, test it in all slots.

Any errors are indicative of a memory problem.

If a known good stick fails in a motherboard slot it is probably the slot.

RAM - Test with Memtest86+



Driver verifier

Quote:
Using Driver Verifier is an iffy proposition. Most times it'll crash and it'll tell you what the driver is. But sometimes it'll crash and won't tell you the driver. Other times it'll crash before you can log in to Windows. If you can't get to Safe Mode, then you'll have to resort to offline editing of the registry to disable Driver Verifier.

So, I'd suggest that you first backup your stuff and then make sure you've got access to another computer so you can contact us if problems arise. Then make a System Restore point (so you can restore the system using the Vista/Windows 7 Startup Repair feature).

Then, here's the procedure:
- Go to Start and type in "verifier" (without the quotes) and press Enter
- Select "Create custom settings (for code developers)" and click "Next"
- Select "Select individual settings from a full list" and click "Next"
- Select everything EXCEPT FOR "Special Pool", "Force Pending I/O Requests" and "Low Resource Simulation" and click "Next"
- Select "Select driver names from a list" and click "Next"
Then select all drivers NOT provided by Microsoft and click "Next"
- Select "Finish" on the next page.

If you are using win 8 add these

- Concurrency Stress Test
- DDI compliance checking

Reboot the system and wait for it to crash to the Blue Screen.
Continue to use your system normally, and if you know what causes the crash, do that repeatedly.
The objective here is to get the system to crash because Driver Verifier is stressing the drivers out.
If it doesn't crash for you, then let it run for at least 36 hours of continuous operation.

Reboot into Windows (after the crash) and turn off Driver Verifier by going back in and selecting "Delete existing settings" on the first page, then locate and zip up the memory dump file and upload it with your next post.

If you can't get into Windows because it crashes too soon, try it in Safe Mode.
If you can't get into Safe Mode, try using System Restore from your installation DVD to set the system back to the previous restore point that you created. You did create a restore point didnt you?
Driver Verifier

Using Driver Verifier (Windows Drivers)



Old drivers
Code:
tifsfilt.sys    8/29/2007 8:37:29 AM        
timntr.sys    8/29/2007 8:38:23 AM       
tdrpman.sys    11/12/2007 9:36:33 AM       
snapman.sys    11/22/2007 4:19:33 AM       
FNETURPX.SYS    10/3/2008 10:27:02 PM       
mcdbus.sys    2/24/2009 6:34:07 AM       
PxHlpa64.sys    6/23/2009 7:16:35 PM       
netr28ux.sys    7/3/2009 5:31:38 AM
How To Find Drivers:
- search Google for the name of the driver
- compare the Google results with what's installed on your system to figure out which device/program it belongs to
- visit the web site of the manufacturer of the hardware/program to get the latest drivers (DON'T use Windows Update or the Update driver function of Device Manager).
- if there are difficulties in locating them, post back with questions and someone will try and help you locate the appropriate program.

- - The most common drivers are listed on this page: Driver Reference "http://www.carrona.org/dvrref.php"]Driver Reference

- - Driver manufacturer links are on this page: "http://www.carrona.org/drvrdown.html"]Drivers and Downloads



Please run the System Update Readiness Tool (SURT) and then update to SP-1


32 Bit

Download: System Update Readiness Tool for Windows 7 (KB947821) [February 2012] - Microsoft Download Center - Download Details

64 Bit

Download: System Update Readiness Tool for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB947821) [February 2012] - Microsoft Download Center - Download Details


Now update to SP-1

Learn how to install Windows 7 Service Pack 1 (SP1)
Alright, I'll be back later after my mem tests :P
My System SpecsSystem Spec
.


14 Apr 2012   #4

Windows 7 Ulimate x 64
 
 

I got a bsod on timntr for the driver test.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
14 Apr 2012   #5

Win 8 Release candidate 8400
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Enteroar View Post
I got a bsod on timntr for the driver test.
Driver test?

Did you update the drivers? Install SP-1?

"timntr"?????
My System SpecsSystem Spec
14 Apr 2012   #6

Windows 7 Ulimate x 64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by zigzag3143 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Enteroar View Post
I got a bsod on timntr for the driver test.
Driver test?

Did you update the drivers? Install SP-1?

"timntr"?????
Driver verifier, bsod appears stating that timntr.sys is the cause. I am downloading sp-1 right now.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
14 Apr 2012   #7

Windows 7 Ulimate x 64
 
 

It's still getting BSODs in rendering for cinema4d....maybe ram problem? ): It gives me 1e error
My System SpecsSystem Spec
14 Apr 2012   #8

Win 8 Release candidate 8400
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Enteroar View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by zigzag3143 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Enteroar View Post
I got a bsod on timntr for the driver test.
Driver test?

Did you update the drivers? Install SP-1?

"timntr"?????
Driver verifier, bsod appears stating that timntr.sys is the cause. I am downloading sp-1 right now.
That file is Related to timntr.sys Backup Archive Explorer from Acronis. I would remove Acronis at least to test.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
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