Solved BSOD - getting BSOD error 0x0000003b a lot while idle or playing music

Craig Beverley · Sep 9, 2012

My computer has been doing this a lot recently and its started doing it more often, usually the 0x0000003b code pops up when either windows media player is on or when it is stood idle for a while. Using NirSoft's bluescreen viewer it stating that the ntoskrnl.exe is the problem in all minidumps, it also sometimes states nvator64.sys is the other file that causes the bluescreen. i have attached the minidumps to this and hopefully someone will tell me how to fix it, i have checked online and gathered it down to these 3 options... either my PSU is not powerful enough to support the payload, my HDD is corrupt or the RAM is stating to fail. Thank you for the people who can help! as a side note, i have tried formatting and reinstalling my windows 7 64bit ultimate, but the BSOD can appear on setup and did at one point so i had to renew the whole setup, recently it has started doing it a lot more. one happened not too long ago and also had the CDD.dll file as an error. Also before anyone says it, YES MY DRIVERS ARE ALL UP TO DATE! there are literally no updates available for my hardware which is why i think its either my HDD or RAM.

My Specs:
AMD Athlon II X2 245 2.91 Dualcore
Gigabyte M52LT-D3
4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 RAM (not sure on the manufacturer)
NVIDIA Geforce GT 440
500GB Partitioned Western Digital Sata II HDD

Craig Beverley · Sep 9, 2012

UPDATE: this just happened to me aswell... states the NTFS.sys is now the error (Error code 0x00000024) was literally only thumbing through facebook nothing else.

koolkat77 · Sep 10, 2012

Hello & welcome

If you keep bumping your own thread its likely that it may go unnoticed assuming it was attended by an analyst.
If you really need to edit your post please click on the

button of your first post and explain your updates for e.g "Update: 1, Update: 2"

This will save us from looking for unanswered threads!

Thanks

Analyze:
STOP 0x00000024: NTFS_FILE_SYSTEM BSOD Index

Usual causes: Disk corruption, insufficient physical memory, Device driver, Indexing, Resident antivirus, backup, defrag programs, Disk/Drive failing/failure.

Code:

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Use !analyze -v to get detailed debugging information.

[COLOR=Blue]BugCheck 24[/COLOR], {1904fb, fffff880033cb5c8, fffff880033cae20, fffff80002e62d76}

*** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for win32k.sys
*** ERROR: Module load completed but symbols could not be loaded for win32k.sys
Probably caused by :[COLOR=Blue] Ntfs.sys[/COLOR] ( Ntfs!NtfsDeleteScb+108 )

Followup: MachineOwner
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1: kd> !analyze -v
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[COLOR=Blue]
NTFS_FILE_SYSTEM (24)[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]

STOP 0x0000003B:SYSTEM_SERVICE_EXCEPTION BSOD Index

Usual causes: System service, Device driver, graphics driver, memory

Code:

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Use !analyze -v to get detailed debugging information.

[COLOR=Blue]BugCheck 3B[/COLOR], {c0000005, fffff96000116dc9, fffff880071c9ef0, 0}

Probably caused by :[COLOR=Blue] win32k.sys ( win32k!xxxInternalDoPaint+19 )[/COLOR]

Followup: MachineOwner
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1: kd> !analyze -v
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[COLOR=Blue]
SYSTEM_SERVICE_EXCEPTION (3b)[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]

What I can suggest from seeing your dumps is to check your hard drive for errors following this tutorial :ar: http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/433-disk-check.html then Hard drive scan usings SeaTools :ar: SeaTools for Windows | Seagate - Both long and short tests

Then run memtest86+ for 8 passes preferably overnight :ar:http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/105647-ram-test-memtest86.html

One more way to check if any of the memory sticks are defective, insert them one at a time in different slots and see how you computer performs/freezes or crashes.

I need your msinfo32 file to check some stuff.

Please upload your msinfo32.nfo file. To get this:

Click on the Start rb:
Type msinfo32 into the Search programs and files box
When it opens, go to File, Save
Save as msinfo32.nfo and save in a place you will remember
Let it finish the process of gathering and saving the system info
Right click the .nfo file, click send to compressed (zipped) folder
Upload the .zip file here.

That's all for now.

