Solved Random Reboot to BIOS -- No BSOD

Haole

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Have benefited from reading many great posts on this forum, but can't yet find quite what I need.

Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit has been running fine for six months, but has begun rebooting to BIOS after about half an hour. Restarting from BIOS doesn't seem to work -- have to power off and back on to return to Windows.

When problem occurs, Windows becomes sluggish for about a minute ... programs and start menu slow/non-responsive ... then restart.

  • No known changes have been made to the system.
  • No overclocking. Temps OK. Corsair TX850 PSU
  • No programs need to be opened for it to happen.
  • Tends to happen about half an hour after startup.
  • Windows Updates current.
  • Microsoft Security Essentials virus protection in place.
  • Updated BIOS, but didn't fix the problem.
  • 8 Passes of MemTest+ 4.20 completed without error.
  • No problem if boot into CD-based OS such as MemTest or Linux LiveCD.

I've been struggling to learn about dump files, and I'm starting to think that this event just isn't creating them because I can't find them even though I'm pretty sure they're enabled. C drive is on an SSD. Maybe that disables dump files?

Thanks!
 

My Computer

OS
Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit Service Pack 1
CPU
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2600K CPU @ 3.40GHz
Motherboard
ASRock Z68 Professional Gen3
Memory
16.00 GB
Graphics Card(s)
Intel(R) HD Graphics 3000
Sound Card
(1) Realtek High Definition Audio (2) Intel(R) Display Aud
Screen Resolution
1280 x 1024 x 32 bits (4294967296 colors) @ 60 Hz
Hard Drives
SATA RAID0 Array
PSU
Corsair TX-850
Case
Cooler Master 932 HAF
Cooling
Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus
Keyboard
PS2
Mouse
Kensington USB trackball
Internet Speed
DSL
System Health Report now attached.

No problems apparent there (to me).
 

My Computer

OS
Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit Service Pack 1
CPU
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2600K CPU @ 3.40GHz
Motherboard
ASRock Z68 Professional Gen3
Memory
16.00 GB
Graphics Card(s)
Intel(R) HD Graphics 3000
Sound Card
(1) Realtek High Definition Audio (2) Intel(R) Display Aud
Screen Resolution
1280 x 1024 x 32 bits (4294967296 colors) @ 60 Hz
Hard Drives
SATA RAID0 Array
PSU
Corsair TX-850
Case
Cooler Master 932 HAF
Cooling
Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus
Keyboard
PS2
Mouse
Kensington USB trackball
Internet Speed
DSL
It is probably related to your SSD or your RAID array. Please provide us with more information about your system:
  • Fill in your system specs in your profile and not in a post in this thread: http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/180324-system-info-see-your-system-specs.html

  • Please upload your msinfo32.nfo file. To get this: Start Menu -> Type msinfo32 into the Search programs and files box -> When it opens, go to File, Save -> Save as msinfo32.nfo and save in a place you will remember -> Let it finish the process of gathering and saving the system info -> Right click the .nfo file, click send to compressed (zipped) folder -> Upload the .zip file here.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP Pavilion e9110t
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit
CPU
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q9550 @ 2.83GHz
Motherboard
Pegatron IPIEL-LA3
Memory
6.00 GB Hundai HMT125U6BFR8C-H9
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Radeon HD 4850
Sound Card
Realtek High Definition Audio/ATI High Definition Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer AL2216W
Screen Resolution
1680x1050
Hard Drives
Hitachi HDP725050GLA360 ATA Device 500 GB
PSU
Unknown/installed by HP
Case
HP generic case
Cooling
Intel Stock Cooling
Keyboard
HP Keyboard
Mouse
HP Mouse
Internet Speed
Download: 19.15 Mbps Upload: 1.67 Mbps
Other Info
Network Adapter Realtek RTL8168D/8111D Family PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet NIC (NDIS 6.20)
Network Adapter 802.11n Wireless PCI Express Card LAN Adapter
Profile updated with specs.

nfo file attached.
 

My Computer

OS
Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit Service Pack 1
CPU
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2600K CPU @ 3.40GHz
Motherboard
ASRock Z68 Professional Gen3
Memory
16.00 GB
Graphics Card(s)
Intel(R) HD Graphics 3000
Sound Card
(1) Realtek High Definition Audio (2) Intel(R) Display Aud
Screen Resolution
1280 x 1024 x 32 bits (4294967296 colors) @ 60 Hz
Hard Drives
SATA RAID0 Array
PSU
Corsair TX-850
Case
Cooler Master 932 HAF
Cooling
Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus
Keyboard
PS2
Mouse
Kensington USB trackball
Internet Speed
DSL
Sorry, I should have been a bit clearer. For the hard drives in your specs, can you provide the manufacturer(s) and model(s) of your SSD drive(s).


