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Windows 7: Many different BSODs and freezes when 3d rendering / browsing internet

31 Aug 2012   #11
koolkat77

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I didn't mean MBAM is the problem.

A computer without antivirus is like life without love.

I suggest you use MSE which you can download from the link below. MBAM and MSE are a good combination which is suggested by many members on our forum. Download, install and run a complete scan with MSE to make sure you're free of viruses.

Microsoft Security Essentials - Free Antivirus for Windows

I am not good at understanding what the CBS.logs say but does SFC scannow say that it was able to fix the problems?

And..are you using any registry cleaning tools?


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31 Aug 2012   #12
10kk

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7600 Multiprocessor Free
 
 

According to sfc scannow`s results, it said it was "not able to fix all problems" but saved them to cbs.txt in c:\windows\logs.

I occasionally used ccleaner to clean out the registry. Its never caused problems with my experience, but who knows.

And ok, I will try out MSE after I install service pack 1.
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31 Aug 2012   #13
koolkat77

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Ccleaner is good but sounds like your computer has some major corruptions.
Do not run Ccleaner while you're BSOD'ing as they might delete the dumps.

Keep us posted of the results on MSE and SP1.

And before I suggest anything else.. Follow instructions on this link and try downloading the updates you weren't able to.

What is the System Update Readiness Tool?

Run SFC scannow again after using SURT.
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31 Aug 2012   #14
richc46

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Welcome
Please have patience, we have an extremely large number of questions in our crash section and a lot of our members are away for Summer or Labor Day vacations. It will take time and not in mere hours sometimes to get assistance.

A prelimary look at your reports indicate possible driver problems. Updating all drivers is a good thing to do, but the problem may be due to a corrupted driver.

Take driver verifier
Driver Verifier
I'd suggest that you first backup your data and then make sure you've got access to another computer so you can contact us if problems arise. Then make a System Restore point (so you can restore the system using the Vista/Windows 7 Startup Repair feature).

In Windows 7 you can make a Startup Repair disk by going to Start....All Programs...Maintenance...Create a System Repair Disc - with Windows Vista you'll have to use your installation disk or the "Repair your computer" option at the top of the Safe Mode menu .

Then, here's the procedure:
- Go to Start and type in "verifier" (without the quotes) and press Enter
- Select "Create custom settings (for code developers)" and click "Next"
- Select "Select individual settings from a full list" and click "Next"
- Select everything EXCEPT FOR "Low Resource Simulation" and click "Next"
- Select "Select driver names from a list" and click "Next"
Then select all drivers NOT provided by Microsoft and click "Next"
- Select "Finish" on the next page.

Reboot the system and wait for it to crash to the Blue Screen. Continue to use your system normally, and if you know what causes the crash, do that repeatedly. The objective here is to get the system to crash because Driver Verifier is stressing the drivers out. If it doesn't crash for you, then let it run for at least 36 hours of continuous operation (an estimate on my part).

If you can't get into Windows because it crashes too soon, try it in Safe Mode.
If you can't get into Safe Mode, try using System Restore from your installation DVD to set the system back to the previous restore point that you created.
Driver Verifier - Enable and Disable
In addition take memtest and run for 8 passes and then take each stick and test for 6 passes. We MUST be sure once a test is incorrectly passed, it is hard to find it as a cause of a problem
Update to SP1 if not already done,
Install all updates
Do not overclock, use default settings.
We can stress test graphics if it comes down to that.
BTW Good Luck
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01 Sep 2012   #15
10kk

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7600 Multiprocessor Free
 
 

Update: It appears that it is impossible for me to install SP1, due to my system hanging up sometime during the process. I've tried multiple times now. I did have SP1 pre-reset, so not sure how important that is.

Currently, after the most recent crash, it's very hard for me to get past the starting windows screen. If I power off and on, I can get to the "choose safe mode" screen, but now my system hangs at classpnp.sys

In this current state the computer very hard to use unless there is another option.

I'm thinking this is a hardware failure, but I don't know. Posting from my iPod.

Update: I was able to get on and did the driver verifier process you described. I was able to get the system to freeze very easily; but now what? Freezes seem far more prevalent on my machine now than before, when I first started having problemsi mostly encountered bsods.
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01 Sep 2012   #16
10kk

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7600 Multiprocessor Free
 
 

In response to Koolkat, i can't install the SURT due to the system hanging after 5 to 30 minutes.
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01 Sep 2012   #17
richc46

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

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The purpose of Verifier is not to have freezes but to stress the bad drivers to BSOD. We then look at the dmp and determine the weak drivers and replace them.
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01 Sep 2012   #18
koolkat77

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

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Do you have any documents/pictures in your user profile?
Take a back up of those cause the next thing I am going to suggest would need that.

And have you tried Richards suggestions on driver verifier?
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01 Sep 2012   #19
10kk

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7600 Multiprocessor Free
 
 

Richc: it might take a long time before I can make a bsod occur, only had maybe two today while I've had over 15 freezes.
Kool: I would not mind completely resetting everything and just updating windows off the bat; unfortunately the last time I did that, my laptop manufacturer toshiba has a huge amount of junk ware that they install which in itself caused bsods.

Just a note, i don't have a disc to re install windows due to the nature of toshiba, forcing me to have all their sponsored programs.
And yes, I was able to configure driver verifier.
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01 Sep 2012   #20
richc46

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The verifier puts a lot of stress on the drivers. 36 hours is usually more than enough time.
If negative we may want to stress the Graphics.

Do you have a valid key number?
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