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Windows 7: Fresh Build - Constant BSOD - Multiple Codes - 3b, 50, a

11 May 2012   #21
LP81

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Dwarf View Post
We also know that you are having problems with w7 64-bit, but can you try the 32-bit version instead?

Note that when carrying out testing such as this, you should set your BIOS to its defaults, and should stop over/under clocking. You should also ensure that you deselect the option to automatically activate when online.
I only have a 64-bit version DVD/License, no access to a 32-bit version.

I guess it's time to RMA the CPU and hope for the best on the next one that comes in - this makes me mad because I've had to now send back the CPA, Hard Drive, PSU and Case that I ordered (all from Amazon) they are going to think I'm nuts that everything they sent was broken


Regarding the "automatically Activate when online" are you referencing Win-7 Activation? What does activating it change?


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11 May 2012   #22
Dwarf

Windows 8.1 Pro RTM x64
 
 

Sorry, I didn't realise that you only had a 64-bit version of W7. I only suggested what I would have done in your situation.

As regards activation, it is only to save you having potential problems with it should you activate repeatedly within a short time scale. By unchecking that option, you have upto 30 days to ascertain whether everything is working as it should.

Hopefully, you won't have any problem with the RMA of your CPU, but what was the reason for the other returns? Were they connected with this problem?
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11 May 2012   #23
James7679

Windows 7 Home Premium x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Dwarf View Post
but what was the reason for the other returns? Were they connected with this problem?
I'm just going to take a stab here and say that he either got a crap PSU or a defective one and it cooked everything. That's just a guess though.
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11 May 2012   #24
LP81

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Dwarf View Post
Hopefully, you won't have any problem with the RMA of your CPU, but what was the reason for the other returns? Were they connected with this problem?

Little bit of A, little bit of B...

The Case I bought just seemed super cramped and loud compared to my old Cooler Master so I returned it and put the new components into the old case

PSU - I thought I ordered the 650 Watt version, but the Amazon Page defaulted to the 550W version and I didn't notice til it arrived so I sent it back and bought the X4 750W Modular one in place

Hard Drive - Hitachi 1TB HD - would throw up a "Power Error" on the Motherboard and wouldn't even POST. Determined it was the HD based on testing multiple cables and multiple HDs on the same Cables to the PSU/MOBO. RMAed it and bought a Western Digital in place.

And now sending back the CPU.... on account of because...
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12 May 2012   #25
Dave76

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Ult x64 - SP1/ Windows 8 Pro x64
 
 

Try a couple quick tests, take out two RAM cards, be sure the remaining two cards are in the correct motherboard slots, check your motherboard manual.

Boot the system, see if it is better or if it runs without crashing.
If it crashes again, then remove another RAM card and see if it will run with one card installed.
Swap out RAM cards if it is still throwing BSoDs.

You have tested the RAM cards with memtest86+, which indicates they are working. When running in Win7 they may still be throwing an error. This can usually be fixed by adjusting the settings, usually voltage.
With 4GB RAM or more you may need to bump the IMC (Integrated Memory Controller) voltage and possibly the DRAM voltage. This depends on how several of the hardware components are interacting.
Your VTT is low at 1.05v with 8GB RAM.
The quick test mentioned above should verify this, to get the 8GB RAM stable enough to run bump the VTT to 1.15v.
This may allow the system to run but, may need further adjustments.

Let us know if this helps.

Here is some info on your PSU:
PSU REVIEW DATABASE Ultra Products

I'm not familiar with the manufacturer Andyson, this may need to be looked into if the RAM tests above don't resolve the problem.
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12 May 2012   #26
LP81

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Hi Dave,

I just sent the CPU back for an RMA, I won't have a new one in hand until Wednesday. Once I get it, I will see if it helps and if not I'll move onto your RAM suggestion above. Thanks
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12 May 2012   #27
Dave76

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Ult x64 - SP1/ Windows 8 Pro x64
 
 

Hope the RMA solves the issue, either way let us know.
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16 May 2012   #28
LP81

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

So the new CPU showed up while I was at work and I was all exited to put it into the computer when I noticed something that makes me think it's really the motherboard that is bad.

I took multiple photos of the CPU slot with the light coming from different angles and to me, it look like one or two of the pins are misaligned...

When I put the original CPU in, I thought to myself that it didn't sound right going in, like something was scraping, but didn't really think much of it.

Any thoughts on if this looks bad and if I should RMA the mobo to? I assume it's not something I should try to realign myself obviously





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17 May 2012   #29
James7679

Windows 7 Home Premium x64
 
 

Yeah, that's not good. You can try and straighten them yourself with a pair of good tweezers(with the board out obviously). Or you can RMA it. Bent pins will do all kinds of bad stuff. Good job on catching that before installing the new processor.
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17 May 2012   #30
Vir Gnarus

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 64-bit
 
 

I can add that those do look like bent pins. Understand that bending them back may not resolve the issue, as there is metal fatigue that will occur through bending them in the first place and bending them back into place. Pin and hole placement is very meticulous and sensitive for ZIF sockets, so having it manipulated even slightly can pose fatal consequences.

I'm curious as to the purpose of those specific pins as they relate to your symptoms involving the corrupted bytes in your CPU registers. The corrupted bytes always appear to be in the exact same placement every time, which is very consistent. I'm curious if those pins are directly related to these bytes. However, that will involve me having to read up land listings and all that jazz, which is beyond me (I think a mere peon like myself doesn't even have access to much of it). It's still very interesting, though.

Anyways, hope you get things fixed up. Replacing the motherboard can be quite a chore, so I'd hate to see this not work for some reason.
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