FYI: RAID was designed for servers in mind and not for the home user. Also, further reading regarding the RAID setup: Why RAID is (usually) a Terrible Idea - Puget Custom Computers.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP Pavilion e9110t
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit
CPU
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q9550 @ 2.83GHz
Motherboard
Pegatron IPIEL-LA3
Memory
6.00 GB Hundai HMT125U6BFR8C-H9
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Radeon HD 4850
Sound Card
Realtek High Definition Audio/ATI High Definition Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer AL2216W
Screen Resolution
1680x1050
Hard Drives
Hitachi HDP725050GLA360 ATA Device 500 GB
PSU
Unknown/installed by HP
Case
HP generic case
Cooling
Intel Stock Cooling
Keyboard
HP Keyboard
Mouse
HP Mouse
Internet Speed
Download: 19.15 Mbps Upload: 1.67 Mbps
Other Info
Network Adapter Realtek RTL8168D/8111D Family PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet NIC (NDIS 6.20)
Network Adapter 802.11n Wireless PCI Express Card LAN Adapter
Two, crucial ct064m4ssd2 SSDs in RAID0.

Appreciated your article arguing against desktop RAID. I'm completely willing to scrap that and just use one of the drives as C drive.

If possible, it might be wise to first identify the problem with the current config.
 

My Computer

OS
Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit Service Pack 1
CPU
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2600K CPU @ 3.40GHz
Motherboard
ASRock Z68 Professional Gen3
Memory
16.00 GB
Graphics Card(s)
Intel(R) HD Graphics 3000
Sound Card
(1) Realtek High Definition Audio (2) Intel(R) Display Aud
Screen Resolution
1280 x 1024 x 32 bits (4294967296 colors) @ 60 Hz
Hard Drives
SATA RAID0 Array
PSU
Corsair TX-850
Case
Cooler Master 932 HAF
Cooling
Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus
Keyboard
PS2
Mouse
Kensington USB trackball
Internet Speed
DSL
Are both SSDs up to date with FirmWare? Also, make sure the following are up to date:
  • BIOS Version
  • Chipset Drivers
  • Hard disk controller drivers/SATA drivers
  • If you have a Marvell IDE ATA/ATAPI device, make sure the drivers are up to date from the Intel site or Marvell site and not from your motherboard/vendor support site.

I know you said it happens every half hour, but there is a known problem with M4s causing crashes every hour; it may be related to the half hour issue with RAID since I am not familiar with what issues might arise in RAID configurations with those drives. Further Reading: http://www.sevenforums.com/crashes-...ion-1-hour-after-cold-boot-3.html#post1793840




The other thing I wonder about is if the drives are disappearing from the system: Try doing a power cycle of the SSD. The following steps should be carried out and take ~1 hour to complete.
  1. Power off the system.
  2. Remove all power supplies (ac adapter then battery for laptop, ac adapter for desktop)
  3. Hold down the power button for 30 seconds to close the circuit and drain all components of power.
  4. Reconnect all power supplies (battery then ac adapter for laptop, ac adapter for desktop)
  5. Turn on the system and enter the BIOS (see your manual for the steps to enter the BIOS)
  6. Let the computer remain in the BIOS for 20 minutes.
  7. Follow steps 1-3 and physically remove the SSD from the system by disconnecting the cables for a desktop or disconnecting the drive from the junction for a laptop.
  8. Leave the drive disconnected for 30 seconds to let all power drain from it.
  9. Replace the drive connection(s) and then do steps 4-8 again.
  10. Repeat steps 1-4.
  11. Start your computer normally and run Windows.

The above steps were a result of: Why did my SSD "disappear" from my system? - Crucial Community

While that may not be your drive, a power cycle should be the same on all SSD drives. See how the system responds after the SSD power cycle.
 
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My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP Pavilion e9110t
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit
CPU
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q9550 @ 2.83GHz
Motherboard
Pegatron IPIEL-LA3
Memory
6.00 GB Hundai HMT125U6BFR8C-H9
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Radeon HD 4850
Sound Card
Realtek High Definition Audio/ATI High Definition Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer AL2216W
Screen Resolution
1680x1050
Hard Drives
Hitachi HDP725050GLA360 ATA Device 500 GB
PSU
Unknown/installed by HP
Case
HP generic case
Cooling
Intel Stock Cooling
Keyboard
HP Keyboard
Mouse
HP Mouse
Internet Speed
Download: 19.15 Mbps Upload: 1.67 Mbps
Other Info
Network Adapter Realtek RTL8168D/8111D Family PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet NIC (NDIS 6.20)
Network Adapter 802.11n Wireless PCI Express Card LAN Adapter
Updating of SSD firmware appears to have fixed the problem, even without altering the RAID configuration. I took it a step at a time to make sure, and from the moment I did the firmware the problem stopped.

