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Windows 7: BSOD after computer has been off for 12+ hours

03 Aug 2012   #1

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BSOD after computer has been off for 12+ hours

This has been a long time problem that I'd like to figure out once and for all.

I purchased an AMD AM3 Phenom X4 processor & a Gigabyte MA785GMT motherboard with 2x2gb Gskill DDR3 ram, Corair CX430 power & Seagate 500gb HD. I purchased an OEM Windows 7 Home Prem 64.

It worked for a bit then started to generate random BSOD on startup. If I wiped the drive, and re-loaded windows, everything worked until the computer was turned off for more that 12 hours. If you put the computer into sleep mode, it was fine. You could reboot, just not turn the machine off, or if you unplugged it, it would BSOD.

One of the consistant errors was with the Catalyst video drivers. As the chips on the MB are from ATI/AMD, I turned off the onboard video card and tried buying a new ATI video card thinking it would have the least issues with the MB support chips. (ie ATI chips should work with ATI video cards). This didn't fix it. So I replaced the memory cards. I tried a different motherboard from ASUS. I tried a new case/power supply. I ran memtest and no errors in a 38hour run. I ran Prime95 and it was fine without errors for 18hours.

Eventually I gave up on trying to fix it and lived with just not turning the computer off.

Then I moved to a new house and the computer got shut down for several months. When I got arround to re-starting it, I figured I'll just try replacing the one part that hadn't.. I got a new Asus P8B75M motherboard and i5-3570 CPU. I replaced the Corsair power supply with a TX650. I added an OCZ Agility 3 SSD.

And now I am getting the same BSOD if you turn off over night, and added that after a round of BSOD the computer now then looses your Windows 7 install. The data is on the drive but you can't do anything.

Attached is the last round of minidumps from the computer minidump.zip. If anyone can point a direction to look for what is going wrong I would love it. I have spent too much money on making a computer, and just should have bought an overpriced Dell and got some extended warranty as it would have cost me less that what I have paid so far. HELP!!!

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03 Aug 2012   #2

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In order to get the rest of the information that is requested in the BSOD how to instructions, I have wiped my SSD drive and re-loaded windows 7. I have installed all the Drivers that came on the CD that ships with the MB, and run the SF Diagnostic tool to get all the info for the install before it crashes. I have turned off the computer and will give it until tomorrow and see if it will repeat itself and BSOD on startup so I get some minidump errors.
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03 Aug 2012   #3

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I have taken some time to read through some of the other threads here in hopes to find something that might explain my issues. I have come up with a question however with running memtest+

In a thread about the STOP 0x50 error (that I have gotten quite a few of) one of the posters wrote:

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by richc46 View Post
No. Sometimes testing all give false results. The test must be done the way that I said. I can, also tell you, I have never seen consistent bad memory results that were not correct. I can also tell you to press down hard on each stick, sometimes they are not set correctly.
This brings to question. If your motherboard has Dual Channel memory, would you get problems if you put in a single Dimm to test it? Or would you need to put in 2 dimm's into either the A1/B1 or A2/B2 slots to properly test?
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04 Aug 2012   #4

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Just for my own sake, I ran memtest+ with the full 8gb of ram installed for 5 hours (for complete tests) and didn't get any errors. I know that this memory is OK as I have run it perfectly fine in my other work computer without trouble for two years.

So I turned off the clean install off overnight and rebooted this morning. Window came up OK, but as soon as I ran IE, it locked up, and eventually generated a STOP 0x3b (I believe) but it was so fast on screen I didn't really get a chance to see it. The system rebooted, and when into a chkdsk and recovered several bad blocks from the SSD.

Then windows restarted, and is seemed pretty stable. IE worked, and I ran CPU-z and looked at the processor, and I was trying to verify if I got conned with my i5 that was supposed to come with the faster Intel HD4000 video onboard according to the sales person who sold it to my. It turned out only the i5-3750k does.

Then when I shut the computer down, it had another BSOD with STOP 0x50

Attached are the reports that you fellows ask for. What floors me is this is doing this exact same problem now with two totally different everything (cpu, mb, psu, ram, hdd) the only thing that hasn't changed is my Windows 7 install DVD and it's install key. It works fine until you power it down for a while. I'm guessing 8-12 hours. Then it starts to generate BSOD when you start to use it.

HELP please. I desperately want to get to the bottom of what is going on.

Matt.
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04 Aug 2012   #5

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

For us to have a chance to help could you fill out your system specs?
((My System Specs)) This will help you.

Speccy - System Information - Free Download
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04 Aug 2012   #6

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I thought that I had. My machine is not a pre-built one (like a Dell or HP) if it was, then I would be talking with them to get the problem fixed under their warranty.

