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Windows 7: Mem Management,Page fault BSODS + Memtest Errors

11 Oct 2012   #1
magepker

windows 7 home x64
 
 
Mem Management,Page fault BSODS + Memtest Errors

Hi everyone i was told to come here from tomshardware to have some help looking into my minidumps... heres a link to the thread to see what's been done; Link

Heres the situation; Running a Homebuilt PC, with 8gb (2x 4gb) ram sticks; Crucial Ballistix sport 4GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) Desktop Memory Model BLS4G3D1339DS1S00. Mobo is msi g45 870. (Not until recently did i find out that this kit that was sold to me from microcenter isn't actually a kit, it's just 2 separate 4gb sticks slapped together and called a kit, not sure that matters)

Got my first BSOD a month or two ago, ignored it, but then it started to happen maybe 2-3 times a day and finally got fed up and seeked help, i looked around and saw that it may be 3 things; Driver issue, Bad ram, Voltage issue.

So, i updated all my drivers, still get the BSODs, i ran memtest on the sticks individually on all the DIMMs and the passed, but when running memtest together i get errors, so to me it seems its something else probably something with compatibility...

What i've tried so far to remedy the situation is increasing the DIMM and CPU-NB voltage by .05 twice, first time i got a BSOD within the first hour, 2nd time it took 6 days for the next BSOD.

any help is appreciated thanks. btw, im watching this thread like a hawk so i'll reply very quickly!

dumps are attached, thanks again.


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12 Oct 2012   #2
magepker

windows 7 home x64
 
 

heres a pic of my cpu-z spd tab i forgot to mention i've run prime95 and aida64 bench tests and didnt get any bsods or anything....

and i've also run the basics like system scans and chkdsks...
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13 Oct 2012   #3
magepker

windows 7 home x64
 
 

alright.... so. more information i guess, ran driver verifier for over 24hours and no BSOD's.... any help is appreciated....
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13 Oct 2012   #4
Arc

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Microsoft Windows 10 Pro Insider Preview 64-bit
 
 

Hello magepker.

STOP 0x00000050: PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA
Usual causes: Defective hardware (particularly memory - but not just RAM), Faulty system service, Antivirus, Device driver, NTFS corruption, BIOS (Source: Carrona.org)

Let us check those one by one:

1, BIOS
: Your BIOS is not very old.
Code:
BIOS Version/Date    American Megatrends Inc. V10.8, 3/3/2011
Still you may try to have an update.

2, NTFS:
RRun Disc Check.
  1. Update your SSD's firmrare.
  2. Reseat the sata and power.
  3. Run chkdsk /f/r, following the option two of the tutorial Disk Check
  4. Seatool for dos: SeaTools | Seagate download
    Burn it in a blank cd. boot from the CD, click on "Accept", wait for it to finish detecting the drives, then in the upper left corner select "Basic Tests", then select "Long Test" and let it run.
3, Device Driver:
We use Driver verifier here, as you are saying that you have tried, dropping it for now.

4, Antivirus:
Dont you use anything other than MBAM? Use Microsoft Security Essentials - Free Antivirus for Windows

5, Faulty system service:
  • Uninstall Alcohol120%. It uses a driver called stpd.sys, which is a regular cause of BSODs
  • Uninstall the MSI Stuff, too.
6, Defective hardware: Take these tests:
Let us know the results.
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13 Oct 2012   #5
magepker

windows 7 home x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Arc View Post
Hello magepker.
service, Antivirus, Device driver, NTFS corruption, BIOS (Source:
STOP 0x00000050: PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA
Usual causes: Defective hardware (particularly memory - but not just RAM), Faulty system Carrona.org)

Let us check those one by one:

1, BIOS
: Your BIOS is not very old.
Code:
BIOS Version/Date    American Megatrends Inc. V10.8, 3/3/2011
Still you may try to have an update.

2, NTFS:
RRun Disc Check.
  1. Update your SSD's firmrare.
  2. Reseat the sata and power.
  3. Run chkdsk /f/r, following the option two of the tutorial Disk Check
  4. Seatool for dos: SeaTools | Seagate download
    Burn it in a blank cd. boot from the CD, click on "Accept", wait for it to finish detecting the drives, then in the upper left corner select "Basic Tests", then select "Long Test" and let it run.
3, Device Driver:
We use Driver verifier here, as you are saying that you have tried, dropping it for now.

4, Antivirus:
Dont you use anything other than MBAM? Use Microsoft Security Essentials - Free Antivirus for Windows

5, Faulty system service:
  • Uninstall Alcohol120%. It uses a driver called stpd.sys, which is a regular cause of BSODs
  • Uninstall the MSI Stuff, too.
6, Defective hardware: Take these tests:
Let us know the results.
1. i looked on the msi website and thats the latest update that i see.

