Windows 7: Seemingly random BSODs, when accessing win explorer, chrome, games,etc

shuttyt · 29 Jul 2012

I first had blue screens when doing even menial tasks, not when stressing hardware. I ran memcheck on my two ram sticks for days in all ports, always came out clean with no errors. Checked hard drives, all came out clean with no bad sectors.

I ran driver verifier and found that i had a multimedia driver, motuaw.sys, which was corrupt, so i updated and had no bsods. Then a few days ago, bsods started coming back and more frequently, as the time stamps may show.

I havent ran verifier since updating my motuAW driver, and when i did previously, it would crash on startup.

Pulling my hair out, please help.

shuttyt · 30 Jul 2012

also, if it helps, bluescreenview keeps pointing to ntoskrnl.exe as a consistent culprit. I know this may not indicate much, as bluescreenview does that, I heard.

FredeGail · 30 Jul 2012

Hello shuttyt and welcome to Sevenforums.

A .nfo file is needed.

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To get this: Start Menu -> Type msinfo32 into the Search programs and files box -> When it opens, go to File, Save -> Save as msinfo32.nfo and save in a place you will remember -> Let it finish the process of gathering and saving the system info -> Right click the .nfo file, click send to compressed (zipped) folder -> Upload the .zip file here.

BSOD Analyse

It's funny you mentioned the motuAW.sys driver. I've rolled my eyes on a batch utility, that produced all your 3rd party drivers. motuAW.sys, as I've never heard of - came up.

Concerns

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MotuAW.sys Thu Apr 26 22:41:05 2012 (4F99B2E1)

MotuAW.sys is not very known. As far as I'm concerned it's not digitally signed by Microsoft. If you're running this device with a driver you've installed yourself, try to uninstall the current driver, and let Windows 7 choose the solution.

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GEARAspiWDM.sys Mon May 18 14:17:04 2009 (4A1151C0)
SynUSB64.sys Fri Jun 26 15:30:11 2009 (4A44CD63)
intelppm.sys Tue Jul 14 01:19:25 2009 (4A5BC0FD)
amdxata.sys Fri Mar 19 17:18:18 2010 (4BA3A3CA)
netr28ux.sys Wed Jun 8 04:40:42 2011 (4DEEE12A)
HECIx64.sys Thu Nov 10 01:52:25 2011 (4EBB2049)
Rt64win7.sys Fri Feb 3 14:00:02 2012 (4F2BDA52)
iusb3hub.sys Mon Feb 27 11:56:50 2012 (4F4B6172)
iusb3xhc.sys Mon Feb 27 11:56:53 2012 (4F4B6175)
iusb3hcs.sys Mon Feb 27 11:58:49 2012 (4F4B61E9)
MpFilter.sys Fri Mar 9 12:05:26 2012 (4F59E3F6)
nvhda64v.sys Wed Apr 18 19:07:54 2012 (4F8EF4EA)
MotuAW.sys Thu Apr 26 22:41:05 2012 (4F99B2E1)
MAWWAVE.sys Thu Apr 26 22:41:12 2012 (4F99B2E8)
nvlddmkm.sys Tue May 15 09:35:36 2012 (4FB20748)
SCDEmu.SYS Thu May 31 03:33:23 2012 (4FC6CA63)
GEARAspiWDM.sys
SynUSB64.sys
intelppm.sys
amdxata.sys
netr28ux.sys
HECIx64.sys
Rt64win7.sys
iusb3hub.sys
iusb3xhc.sys
iusb3hcs.sys
MpFilter.sys
nvhda64v.sys
MotuAW.sys <--- Not available on the Driver Reference Table
MAWWAVE.sys <--- Not available on the Driver Reference Table
nvlddmkm.sys
SCDEmu.SYS

Best Regards,
Frederik.

shuttyt · 30 Jul 2012

heres the msinfo.

For the motu drivers, it's a driver set for a bit of hardware that i have for audio editing.

MOTU.com - PCI-424 Compatibility

i had problems with them before and had to reload the drivers, but since then, i havent had blue screens with association to this driver. I had quite a few dmps pick this one up, but through collaboration with a few other people, we found it and updated it.

Windows will not find a suitable driver for this bit of hardware.

FredeGail · 30 Jul 2012

So just to clarify, you had it updated just now?

Best Regards,
Frederik.

shuttyt · 30 Jul 2012

i updated about a couple of weeks ago. I completely wiped it from my system and did a clean reinstall, and that was when i disabled driver verifier. If you notice the time stamps, that was the 15th of july, and everything since then just started happening.

FredeGail · 30 Jul 2012

Yes I see. What happens if you uninstall it from the Device Manager, and just leave it uninstalled. Eventhough Windows couldn't find the driver, does it work properly?

Best Regards,
Frederik

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shuttyt · 31 Jul 2012

I just tried it to no avail. Windows will not allow this device to function without its drivers.

I also just ran into a slight problem with reinstalling the drivers. When attempting to reinstall, I found that there was no box to select for my desired drivers. (The installer is a multi driver installer, so there was a choice between a PCI unit, USB/Firewire, and microbook) It seems that PCI drivers are registered somewhere as having been installed, and so I cannot perform an install of it again. Should I have to clean this up in my registry to actually continue? Or would you say that I should try to contact the manufacturer?

Also, if you don't mind me asking (since i am curious), what is the danger behind drivers that aren't digitally signed?

FredeGail · 31 Jul 2012

Quote: Originally Posted by shuttyt

Should I have to clean this up in my registry to actually continue?

Registry cleaners can ruin your whole system, so I wouldn't start doing it. It's obviously the Motu driver that's the problem. I'd maybe suggest you to do a Clean Install Windows 7
, and then just go for all the Windows 7 drivers has for your hardware, for the time being.

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Or would you say that I should try to contact the manufacturer?

I would yes, their driver ain't working as they should.

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Also, if you don't mind me asking (since i am curious), what is the danger behind drivers that aren't digitally signed?

Microsoft can't find re-installations for them, they attend not to work properly with the OS itself. And most importantly, Microsoft haven't tested them!

I hope this helps,

Frederik.

shuttyt · 01 Aug 2012

So I decided to try to just do a complete new install on a different drive, and boot from there, but during the win 7 installation, i got a BSOD. keep in mind that this is still in the boot-from-CD stage.

As far as im concerned, this can only really point to hardware. Am i correct in doing so? And if i were to assume anything, I can only say that it would be the mobo.

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