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Windows 7: Fresh Build - Constant BSOD - Multiple Codes - 3b, 50, a

05 Jun 2012   #71
Vir Gnarus

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urgh, ok, I apologize, but the Latency kernel group they recommend is very limited. I'm not sure why the Mozilla dev article suggests it because it hardly even records anything involved with networking. I'm afraid I'll have to ask you to record once more. This time, instead of "latency" in the command line make it "latency+networktrace". Also, if somehow you can get "latency+networktrace+drivers" to work then that'd be super duper awesome, but it may BSOD your system. If it doesn't work somehow just use the first option.

Also, just to ask, what happens if you decide not to pause the download? Does it stall indefinitely? If you can get it to just recover on its own without pausing that would be preferable.

I apologize for asking you over and over on these logs. I haven't had the opportunity to use xperf much (which really should change) so I haven't yet solidified all of its options in my head yet.


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05 Jun 2012   #72
Vir Gnarus

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Oh,oh,oh! And add "Filename" too while you're at it since we're dealing with file I/O. So the most optimal log is "latency+networktrace+drivers+filename". Again, if the "drivers" option messes things up then remove it and leave the rest. Thanks a mil.
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05 Jun 2012   #73
LP81

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

No, thank YOU for all your help so far... I will try running it with latency+networktrace+drivers+filename and letting the file just hang indefinatly just to see if it makes any difference.

I'll report back in a bit (working from home today so I am between 2 computers)
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05 Jun 2012   #74
Vir Gnarus

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Well I'm just wondering if it DOES hang indefinitely unless you intervene. Does it?
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05 Jun 2012   #75
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Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Ran it again, using xperf -on latency+networktrace+drivers+filename -stackwalk profile

Started the download. It didn't initially start coming down so I cancelled it.

Picked "retry download"

It started to pull down, and stalled after 5 seconds.

I let it hang for 2-3 minutes with no change at all.

paused/resumed really quickly then killed the profiling.

new report uploaded: Zippyshare.com


Per your other reply, I tested letting it hang on it's own. When I hit the 5 minutes mark of hanging I decided to verify it's not the specific file.

While the first one hangs I started pulling down another file from Creative Worldwide Support got about 65K pulled down before it hung, so now both downloads are hanging indefinitely for the last 10 min
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05 Jun 2012   #76
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Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quick update - in case you are curious - 1 hour later, same files still hanging. I am going to cancel them since I figure after an hour, it's pretty definitive.
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06 Jun 2012   #77
Vir Gnarus

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 64-bit
 
 

So it sounds like TCP streams aren't sustaining, as opposed to something just coming in and halting all the bandwidth. Two completely different scenarios. That'll definitely help with my diagnosis of this.

I noticed you said you let it run for about 2-3 minutes before stopping the profiling, though I see it going as far as 360 seconds (6 minutes). Can you clarify?

Anyways, this looks like a good bit of data to chew on. In the meantime while I peruse it, if you wish to continue providing more info, I would highly recommend a Wireshark log. Just log a moment of a download attempt (just one) and when it halts wait a couple seconds then stop it and then Save As and send on yonder.

Also, one question I haven't asked that I'm not sure has been answered: If you try Safe Mode with Networking, does the same problem arise? Thanks.
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06 Jun 2012   #78
LP81

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Now I am confusing myself, because I remember that the one file showed 6 Minutes of activity but my description doesn't match... I gues it was more like 5-6 minutes of letting it stall. I apologize for the confusion. So many tests, I should keep a stop watch around and write things down as they happen.

I cannot remember if I have tried safe mode + networking yet. With all of the hullabaloo around the original BSOD issues I never got a stable platform until now to really think about booting into safe mode again. I will test this tonight when I get home from work. (can't specify safe mode + networking via logmein remote boot.)

I will download and run wireshark remotely (hopefully) and report back after I have done so
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06 Jun 2012   #79
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Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Started Wireshark
Started download
Stalled after 2-3 seconds at most.

Let it keep running, it actually restarted itself downloading after a 20 second (estimate) or so stagnation period then stalled out at around 45 seconds +/-

Let it stay stalled til the end of the log file at 116 seconds then I stopped recording.

File ended up over 20 MB after zipping so it's hosted again: Zippyshare.com


Have not been able to confirm nor deny safemode + networking.

I booted into it once and the one file momentarily stuttered but then downloaded fine. But, I was antsy and wanted to run Wireshark and robooted right away. I will test again tomorrow morning
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06 Jun 2012   #80
LP81

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Just for S&Gs, I ran Wireshark and booted up Diablo III.

Ran nice for the first few seconds at a 200 ms ping then game totally lagged out and showed a 1900+ ping and stopped moving, had to task manager force quit it then saved out the file.

Despite being 110 Seconds, almost the same as the download, the file is tiny so it is attached here rather than hosted
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