2. i have a WDC HDD can i still run that seagate test? running chkdsk on next boot.

4. i already have MSE installed just not active right now.

5. i uninstalled 120%, but the only MSI things i have is live update according to add/remove so i removed that also.

6. as i stated before i ran memtest on the sticks individually on each dimm for atleast 4 passes so a total of 16 passes per stick with no errors but when on dual channel i get errors within the first 2 passes..

ill run the furmark test next, how long should i run it for? and how long should i run seatools for or is it a set time already?

thanks for the reply.


edit: ran the furmark test for 10minutes, no artifacts but i stopped it because the temperature stopped rising at around 64C and the post you pointed me to stated to stop it if the temperature levels out.

Rebooting now to run chkdsk and will run seatools after.
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13 Oct 2012   #6
magepker

windows 7 home x64
 
 

heres the chkdsk results;

Checking file system on C:
The type of the file system is NTFS.

A disk check has been scheduled.
Windows will now check the disk.

CHKDSK is verifying files (stage 1 of 5)...
189184 file records processed. File verification completed.
646 large file records processed. 0 bad file records processed. 12 EA records processed. 75 reparse records processed. CHKDSK is verifying indexes (stage 2 of 5)...
244870 index entries processed. Index verification completed.
0 unindexed files scanned. 0 unindexed files recovered. CHKDSK is verifying security descriptors (stage 3 of 5)...
189184 file SDs/SIDs processed. Cleaning up 45 unused index entries from index $SII of file 0x9.
Cleaning up 45 unused index entries from index $SDH of file 0x9.
Cleaning up 45 unused security descriptors.
Security descriptor verification completed.
27844 data files processed. CHKDSK is verifying Usn Journal...
37256504 USN bytes processed. Usn Journal verification completed.
CHKDSK is verifying file data (stage 4 of 5)...
189168 files processed. File data verification completed.
CHKDSK is verifying free space (stage 5 of 5)...
45379799 free clusters processed. Free space verification is complete.
Windows has checked the file system and found no problems.

488282111 KB total disk space.
306374656 KB in 108961 files.
75916 KB in 27845 indexes.
0 KB in bad sectors.
312343 KB in use by the system.
65536 KB occupied by the log file.
181519196 KB available on disk.

4096 bytes in each allocation unit.
122070527 total allocation units on disk.
45379799 allocation units available on disk.

Internal Info:
00 e3 02 00 67 16 02 00 b2 d7 03 00 00 00 00 00 ....g...........
04 03 00 00 4b 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ....K...........
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................

Windows has finished checking your disk.
Please wait while your computer restarts.


took quite a while. gonna run seatools now.
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13 Oct 2012   #7
Arc

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Microsoft Windows 10 Pro Insider Preview 64-bit
 
 

Disc errors, if there is any, will be rectified in these processes. But, I am guessing that the ram modules may be mismatch. I have asked a hardware expert to have a look. Let us see.
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13 Oct 2012   #8
magepker

windows 7 home x64
 
 

back from the seatools test, passed long test and short dst test. nothing much else to do but wait and see what the expert says....

just an FYI, the cpu-z screen shows that i have all 4 sticks in but while running these tests i only had the 2 4gb sticks in... the 4gb sticks are the ones that are in when i have BSOD's if i have just the 2gb sticks in i never have a BSOD...

so just by that i think its the ram sticks but they pass memtest individually.....
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13 Oct 2012   #9
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

Just a thought. Check and make sure your ram serial numbers and volts match. Also make sure you have them in the proper ram slots as per the motherboard manual. Try running the system on one stick of ram installed as per motherboard manual. I can not over state motherboard manual. Sometimes slots are not in the order one would think they would be.
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13 Oct 2012   #10
magepker

windows 7 home x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Layback Bear View Post
Just a thought. Check and make sure your ram serial numbers and volts match. Also make sure you have them in the proper ram slots as per the motherboard manual. Try running the system on one stick of ram installed as per motherboard manual.
according to cpu-z and the stickers on the ram sticks themselves they're a pair.(same part number different serial numbers) I bought the "kit" at microcenter, but when i looked up the part numbers they're single sticks sold separately so i guess microcenter just took 2 single sticks put them in the same box and called it a kit...volt says 1.5v.

The issue only occurs when running these 2 sticks in dual channel, running the system with just 1 of the sticks works fine and dont get any bsods or memtest errors.
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