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Windows 7: Many different BSOD's when gaming or watching videos

11 Dec 2012   #141
Flying Dude

Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

Hey!
Sorry for the delay in my response, I was asleep, then at work but I just read the posts now and my RAM is indeed in slots 2 and 4, the RAM itself is:

Mushkin Enhanced Slimline Stiletto 8 GB (2x4GB)
DDR3 - 1333 9-9-9-24 Dual

I have not tried booting with one stick just yet actually, I will try that now!

I am currently trying to get my computer to stay booted up long enough for me to take that screenshot so I will post that as soon as I get the chance. I'm not sure what XMP is unfortunately but I will look it up and let you know.

Voltages:
CPU Core Voltage: 1.060 V (was hovering between 1.055 I think and 1.060 V)
CPU I/O Voltage: 1.074 V (was switching between 1.066 and 1.074 V)
DRAM Voltage: 1.502 V
GPU Voltage 0.016 V


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11 Dec 2012   #142
Flying Dude

Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

Alright here they are after fighting through some BSODs!
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12 Dec 2012   #143
Dave76

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Ult x64 - SP1/ Windows 8 Pro x64
 
 

Have you tried to boot your system with one RAM card?

Was your system at idle when you took the snips?
Is EIST enabled?
Your CPU voltage is low for 3.8GHz.
Re-set your BIOS to Optimized Defaults.
Have you overclocked anything?

There are two newer BIOS versions, both state 'Improved memory compatibility'.
You should consider updating to version 2.7.
If you have not updated BIOS before, let us know before you start, a failed update can brick your board.
MSI Z77A-G45 Download- BIOS

XMP is a setting in BIOS that changes your RAM settings to a pre-set value.
Your SPD tabs don't have an XMP option in the Timings Table, this indicates it's AMD RAM.
It can sometimes be adjusted to work in an Intel system, the best solution would be to get some Intel RAM.

If you want to try and get it stable, you can adjust the RAM voltages.
CPU I/O Voltage: 1.150 V
DRAM Voltage: 1.550 V

Run memtest86+ for 7 full passes, with both RAM cards installed.
Best to run overnight as depending on the amount of RAM you have may take several hours.
If you get any errors you can stop the test.
RAM - Test with Memtest86+
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12 Dec 2012   #144
Flying Dude

Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

I'm booting it back up as we speak though I'm sure it will give me another BSOD again, assuming I can even get it booted up... it will boot in safe mode but I can't get it to run normally, it always wants to run this disk check and whether I cancel it or not, it just gets to a black screen with my cursor and goes no where from there until I hard boot it.

My system was basically idling when I took those snaps yes, and I have not overclocked anything. How would I go about resetting to the optimized BIOS defaults? I can update the BIOS first I guess and go from there, I have never changed any of the voltages.

I can actually use an MSI utility to flash update the BIOS so I'll do that as it's probably safer, though the fact that my computer will seemingly give me a BSOD whenever the hell it wants, I'm worried that something could go wrong while I'm updating. Unless, I use the MSI update utility through their 'Winki' OS and update through there.

As for the RAM, I am once again disappointed at the guy who sold me it.... another guy working at the store who told me it would work fine with what I have, how can I tell what RAM is good with Intel so I can find some?

Since I haven't changed any voltages before, I'm not exactly sure how to do it though I assume I can figure it out through the BIOS, do you think I should try and change the RAM voltages now? After I update the BIOS? Or even at all?


PS I have it running in safe mode with 1 stick of RAM in slot #2, been 10 mins without the regular BSOD
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13 Dec 2012   #145
Dave76

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Ult x64 - SP1/ Windows 8 Pro x64
 
 

Have you ever had a crash in Safe Mode?
This boots with only Windows drivers, so this would indicate you have a dodgy third party driver.

If your system is stable in Safe Mode, it should be ok to flash the BIOS from a USB/CD as it will run it's own program, not in windows.
I don't recommend any internet based BIOS flashing, it's generally accepted that a non-windows, USB type of upgrade is the safest.
When you flash your BIOS it will set everything to defaults, so no need to do it now.

If you update the BIOS, before changing any BIOS settings, test the system for stability. You can also run memtest86+ again or OCCT.
If you want to stress the system you can run OCCT.
OCCT stability checking tool
Run the CPU:OCCT test for at least 30 minutes, be sure to monitor your CPU and GPU temps.
Set the time before you start.
When its done, pass or fail, it will make some graphs. Post these here as they are useful for analyses.

Check the RAM manufacturers site, most have a utility, enter motherboard etc., and it will give you the RAM they recommend.
Try to stay away from any RAM that says it's for Intel and AMD, these usually have more problems then RAM specifically for Intel systems.
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13 Dec 2012   #146
Flying Dude

Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

Hmm alright, looks like I have some more shopping around to do...

And I have had many BSODs in safe mode, but only since it started acting up like this. With the one stick of RAM it actually hasn't crashed into safe mode and it's been running this entire time so it seems stable with one stick for now.

I have used the MSI utility before and it was fine but I can try and use a different utility with a USB if you say so, I'm going to check that site again and try to do so now, I'll post back as soon as I can
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13 Dec 2012   #147
Dave76

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Ult x64 - SP1/ Windows 8 Pro x64
 
 

Not a good idea to update BIOS on an unstable system, you know uncle Murphy.

Test your system in safe mode with one RAM card for a while, if it crashes, get the RAM first.
You can run OCCT in safe mode to see if it is going to be stable.
If you want to stress the system you can run OCCT.
OCCT stability checking tool
Run the CPU:OCCT test for at least 1 hour, 2 is better, be sure to monitor your CPU and GPU temps.
Set the time before you start.
When its done, pass or fail, it will make some graphs. Post these here as they are useful for analyses.
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13 Dec 2012   #148
Flying Dude

Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

oh noes... I thought in your last post you wanting me to run the stability test after updating the BIOS... cause that's definitely what I started trying to do and this is definitely what I have been looking at for the passed 20 minutes:

and I know I know I knoooow, I used the MSI liveupdate tool through the 'Winki' OS....
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13 Dec 2012   #149
Dave76

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Ult x64 - SP1/ Windows 8 Pro x64
 
 

I was asking about your system stability, never a good idea to try to flash BIOS on an unstable system.
From the MSI Forum, they all suggest to delete 'Winki', it's known to cause a lot of problems.
All motherboard sites strongly recommend to never use a internet method to update BIOS. Best is the USB memory stick flash system, no Windows OS running.

Best if you post in the MSI Forum, they will know how to get your BIOS working, if possible.

MSI Intel Core-iX series boards
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13 Dec 2012   #150
Flying Dude

Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

hmm it's still at this screen, pretty sure this actually happened last time and after a while I just shut off my computer then turned it on again... I think I'm gonna try that and see what happens...

And if it does work fine then I will definitely never try that stupid utility again and try the M-Flash method, after making sure the computer is more stable of course and running that stability tester that was posted
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