As listed on my CP page my current machine is:

ASUS P8B75M-CMP motherboard with bios 602 (the latest version from ASUS)
Intel i5-3750 cpu
8gb GSkill F3-12800CL9D-4GBNQ ram
Corsair TX650v2 PSU
Nec EA231WMi riunning at 1920 x 1080 if that really matters
OCZ Agility 3 128gb SSD

The case is black and made of aluminum. I don't know nor really care who made it. (does that really matter??)
I have a Saphire HD5670 ATI video card, but I have pulled that out and running with the onboard video to eliminate that as another possible cause of issue.


I had a Corsair CX430 psu prior.
The ram, I have been through 3 sets just to make sure it isn't memory. I can run them on my other i7-2600K computer without any issue. I have memtest+ them for over 40 hours now without any error.
I have tried working with Seagate HDD as well as Western Digital HDD.

Every combination for has the same issue. It works fine from original build until you turn the unit off for 12 hours. Then you start to get BSOD.

You can even do a build, and pull the power cord from the PSU and leave it for 12 hours with NO power plug, and on reboot it will BSOD.
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04 Aug 2012   #7

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

When I clicked on you specs before all I got was your operating system. Now I can see all your specs. Thank you.
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04 Aug 2012   #8

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Some more errors from the latest reboot after being turned off for the day.

Again sadly it rushes by too fast to see what the actual error was. It booted up into Windows 7 initally, then when opening up IE it generated the first BSOD. The machine rebooted and went into a chkdsk and found a slew of orphaned files on the SSD, then it would not reboot into windows 7. It will work with safe mode.
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04 Aug 2012   #9

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

When you boot and not use I.E. will you get a BSOD? I'am unable to read dumps sorry. Hopefully some one will come along for that. I have just read over your post again and it just confuses me. One post your computer has this,that and ding dong parts and the next it has something else. I hope you My System Specs is correct. Correct information helps us help you.
1. Because memory sticks work in one computer doesn't mean it will work in this problem computer. Your ram speed and voltages should match your specs of the motherboard and cpu.
2. As you posted; you run Prime 95 for 18 hours. That sure is a long time. What temp were you getting?
3. Running memory test 38 hours. I have never heard of such a long test.
4. Where did you buy Windows 7 from?
5. If you are overclock in anyway stop and use default settings.
6. What anti virus and firewall are you using.
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I will see if I can find someone to analize your zip files.
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04 Aug 2012   #10

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1. Because memory sticks work in one computer doesn't mean it will work in this problem computer. Your ram speed and voltages should match your specs of the motherboard and cpu.

The ram was bought because it was listed on the original motherboard tested list. The voltages and speed have been checked with the RAM manufacturer and correctly entered into the bios setup.


2. As you posted; you run Prime 95 for 18 hours. That sure is a long time. What temp were you getting?

When you have tried just about anything else, you go to extreme measures to try and find the problem. The MB got up to 58c. The CPU ran at 67, 69, 71 & 74c. That was the maximum it has ever gotten to. And zero errors, no Blue Screens.


3. Running memory test 38 hours. I have never heard of such a long test.

I was told to test the ram, and so I turned it on and left it for the weekend. Started up on Friday night, turned off on Sunday morning after I got up. Again no errors. But it was all the ram installed. I am trying each Dimm individually right now. At 9min per test cycle, I figure if I give is Dimm 2 hours, if it's flaky, it should fail by then.


4. Where did you buy Windows 7 from?

It was bought from my local computer store (Canada Computers) when I bought the first iteration of this computer. I know my post is confusing. I bought the components for a computer to do Photoshop. It worked for a month then started to have errors. After about 6 months errors, I gave up and replaced the machine with an i7-2600k. Not wanting to throw in the towel, I played to get the machine stable. From that I tested the RAM in the new i7 computer as I bought the exact same ram for the new machine. I bought a new case/psu to put the MB into. Also a new DVD drive, video card, mouse.... Then I figured out that if you don't power down the computer it would work mostly stable. So I lived with it until I moved 6 months ago. I decided to just replace the CPU as I thought that was what was likely defective and reuse the rest of the machine. It tuned out that it wasn't the CPU as the problems continue with the new i5-3750 and new motherboard that was bought two weeks ago.

5. If you are overclock in anyway stop and use default settings.

I don't see a point in Overclocking. Never have, never will.

6. What anti virus and firewall are you using.

I use Microsofts.. But it crashes reguardless of if there is any AV installed or not. If I do a clean install from the MS Windows 7 dvd and after it is finished, I turn the computer off for 12 hours. I don't install any software, or even hook up to any network, it will crash just the same.


I will let you know how the individual dimm memtest+ goes.
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