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Windows 7: Constant BSODS, Issues booting, erratic Video Card Fan on boot, etc.

16 Jul 2012   #71
aquitas

Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

Attached:
-All dump files dating from beginning of thread to
todays date

-pictures of current bios settings

-pictures of HWiNFO64 (don't ask why I used a camera
instead of a screenshot, I wasn't thinking)


Software/Driver Consistency/Stress tests done:
-all suggested in this thread with ample passes
(although the hard drives I only tested on three
occasions for 10+ passes, still very thurough)

What I have tried:
- Bios settings are as requested (sometimes after
reboot after crash I get message from board that it
is unable to overclock, from there I either reset it
to default after which it eventually crashes, or i go
into bios settings, confirm that none of the settings
are different than you suggested, let it boot, and
then it eventually crashes)

- Bios update

- No MOBO software/asus utilities (EPU, Cool & Quiet,
Turbo V, etc)

- Flashing bios

- Verbal threats

- Domestic Abuse

Hardware tests in order:

- Ram (three different types/capacities) in all
possible slot configs. None boot except slots 2 and
4, crashes occur with all sticks

- 2 different video cards, both with drivers updated

- 2 different hard drives

- crashes occur in all combinations of the above
mentioned



What am i currently trying?:

- Different power supply (with suggested bios
settings) - does not boot with any ram configuration
other than slots 2 and 4

- Different power supply (with suggested bios
settings) - will run with original sticks of ram in
slots 2/4 until it crashes again, will post crash
log, then will try with one stick in 2 until crash,
one in 4 until crash, and have 2 other sticks of a
different brand to try as well, will update post with
new crash logs as they occur - hopefully this will
confirm ram is or isnt the issue


Other notes:

-CMOS battery in good shape

-Driver Verifier has been disabled since the post
where it's use was suggested

-Have run memtests 3 times all over night 3 nights

This took a while to type so it's possible I left out some information you wanted. If you need more detail let me know. Sorry for weird format... typed up in notepad.


My System SpecsSystem Spec
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16 Jul 2012   #72
Dave76

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Ult x64 - SP1/ Windows 8 Pro x64
 
 

Thanks for the info recap, it helps.

The biggest concern is the RAM channel A is not working.
This could be due to CPU bent pins, only way to check is to remove the CPU and do a visual inspection. You must re-apply new thermal paste when re-installing the CPU cooler.
Other possibility is a bad motherboard, possibly RAM slots.
Best way to check is to put another CPU in your system or your CPU in another system, let us if this is possible.


What BIOS version are you using now?
We need to check if the BIOS version is 'Beta' or we may find that a particular version is unstable.

What is the CMOS battery voltage?
We have seen in other threads, several pages later, an issue that was thought to be 'ok', turned out to be significant.

There are a few RAM testing programs with 'memtest' in the name, some of them aren't so good, is the one you used 'memtest86+'?

The memory clock in HWiNFO64 is off also, it's showing that it is set in BIOS at 200MHz.
Either CPUZ and HWiNFO64 aren't programed for your motherboard or there is a motherboard or BIOS issue.
Can you post the HWiNFO64 Main Page - Memory, under 'Current Performance Setting' snip?

Sounds like it might be the CMOS battery or a issue with BIOS, could be the programs aren't reporting correctly.

Download OCCT and run the CPU:OCCT test for 30 minutes.
When the test is finished or fails it will generate some graphs, post these graphs when you get them. This may give us a bit more information to work with.
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16 Jul 2012   #73
aquitas

Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

I feel like every time I troubleshoot an issue that I report to you, a new issue comes up before I can start troubleshooting. This is the case. Tried to boot this morning, now the OS BSOD's before I can log in. PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA. Pretty straight forward. Happens with all possibly bootable configurations of RAM. Only doesnt bsod when i boot from a different drive. Issue resides in page files of main drive I'm assuming. Tried to repair with disk, BSODs before progress can be made. At this point I'm just hoping I can somehow pull my personal files off of the drive. I tried booting from my old drive while the possibly corrupted drive was still plugged in but didn't work. Couldn't give it boot priority in BIOS, only the corrupted drive showed up in the boot list. Switched the cables/slots and still wouldnt boot to old drive. Old drive will boot if it's the only drive plugged in. Whole thing is ****ed. Frustration like you wouldn't believe. Thinking of ditching the build and starting from scratch. Put together a build on pcpartpicker but am a little hesitant to purchase it given how poorly this build is holding up. Although i feel like i've learned a lot from my current build, I'd like some input from someone with more experience. Aside from r/buildapc do you know of anywhere where i can go to to discuss builds in depth? Assuming you can't give out advice on building stable builds.
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17 Jul 2012   #74
Dave76

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Ult x64 - SP1/ Windows 8 Pro x64
 
 

Is that the HDD you ran Disk check on?

