Bsod at startup - driver or Bios or Win7 reinstall?

gerrard · Sep 3, 2012

Mainboard Model : EP-8KHAL+ VT8366-8233
Chipset Northbridge: VIA KT266/333
Southbridge: VIA VT8233A
CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2000+ Socket A (462)

VIA Drivers Download - VIA Technologies, Inc.

usasma · Sep 4, 2012

I found this when browsing around their website (from down towards the bottom of the page on this link: VIA Technical Support FAQ - VIA Technologies, Inc. ):

Integrated Graphics
VIA has released Windows 7 drivers for the following chipsets:
VIA CN896, P4M900, VN896, VX800/820 series, VX855/VX875
Older chipsets can run Windows 7 using the default drivers built into Windows 7, but some graphical features of Windows 7 may not be supported.

That would suggest to me that there's not a later version available.
In that case, I wouldn't worry about this driver for now.

If the BSOD's continue, then please try this procedure:

- Start with these free hardware diagnostics: http://www.carrona.org/hwdiag.html
- If all of the diagnostics pass, then we look at a "Clean Install" of Windows: http://www.carrona.org/canned.html#clean
- Then, if the BSOD's still continue, it's time to star troubleshooting by hardware stripdown: http://www.carrona.org/strpdown.html

gerrard · Sep 24, 2012

Hello again,

I did memtest - no errors.
Hard disk sentinel shows no errors.
I did not go over all the hw tests, but tried again the driver verifier settings. When I set the recommended changes: during boot restart shortly 2-3 times and no bsod (or freeze during "starting windows" screen). When I delete existing settings: normal boot (at the stand of things).
When I did this process earlier, normal boot for a few days/week and after that bsods came, those I already zipped. Is it sure that it is about hardware?
I attach 2 pictures of MSconfig. It would be good to know if some of them are worth to check/uncheck. In case it helps.

gerrard · Sep 24, 2012

Nvidia items are among the startup items because I tried to rollback to an early version of nvidia vga driver but it became even worse. So changed to normal Win7 vga update and I did not remove them from startup (do not know if it is a problem or not).

usasma · Sep 24, 2012

Please finish all of the diagnostics.

Driver Verifier must run for a while - it won't necessarily cause a BSOD at boot. It depends on when the driver causes that problems as to when it'll BSOD.

I worry about the Creative Audio, the BitComet, and the Secunia - you may want to disable them temporarily.
If the nVidia device is no longer installed on your system - please uninstall the nVidia drivers.

gerrard · Sep 25, 2012

That's the main point: when I made run driver verifier - NO BSOD, just restart or freeze during boot.
When deleted the DV settings - BSOD, but after that OK.
Should it mean something?

usasma · Sep 25, 2012

Ahhh! I understand now!
In theory, if you don't get a BSOD with Driver Verifier - then the drivers that you selected aren't having any of the problems that Driver Verifier tests for.

Did you run Verifier for at least 36 hours (at least one time while testing 3rd party drivers)? If so, then we can assume that this isn't a 3rd party driver issue

That leaves us with hardware issues (which include compatibility issues - but are less likely because of the Verifier testing) or Windows issues.

That brings us back to finishing the hardware diagnostics. If that doesn't find anything, then you'll have to either:
- perform troubleshooting by hardware stripdown (removing stuff until you find the cause). Link about it here: Hardware Stripdown Troubleshooting or,
- clean install Windows (link about it here: Canned Speeches )

gerrard · Sep 25, 2012

Let's see what happened:

nVidia drivers removal - nothing
Soundcard removal - NO Bsod!
Soundcard drivers removal (not to have conflict with Realtek) - NO Bsod!

OK, I don' want to speak too soon, but 2 boot/restarts without a bsod successively were a long time ago. I hope I found that. Now it seems to me the SB 5.1 VX, but would be good to know that:
- this type is not compatible
- this piece is wrong, maybe faulty
- (slot is wrong on the mainboard, I don't think so)
- or maybe SB driver? (otherwise - Creative Wavestudio still on the programs list, I cannot remove like the other driver files of Creative)

It's a pity that the sound was better.

So thank you very much so far, I am waiting now...

gerrard · Sep 25, 2012

I forgot to mention that Driver verifier still deleted, so turning on will be the next one ... :zip:

gerrard · Sep 25, 2012

Now turned on the DV settings (drivers selected, not by MS etc.) - no automatic restart or freeze! Seems very good to me

(but the sound is a box-like

)

gerrard · Sep 27, 2012

Oh no ... I was happy too early
BSOD again (when driver verifier deleted)
Restart/freeze (when it is turned on)
So it's not the soundcard/driver which causes that.

usasma · Sep 27, 2012

If the BSOD's continue, then please try this procedure:

- Start with these free hardware diagnostics: Hardware Diagnostics
- If all of the diagnostics pass, then we look at a "Clean Install" of Windows: Canned Speeches
- Then, if the BSOD's still continue, it's time to star troubleshooting by hardware stripdown: Hardware Stripdown Troubleshooting

gerrard · Oct 6, 2012

Hi,

I continued with hardware test, HDD especially, and I could not find the support website for that (neither on Seagate page). My HDD is Samsung SV4012H. I want another test after Hard Disk sentinel (it was OK) because chkdsk showed some errors: "...attribute record corrupt". How can I make the test for this HDD?

Thanks

usasma · Oct 6, 2012

Use the Seagate Seatools test.

gerrard · Oct 8, 2012

I made the Seatools test (smart check, short self test, short and long generic) and all of them were passed.
(I don't understand why the HDD is shown twice the same in 2 rows and only the partition "C", the other partition "F" is nowhere.)
So it means that HDD is OK?

usasma · Oct 8, 2012

Yes, that means the HDD is probably OK.

If the BSOD's continue, then please try this procedure:

- Start with these free hardware diagnostics: Hardware Diagnostics
- If all of the diagnostics pass, then we look at a "Clean Install" of Windows: Canned Speeches
- Then, if the BSOD's still continue, it's time to star troubleshooting by hardware stripdown: Hardware Stripdown Troubleshooting

gerrard · Oct 9, 2012

Please help me!

No desktop at the moment - no icons, tray or start menu, no right click just blank light blue screen.
I tried to switch on explorer.exe but no result. I made chkdsk and sfc/scan but remained the same.
I am just browsing by add new task of task manager.
So I decided to go back to WinXP from Win7 but how should I do (I think backgrade is not allowed)?
Thanks

usasma · Oct 9, 2012

First scan for malware (bootable disks at this link): Free Online AntiMalware Resources
Then backup all of your data files.
Then, if you then wish to go back to WinXP, boot from XP disk and follow the directions to install WinXP.

gerrard · Oct 9, 2012

Seagate Seatools was the reason for no desktop!
I made a system restore by uninstalling it and now it's OK with the desktop.

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