Keep us posted of what you've done

Craig Beverley · Sep 10, 2012

thanks for the reply, so far i have done most of these apart from the 8 pass memtest, the seatool only allows me to check my memory stick that is in and not my HDD is this a problem? the ChkDsk shows no signs of problems reported and states my HDD is healthy. whereas the memtest i did for 3 passes and had to end because the computer was needed, i have uploded another 2 .rar files of 18 photos containing photos of the memtest from the 1st error to the 138th, i'm pretty sure leaving it for 8 passes would just show that the ram is completely FUBAR? if not then i shall start it again the next time i have about 10 hours free. Also there was another blue screen 0x0000001E but the minidump file got erased when norton utilities did a scan so i cannot upload that

koolkat77 · Sep 10, 2012

I've seen the pictures, thanks. If you want to be sure whether or not your ram is faulty, go ahead and do the ram test for 8 passes.

May I know if this is a new computer? Is it under warranty? From your installed programs I don't see anything bad installed, except I would recommend Microsoft Security Essentials instead of Norton.

Seagate is for hard drive test - not memory..Anyway lets keep the hard drive aside, we'll test that later if we're sure your ram is not faulty.

And since you have 4 GB of ram, put in one stick at a time and check how your computer performs with that stick.

Craig Beverley · Sep 11, 2012

this isn't a new computer no, i've had it for quite a while, i think somewhere in the region of about 4 - 5 years. I've just added new things to it the RAM not being one of them. the seatools that i downloaded from the link you gave shows my memory stick only nothing else ive tried rescanning with it but it will not pick up my HDD at all. on a side not though i will never install windows security essentials on this computer as i think it is awful, the last time i pulled that down to my computer it gave me a trojan everyday for the week i had it, Norton is one of the best Anti-viruses and i wish to stick with that, thanks for the offer though

and i shall do the 8 pass tomorrow when im not at work, do you want the screen shots again of all errors or just what the 8th pass shows? also for the different sticks does that mean to do 8 passes on each stick? or does it mean to do only 3 - 4 with each individually? Thanks

koolkat77 · Sep 11, 2012

Well the tests already show the ram has problems. And I'm suggesting to run memtest again on each stick for 8 passes to make sure that its the ram thats causing blue screens.
You could keep MSE while we troubleshoot the problems with your computer and get back norton when we're done.

Craig Beverley · Sep 11, 2012

so what your saying is i have to stay up for the next 3 - 5 days testing the RAM in each slot wondering which is the problem?

dont ask for much do you

koolkat77 · Sep 11, 2012

Sorry
Easy way out would be..if you have a neighbor or friend who could lend you matching ram sticks (compatible with your mobo) to check if you're having bsods with them.

Craig Beverley · Sep 11, 2012

well I'm buying some new RAM on the 31st because I'm building a new computer all together, if its the RAM that's the problem in this one i get get another set and sell this on that's all I'm curious about

but i don't have any extra RAM at this moment in time. im really not bothered if i have to spend about 3 days on this, it'll give me something to do

koolkat77 · Sep 11, 2012

Sure, take your time and let us know.

Craig Beverley · Sep 11, 2012

Okay thanks for the help btw

on a side note though are you wanting the photos of each error like i did last time or are you just wanting the final photo of when it actually reaches the 8th pass? just as a heads up thats all

koolkat77 · Sep 11, 2012

No I don't need the pictures. I just need to know you're getting lot of errors lol

Craig Beverley · Sep 11, 2012

right thats good then, it means i dont have to sit watching the screen for hours :L ill get started now and ill give you the first result when it's done

koolkat77 · Sep 11, 2012

Okai, waiting for them.

Craig Beverley · Sep 12, 2012

Right after about 12 hours worth of waiting i finally have the photos, sorry this took so long i had to work around trying all the slots with different memory, from the photos what i can actually gather is that the second slot for RAM in my MB is working fine whereas the others are faulty perhaps? I'm also a little concerned about the RAM speeds changing from 533MHz to 200MHz, could the MB not be picking up the right speed for the RAM or is the RAM faulty in the sense that its not pushing as much out as it should be doing? i didnt do many passes on the 3/4 slot because i didnt have enough time before i went to work, perhaps you could shine a light on what the fault could be maybe?

koolkat77 · Sep 12, 2012

Do you have a friend or neighbor you can borrow ram sticks from?
This way you can make sure your ram is the problem and nothing else on your motherboard.

Craig Beverley · Sep 13, 2012

im not sure ill have to ask one of my mates but i don't know when he'll get back to me, if any results come up about getting new RAM ill post on here if i can get any or not

koolkat77 · Sep 13, 2012

Take as much as time as needed.
Post whenever you can.

Craig Beverley · Sep 19, 2012

Just as a quick side note while i'm waiting for the RAM to come, what are the 2 error codes normally caused by? 0x0000003b & 0x00000024? because it seems im getting alot mroe 0x00000024 codes now? which i think is HDD?

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