Run SeaTools on all of your hard drives.

A failing HDD can cause many issues, you might be able to put it in another computer or external HDD case to get the data off of it.

It's a fairly generic crash code.
Quote:
STOP 0x00000050: PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA
Usual causes: Defective hardware (particularly memory - but not just RAM), Faulty system service, Antivirus, Device driver, NTFS corruption, BIOS
If you can get the crash files, I'll take a look at them and see if there is any better info there.
Blue Screen of Death (BSOD) Posting Instructions

Why would you think we 'can't give out advice on building stable builds'?
If you want to upgrade your system, I would get a new motherboard and CPU, also a new HDD and/or SSD, get a good quality PSU.
You can use your existing components like RAM, your working HDD, case, graphics card, monitor, keyboard and mouse.

Start a thread in the Hardware & Devices forum, include what you want, if you have any preferences, components you already have, and your budget.

You will get a lot of replies, everyone has advice on that topic.
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17 Jul 2012   #75
aquitas

Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

Thank you for your help. I'm going to make that post today. I'm fairly new to this website and was under the impression that discussion was limited to OS/hardware troubleshooting. Good to know! Given your knowledge of what my computer has been doing lately I wanted to ask you one more thing about my hardware before I decide what to order. I'm thinking that maybe I need a new case as well. When I press and hold the power down button sometimes the power shuts off like it should, but sometimes it powers down, but when i release the button it restarts the computer instead of leaving it off. I asked about this issue earlier in the post and it was suggested as a possible setting in the bios. My concern is that the wiring in the case could be faulty. I would like to know if I am putting any future purchased hardware (the motherboard where the cases cables hook into possibly at risk. Could other parts be damaged because of faulty case wiring?

If it's the case's wiring that is the issue I would have to replace the whole case (even though it's in great shape. Because several of the cables are soldered in place.
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17 Jul 2012   #76
Dave76

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Ult x64 - SP1/ Windows 8 Pro x64
 
 

Yes, it is possible that bad case wiring can cause damage. Check for loose connections on all the wiring.
The switch may just be bad.

What case do you have?
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17 Jul 2012   #77
aquitas

Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

I have the azza solano red/black version
Newegg.com - AZZA Solano 1000 Black/Black Japanese SECC Steel/Metal mesh in front ATX Full Tower Computer Case

Last time i cleaned it there was only one cable unattached, it went to a plug near the power suply that i never use(only one cable going into the cable wasn't soldered) I couldn't visably see damage. There are several plug in spots on the top of the case near the power button including speakers, headphones, usb, a reset button etc. When i wear headpohones plugged into that front jack i get a lot of extra noise through them.
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17 Jul 2012   #78
Dave76

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Ult x64 - SP1/ Windows 8 Pro x64
 
 

The headphone noise indicates a bad connector or loose wire.

You might try to replace the on/off switch and fix the other loose wire, taking it to a shop may cost too much, you will need to decide if the money is better spent on a new case.

Keep us informed on what you plan on doing.
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21 Jul 2012   #79
aquitas

Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

I decided to scrap the old build case included. I took what I could from it, (the ram, the video card, and the two hard drives). My new build is fully installed. Looks and runs great. My OS is running on a solid state. I wiped my 500 gig and am using it for storage. The 1tb drive has a corrupted page file and nothing I have done has successfully allowed for me to do ANYTHING with the drive.

The issue is that it blue screens as soon as the mobo is done loading.

I've tried giving boot priority to my solid state, repairing, reverting to last known config, safemode, repair console, booting from cd, reimaging, repairing from cd, reverting from cd, all of them blue screen before repair, replacement, or access can be done. I even burned HDD Erase to a disk and tried to wipe the drive that way, wouldn't work (didnt blue screen with HDD Erase, just said failed). I'm completely stuck. I've never seen something this stuborn. Every suggestion I read for repairing/disabling/replacing the pagefile suggests that I do things that I can't do because it bluescreens before I can access the menu that their method requires.
I'm at a loss.

Here's an album of my new build! Glad0s Build - Imgur
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22 Jul 2012   #80
Dave76

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Ult x64 - SP1/ Windows 8 Pro x64
 
 

Can you update your 'System Specs' with your new components?
The pics look nice.

Is everything running fine except the 1TB HDD?
With the 1TB HDD disconnected it's stable?

Run Seatools on your Seagate 1TB HDD.
Download and run Seatools
How to use SeaTools for Windows
Short Drive Self Test and Long Drive Self Test.

If your system won't boot with the 1TB HDD connected, use the Seatools DOS version and install it on a CD or USB stick.
Seatools for DOS tutorial

Let us know the results and we can decide where to go from there.
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