FYI, some other stuff I tried that didn't seem to help:
  • SFC /scannow
  • chkdsk
  • Updating BIOS
  • Updating chipset drivers

Don't know how you did it! What made you think SSD? Intuition based on tons of experience? Whatever the case, thank you.

And I'm following your advice and switching to a single drive rather than RAID.
 

My Computer

OS
Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit Service Pack 1
CPU
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2600K CPU @ 3.40GHz
Motherboard
ASRock Z68 Professional Gen3
Memory
16.00 GB
Graphics Card(s)
Intel(R) HD Graphics 3000
Sound Card
(1) Realtek High Definition Audio (2) Intel(R) Display Aud
Screen Resolution
1280 x 1024 x 32 bits (4294967296 colors) @ 60 Hz
Hard Drives
SATA RAID0 Array
PSU
Corsair TX-850
Case
Cooler Master 932 HAF
Cooling
Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus
Keyboard
PS2
Mouse
Kensington USB trackball
Internet Speed
DSL
Experience pointed to the SSD, as you said; I've seen a lot of M4 related crashes with old firmware. :)

You're welcome.

I am glad to see it solved! :party:
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP Pavilion e9110t
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit
CPU
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q9550 @ 2.83GHz
Motherboard
Pegatron IPIEL-LA3
Memory
6.00 GB Hundai HMT125U6BFR8C-H9
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Radeon HD 4850
Sound Card
Realtek High Definition Audio/ATI High Definition Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer AL2216W
Screen Resolution
1680x1050
Hard Drives
Hitachi HDP725050GLA360 ATA Device 500 GB
PSU
Unknown/installed by HP
Case
HP generic case
Cooling
Intel Stock Cooling
Keyboard
HP Keyboard
Mouse
HP Mouse
Internet Speed
Download: 19.15 Mbps Upload: 1.67 Mbps
Other Info
Network Adapter Realtek RTL8168D/8111D Family PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet NIC (NDIS 6.20)
Network Adapter 802.11n Wireless PCI Express Card LAN Adapter
Still working fine.

Was re-thinking this whole problem this morning and realized that Memtest and the various Linux LiveCD's didn't trigger the problem because they would be running from RAM rather than the drives. I had misinterpreted this behavior to mean that it was the OS or the drivers specific to it, but it was just that the OS in question, Windows 7, was the only guy not residing in RAM.

Got rid of the RAID array. Working fine. The simpler setup is worth it just for the peace of mind.

Again, thanks.
 

My Computer

OS
Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit Service Pack 1
CPU
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2600K CPU @ 3.40GHz
Motherboard
ASRock Z68 Professional Gen3
Memory
16.00 GB
Graphics Card(s)
Intel(R) HD Graphics 3000
Sound Card
(1) Realtek High Definition Audio (2) Intel(R) Display Aud
Screen Resolution
1280 x 1024 x 32 bits (4294967296 colors) @ 60 Hz
Hard Drives
SATA RAID0 Array
PSU
Corsair TX-850
Case
Cooler Master 932 HAF
Cooling
Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus
Keyboard
PS2
Mouse
Kensington USB trackball
Internet Speed
DSL
You're welcome.

I agree, the RAID setup is usually too much of a hassle. As I said, it is designed more for servers than for the home user which is why I personally avoid it. Glad you now have peace of mind. :D
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP Pavilion e9110t
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit
CPU
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q9550 @ 2.83GHz
Motherboard
Pegatron IPIEL-LA3
Memory
6.00 GB Hundai HMT125U6BFR8C-H9
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Radeon HD 4850
Sound Card
Realtek High Definition Audio/ATI High Definition Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer AL2216W
Screen Resolution
1680x1050
Hard Drives
Hitachi HDP725050GLA360 ATA Device 500 GB
PSU
Unknown/installed by HP
Case
HP generic case
Cooling
Intel Stock Cooling
Keyboard
HP Keyboard
Mouse
HP Mouse
Internet Speed
Download: 19.15 Mbps Upload: 1.67 Mbps
Other Info
Network Adapter Realtek RTL8168D/8111D Family PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet NIC (NDIS 6.20)
Network Adapter 802.11n Wireless PCI Express Card LAN Adapter
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